It doesn’t matter how many people or what kind of people moved from Reddit. I was there 14 years (Digg 4.0 exile here). They have a new group of people now. My wife and kids now use Reddit, but it’s not the same type of user interaction I experienced there in the past. It’s very much a mix of scrolling through TikTok videos and sparse reading of comments on an /r/askreddit thread. It’s casual browsing and video content. There are still some holdouts, which I think mostly contribute to what’s left of the comment section, but that’s it. It sucks, because I miss the discussions there. Lemmy kind of scratches that itch, but the content is slow to come in, and the comments so few. I’m doing my part, and I am much more active here than I ever was on Reddit.
IMO the quality of discussion here is about the same on reddit. Which is to say, not very good, or very deep. It’s shallow observations, memes, and one liner gut reactions to headlines. People have been conditioned over the past decade to not engage with long replies or complex thoughts. It might have to do with social media becoming more or less defined by people engaging with it on mobile devices, which don’t really enable that sort of engagement. But it might also be people genuinely not giving a shit anymore and only wanting that minor degree of superficial interaction.
I get better responses here on Lemmy with my longer replies, which is great. Reddit feels overall dumber now where people will try and argue that your comment with sources is somehow less compelling than someone else’s sourceless opinion (true story).
I’m having far better interactions on Lemmy.
My favorite thing about Lemmy is that you can comment on an article that’s several hours old and get responses. Reddit was so big that if you didn’t comment on major articles within a couple minutes of being posted, your comment would get buried under a thousand other comments and would never be seen. Commenting became a game of which top level comment you could possibly sneak your comment as a response to, even if it wasn’t really a “response” to what the person had said, just to get your comment seen and have a chance at sparking a discussion.
I’ve had the same experiences actually. It’s also a lot more common (at least from what I’ve experienced) to find people being more composed here even in the face of some divisive or provocative content.
Honestly, the worst thing about Lemmy is Lemmy users thinking it’s better than Reddit simply by the virtue of it not being Reddit.
The platform? Yes, absolutely, a much better solution with built in checks and balances to stop one greedy company eating everyone’s lunch.
The content? It’s identical! (Bar a few cosplay communists that stir up drama occasionally). And some things are significantly worse like the quality of content curation and moderation.
For every person writing an “ugh you must be a Redditor”/“I thought I left this behind on Reddit” type comment,I bet there are many more people rolling their eyes and at least a few of them that end up abandoning the platform entirely.
I think it has a lot to do with longer messages seeming “elitist” in addition to the tendency of trolls to find one phrase they don’t like and derail the entire topic over it. You write 3 paragraphs, most don’t read past the first sentence and vote based on that, and some troll starts nitpicking your use of “us” vs “we” instead of the actual topic. Over time you see putting the effort into a comment as pointless or outright adversarial, and you stop. It’s the trolls and the low effort people that make having quality conversations frustrating. Not trying to gatekeep, but I firmly believe that once a site becomes popular enough that all the “Lowest Common Denominators” join, quality drops. The signal to noise ratio just becomes too much. Popularity is a death sentence on the Internet.
Yeah I’ve seen some pretty benign comments get downvoted to hell here on Lemmy if they’re even just a tiny bit out of line from the consensus which is no better than Reddit.
Have you been on reddit recently? The average discussion on Lemmy may not be super deep, but the comment sections of larger reddit threads have become downright painful to read. It honestly feels like every negative cliché about reddit has been dialed up to eleven.
I was on reddit a couple times past couple of days for some specific purposes (like looking up Minecraft seeds). Checked the front page and stuff out of curiosity and I genuinely don’t know if the content was already as bad when I left or if Lemmy just gave me new standards or something, but Jesus Christ. It’s all just ragebait and TikTok reposts, even though everyone on reddit always claims to hate TikTok. It’s like if you collected all the lowest tier posts from every other site and then gathered them in one.
Same thing for me here, so much rage bait. I was asking a specific question on Google and a reddit post had a very good answer, curiosity sent me to r/all and it is so clearly meant to get under your skin.
It’s all “TikTok” now. I see TikTok, YT Shorts, Reddit video clips, Facebook video clips, IG video clips, etc. They are all TikTok in my head, and I don’t care enough to check them each out to differentiate between them and change my mind. This must be what getting old feels like.
