Here we go again…
As an outsider it seems absolutely weird that the US as a country seems to have accepted people getting shot by other regular people daily as normal.
Oprah Winfrey once said, everybody gets a gun, you get a gun, you get a gun, we all get a gun.
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My kids’ school recently had an active shooter drill like we used to do fire drills when I was a kid. They said they all had hiding spots to go to and they thought it was pretty scary. They’re in elementary school. It’s definitely not normal that instead of doing something about the guns we have to teach kids to hide from gunmen because that’s just a legit possibility now.
My friend’s daughter is in elementary school and an active shooter came into the school. Nobody died, but later he bought her a bulletproof backpack designed for AR-15 rounds (223). But the backpack was so heavy she couldn’t carry books in it. So instead he opted for handgun rounds protection, which isn’t ideal but it’s something.
As an American, I think the moment I said “which one” when asked if I had heard about the mass shooting in wherever it was I can’t even remember now, that was when I realized how fucked our gun policies are.
Solidarity is not part of the common sense of the people of US.
The guys was committed for two weeks and had threatened to shoot up a national guard base. They had the information to act on and take away his guns and they didn’t because they didn’t need to. This is even more fucked because it was probably avoidable.
There are no red flag laws in Maine. There was no legal way to take his guns even if they thought that was necessary. Also, the christofacist supreme court is set to strike down laws that prevent people convicted domestic violence from owning guns, which will chip away at the legality of red flag laws everywhere. Happy Thursday everyone!
Almost all mass shootings were avoidable if that government really cared about solving this problem
They do care, just not as much as they care about those sweet NRA and Colt checks 😩
This thing doesn’t go past 0 very often
Fuck Reagan. He created this shithole of a situation and ruined this country. I’m happy he died of Alzheimers and simply pray he was terrified and miserable in the last moments of his life.
Is it me or the headline is worded strangely?
I think it might be the word “named” instead of “identified.” That and the two “as”
appositive phrasesprepositional phrases in a row.Right, it makes sense to me now. The double “as” was definitely confusing, but “identified” instead of “named” immediately made the sentence clear. Thanks.
It’s only weird when you don’t know anybody called “US army reservist” but it’s a fairly common name around here
-US Coast Guard war criminal
yeah its very weird
“as the death toll reaches 22 people, the suspect was found out to be a US army reservist”
They probably want to front load the headline with the most salient development, namely the identity of the shooter.
It’s a reference to this Onion article that gets updated with a new date and location every time this happens.
The Onion didn’t get theirs listed until 8 hours after OP though, which is why I’m assuming they just didn’t link the article.
I was actually refering to the headline in the picture but yeah this is an interesting piece of information too, I know the post’s title was sarcastic but didn’t know it was such a thoughtful joke haha
It’s because it’s an update to ongoing reporting
Excerpt from the US version of the Prayer of the Lord: “… and give us today our daily
breadmass shooting …”My Aunt and Uncle live there. I heard the news at around 11pm. Called her up to make sure they were ok. They are scared in there home with doors locked.
But “facts don’t care about your feelings” or something like that…
Well, whoda thunk that shit, eh?
Who could have guessed a schizophrenic with unfettered access to high-powered firearms and a massive dose of right-wing idiocy would cause such things as a mass shooting and a night of terror?
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It was in the news in the UK a few years ago that a doctor visited the US to see some of his family that lived there, and while he was asleep in bed a stray bullet hit him and he died. Obviously I’m sure these things are unlikely but it’s still kind of scary. That and I find the idea of walking around and having deranged psychos all around me potentially having a gun and them being able to pull it out and end my life at any moment kind of… unpleasant.
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Okay I guess. I personally like just being able to live my life without almost getting shot every couple of hours. I have a friend who basically sounds exactly like you and lives in Texas, he also told me that he hears gunshots around him like multiple times a day. Forgive me but that doesn’t sound particularly appealing.
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Isn’t having a crazy powerful military enough? The Spanish and French aren’t about to set fires in the US anymore.
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As disturbing as these mass shootings are, they’re still very rare. The vast majority of Americans will never be in a mass shooting, let alone tourists who only visit occasionally.
It’s telling that most American police officers go their entire career without shooting their guns except at the firing range.
But, it is a sign of US dysfunction that the problem is so obvious but there’s zero chance of the problem being solved any time soon.
I mean, not that rare. I remember back in college I knew 5 different people who were in a mass school shooting as a kid - all from different states.
Just this week there have been 5 mass shootings.
So, you know some people who were in a mass shooting, but they lived. If they know some people who died in a mass shooting that’s two degrees of separation between you and a mass shooting death.
As for the mass shootings this week, they include a convenience store robbery, something that seems to be a murder-suicide where someone killed their family, a shootout over a stolen car, shots at a house party. And, in only 2 of those cases (the 5 dead in a house, and the rampage in Maine) were more than 1 person killed. These all technically qualify as mass shootings, but the rampage in Maine is the only kind we really think of as being a typical mass shooting.
It’s far too many. There’s no question about that. It’s also absurd how much more frequent it is in the US compared to other places. On the other hand, the US has a population of 330 million people. So, while the odds of dying in a mass shooting are higher in the US than any other developed country in the world, it’s hardly a warzone. The vast majority of people in the US will not be in a mass shooting ever. Most people will never be shot in their lives. And tourists shouldn’t avoid the US out of a fear of being involved in a mass shooting. Yes, it’s much more likely in the US than in say Japan. But, the overall odds are low.
