Feel free to use this a megathread for the US/Israeli war on Iran.
I can’t help but shake my head at how the media is covering this. Footage of Iranian Americans celebrating in the streets? I understand their jubilation at an objectively horrible piece of shit getting killed, lord knows I’ll be dancing in the streets when Trump meets his fate, but that elation over finally ridding Iran of the ayatollah came at the cost of over 80 innocent children’s lives. To kill a guy who didn’t have long left to live anyway… those kids had their entire lives ahead of them.
Not to mention the white house repeating over and over again that this won’t be a other 20 year was like Iraq, but they haven’t specified their endgame. If their goal was regime change, they will ultimately fail without boots on the ground to enforce it, and that’s not going to be a walk on the park like Trump and Miller think. Khamenei’s second in command will just take over and business will resume as usual, or things may possibly get worse with someone less predictable in charge.
Horribly irresponsible to do this without congressional approval and without even bothering to make the sell to the American people. Iran is not just going to let this go - war is now inevitable.
Liberals truly believe Great Man Theory
It’s sort of a core part of their shield, if great man theory wasn’t true they’d have to reckon with the global structures of terror they support instead of just blaming putler and the orange man while screaming vote blue no matter who.
Results of the imperialist aggression:
An 86 year old dead
150 school children vaporized
Regime is still there
American bases in the zone turned to rubble
Strait of hormuz closed
Not dead, martyrized.
Will the americans ever tire of all this winning?
86 year old AND 2 subsequent generations of his bloodline - his daughter and his granddaughter
israelis and their obsession with blood feuds uh, it just came to me why they murdered them.
Khamenei was the main reason Iran did not develop nuclear weapons up to now. With him gone, that becomes a much more likely scenario.
How?
Khamenei issued a religieus ruling against developing nukes
But they were still enriching uranium covertly. How’s that?
First of all, they were enriching uranium openly, not covertly, with IAEE monitoring their every move. Unlike Israel which has undeclared and never inspected nuclear arsenal.
Second, enriching uranium has non-military uses like nuclear medicine (at which Iran is actually a global leader btw).
And third, well, it’s easier to get 90% enriched uranium from 60% than it is from zero, in case the ruling changes.
Because Iran wasn’t a dictatorship.
It had factions.
You know how Iran was always months away from nukes? It was. That was the hard liner faction who believed that only nukes would ensure Iran’s safety wanting to be able to quickly have one if the fatwa was removed.
Did you not know this? If not, you should stop watching/reading the new sources that didn’t tell you this widely available information. They’re not new sources but propaganda sources.
Because Iran wasn’t a dictatorship.
It had factions.Isn’t ayatollah the supreme leader?
Isn’t the president the executive branch?
Jesus Christ, do you have any critical thinking skills?
As far as I know, ayatollah is entitled to command all leaders of all branches.
That’s why he’s called the supreme leader.It’s not true?
Nuclear power?
Having enough 60% enriched uranium to make a thermonuclear bomb if they change the ruling ≠ weaponizing their nuclear program
Hmm yes I think I will remove the respected leader that opposed Iran having a nuclear weapons program. 👀
That was widely expected to die soon of natural causes anyway
In a society that reveres martyrdom above all else 🤔
I feel like its a goal of the MIC as it gives them a reason to exist. Use violence, terror, kill civilians to create more enemies and justify more military spending.
Not a good long term strategy, but the orphan crushing machine still has people willing to operate it.
The US generally benefits from depopulating & undeveloping resource rich or strategically marginal areas for coercion, keeping costs down, denial purposes, or just to keeping value chains stable, but this risks blowing up the petrodollar system. I think they might actually be completely insane. What did WarClaude™ tell them?
W.O.C.R. War Operation Claude Response
You forgot the last bit, when we’ve fucked the whole world up escape to bunker.
profit. it’s always about profit.
They also bombed and killed several members of his family, including his daughter, granddaughter, and son in law.
Israel going unchallenged in the region will be the worst possible outcome if Iran falls.
They actually let him stay in his house? Did they want him as a martyr or something?
Rest in peace. May the US Empire and its dogs crumble.
He’s probably resting in pieces, not peace.
Go back to reddit
Show some respect you rabid Westerner dog with no value for anything. Your dirty country will be soon paying the cost, make no mistake.
One can only hope.
Whelp.
He was 86. I don’t know to what extent he was still in charge. It may have been anywhere from still fully in charge to just a figurehead.
So the US has taken action against two heads of state in two months, and the rest of the world is not at all worried?
I mean, if fair is fair, this should be a free-for-all, so I’d be all for Netanyahu, Bbukele and Putin going up in smoke next.
They are worried, but most of them are maintaining tenuous comprador regimes where their ruling classes’ finances are firmly linked to the imperial core
Trump’s safe in your book?
His owners will get rid of him when he is no longer useful. At the moment he is the clown face emoji they all sign themselves off with
He has to at least answer for his pedophilia before he goes up in smoke. And besides, forget the smoke, I want to see him under the guillotine, his head framed as an example of What Not To Do.
The first thing to die in war is the truth.
Truth and more than 80 elementary school girls.
Of course, but it wouldn’t make sense to lie about this, either way he was a 86 year old, and I’m not going to pretend that the Iranian regime was a paragon of freedom.
That regime has been practicing for this very day for DECADES. They have plans B, C, D, E, F, and G on the books.
In this case, truth primarily in the form of marriage advice. Have you seen his actual posts?
Huh what mine?
No I mean the cleric
Well war over now right? Trump said the goal was regime change. We’ll mission accomplished. Right?
In the model of Venezuela as long as the actual top leader isn’t in charge anymore, it’s regime change.
It’s a “win” & a “peace”.
The regime is not one person not to say that trump would not find more excuses if the regime really fall
If it is in Venezuela why not Iran?
what do you mean. Venezuela regime is still in place
Exactly, so what would be different about Iran is what I mean
because Iran is the biggest threat to Israel colonial ambition and they do not want another 1979
They are not still in place, they buckled and gave America huge concessions that will not serve them long term.
If Iran’s new leadership says “we won’t attack Israel again, we’ll stop developing weapons to protect ourselves and will only purchase American weapons from now on” that’s when you know the regime changed.
Iran is like syria not Venezuela. If the regime ever change they will destroy all what is left of the Iranian military capability, arms more iranians factions to fight other factions and occupy part of Iran
Yes, I agree totally. I wasn’t saying that’s likely to happen in Iran, I was simply pointing out that Venezuela did have a regime change, a silent coup. The vice president publicly took over and released political prisoners and started cooperating with the CIA and with the US on Venezuela’s energy.
Americans love bravado. This will be millions of Republican votes.
Watch them lose their fucking minds when the price of gas goes up.
Gas is expensive. Life is cheap.
Wait for the market to open