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There are still a lot of gun homocides. Mass shootings are only part of the story.
A lot compared to other countries, but not so many that a tourist would have to worry about it, especially if they stick to touristey areas.
If someone decided to go into certain neighbourhoods in certain cities, especially while looking like a tourist, they could get in trouble. But, not visiting the US because you’re afraid of getting shot is like not being willing to swim anywhere in the Atlantic ocean because you’re afraid of being bitten by a shark. In both cases, the danger is minimal unless you ignore the warning signs.
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I think that depends where you go. I live in BC but go to Washington all the time and it feels pretty much just as safe.
Go anyway, the western US is beautiful.
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Eh, it’s safer now than it was 30 years ago, your odds of actually running into anyone with a gun are extremely low.
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I love how people are mad that you’re right. The only technicality I’d add is that concealed carry is a thing, so you likely walk past people carrying without knowing it, but that’s the whole point of concealed carry in the first place.
Mass shooting events like this are a social problem that ends up being very complex when you start to actually try and figure out why they happen and how to prevent them. There is no short answer, but Angry White Men by Michael Kimmel is a good place to start.
This timeline is a bad one. We need father time to make the old in power fade away so we can attempt to fix what the worst generation has broken.
This motherfucker is slowly making his way toward my home and children. Last sighting is 35 min away or so.
I don’t have a gun and I regret that choice right now. I wouldn’t wish this feeling of helplessness and terror on anyone.
This is always a mental health issue at its core.
Humor me and pick up a copy of Susan Faludis book “stiffed”
This is the 90s all over again. Fuck.
Where was this?
Lewiston Maine. The (formerly) safest state in the union.
Dudes Twitter likes were Trump Jr, tucker Carlson and all kinds of other MAGAt fodder. Also one of two retweets mentioned mass murder.
You don’t need a gun. Just call the police. They’ll take care of you.
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You think the police will come and take care of you because you feel scared when there’s an active shooter on the loose?
Ridiculous.
Oh, I don’t. I’ll protect myself. Where I live the police are about fifteen minutes away. Ain’t nobody got time for that.
Yup. I used to be a vol firefighter. If your response time for any emergency service is under 5min you’re very lucky. But often even that isn’t enough. You need the tools and skills to do what you can until help arrives. Fire prevention, medical and self/fam defense. Until they get there it is up to you, and many people don’t realize that.
This is some obvious pro gun propaganda.
Honestly I can’t imagine these are a real person’s thoughts.
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The United States of America is the best/easiest place in the world to own guns. It’s the only place you can get a gun at a convenience store. In fact, in most states, a background check isn’t required unless you’re buying from a federally licensed firearm dealer.
The above is a copypaste, but it gets the point across perfectly. It’s vey easy to get a gun in the USA, unlike in many other countries.
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We had two mass shootings in the UK and banned guns, no mass shootings since. Same in NZ and Australia.
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Says the fuckwit who just spewed this:
Mass shootings happen everywhere. Most mass shootings happen with illegal firearms, and finally, tons of saves happen because good people own firearms.
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Cool story, crypto-bro. Lemme guess, you fancy yourself a real “alpha-male” too, right?
I do hope you face exactly what they faced, but without guns. Maybe when your wife or sister gets raped in front of you, you’ll learn why sticking a gun up your butt is a good idea.
Mm k there psycho, I hope violence befalls you and yours as well.
I never met anyone carrying a gun who wasn’t a cop or a licensed hunter over here in europe and it’s great.
The horrorfreakshow in your head must be a huge burden
UK has had 3 mass shootings in the 2020s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2020s_mass_shootings_in_the_United_Kingdom
US had 620 just in 2020 alone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2020
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Don’t hurt your back carrying that goalpost, you might have to start accepting that you’re wrong if you can’t move it around anymore!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
If you’re going to compare gun related homicides, the US has more than 20x as many as the UK (in 2017 and 2015 respectively)
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Why try to change the subject?
He has to. I made sure to include a source he probably agrees with: Fox News
And they deleted their comments
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No, it’s about guns specifically.
If Americans weren’t buying them, they wouldn’t be coming here.
The same concept applies for illegal immigrants, too. If republicans weren’t hiring them, they wouldn’t be crossing the border.
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I may or may not know where to get illegal firearms, but would’ve done something very drastic ages ago already if I could simply go get a gun within 3 days legally.
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No because I can’t get a gun in a grocery store within 3 days.
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Only because the friends that would get me to an illegal one know my mental health well enough to not give it to me. No grocery store background check would find any of that.
What’s funny is that when you talk about illegal firearms in other countries, they must likely came from the USA (or in Canada’s case, they definitely came from there).
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/in-fighting-gun-crime-canada-has-an-american-problem-1.6004198
https://globalnews.ca/news/8845131/ontario-crime-guns-new-data-top-us-source-states/
And it goes on and on.
Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, big boy.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/12/world/europe/handguns-smuggling-murder-us-uk.html
So far you don’t seem to be too good at providing sources yourself…
Why argue and say stupid things when there are statistics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate?wprov=sfla1
Looks like gun violence isn’t in fact happening everywhere.
America has had 562 mass shootings this year…