They all repost to each other anyway. Some creators will just post directly to several of them, but there’s also entire content factories designed around stealing other peoples creative works and reposting them on a different platform.
Ill never understand the appeal of short form video. I watch YT for episodic content ~10-20 mins or deep tutorials about some niche technical thing Im doing or interested in doing
Fellow Digg exile, previous Fark, previous Slashdot, etc.
I still go back to Reddit for several niche groups that just don’t have enough users to transition - would likely disappear if people moved elsewhere (Lemmy or Discord)
Yea I remember it went to shit around 2018 or somewhere there about. I had been hoping for a viable alternative for a while. I should thank Spez in retrospect.
I mean, it’s kind of always been shit, but it was “our” shit. Now it’s a different crowd, and their “shit”. I don’t want to deal with their “shit”, so I don’t really go there anymore and treat it like Ravenholm.
Wasn’t Digg 2.0 the time of the Great Exodus? Or has my memory of these arcane events become clouded throughout the eons of enshittification?
It was v4.
Reddit very much depends on the subreddits you subscribe to.
Browsing /r/askhistorians or /r/programming isn’t really the same experience as r/memes or whatever. Not logging in to reddit makes it way worse since you only see the popular low-effort threads instead of better niche content.
Right. And to my point, newer users are doing the latter.
Lenmy is brilliant as platform and concept, but the truth is it simply can’t compare to Reddit where there are 1000x more user and 100x more comments/activity.
Maybe I am part of that new group? I’m just here for the memes. Lemmy is amusement for me and a way to kill some time. If I want to have deep or meaningful discussions I’ll talk to people I actually know (and then I’ll also know I’m not wasting my time arguing with a troll). The “casual browsing” content is also lower quality here than on Reddit, but I can’t complain, because I don’t really contribute, I just lurk.
My search results keep wanting me to go to Reddit. I’m trying to avoid it, but it keeps calling.
I’m not scrolling there like I did before the “Spez killed the 3rd party app migration”. I miss the level of engagement and ease of finding communities. Lemmy is decent, but the post volume is lacking. If I scroll new now, and again 12 hours later, there’s not much new stuff before I see the stuff from last time.
I have a similar experience, only visiting reddit for stuff like tech problems and very niche communities. I had never willingly visited the reddit homepage since.
There are a lot of posts now on lemmy compared to before the reddit fiasco but is not like the activity on reddit. The good thing though is that it made me stop my habit of mindlessly scrolling through endless content.
yeah having switched to linux recently it’s pretty much impossible to go without reddit. sure, superuser and generally linux forums do have a bunch of answers, but a lot are on reddit as well.
I still find most Linux answers on SO.
It’s pretty rare that a search leads me to Reddit, though it does happen on rare occasion.
What distro(s) are you searching for that lead you to Reddit?
Too many top linux answers are gone now and i dont really find reddit very usefull for finding answers to linux problems anymore unless its a brand new problem with alot of people suddenly posting about it.
IDK, I just know I had to visit reddit quite a few times when googling linux stuff. maybe it’s because I’m still new and looking for relatively basic stuff
Naw fam, I’ve been using Linux for years and I still goto Reddit threads for problem solving. I’m not like a guru or anything but I’m not new. I’ll try other sources first but I have no problem going to Reddit second.
Try Kagi. I’m totally hooked. It’s a refreshing search experience and you can rank reddit as a lower level site so it can still come up, but less likely to be at the top of your search list all the time.
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Same, PoE reddit was my homepage basically. I deleted my account, hoped that the community would move over, but nope. Oh well, one less addiction for me. I think I might actually enjoy the game more without all the drama around it.
Lemmy will dethrone reddit once you are able to google a question and the Lemmy link is at the top as opposed to reddit
Reddit also had the ability to just type in my address bar “/r/obscurefandom” and be taken directly to the subreddit for it. Lemmy doesn’t have those smaller subs yet and you have to hunt for the right instance if it does.
Even TV shows that have been off air for a decade often have a thriving community. Merlin, the BBC show, has several posts per day. Similarly with Smallville. Lemmy’s communities are smaller and tend to be broken up across instances.
I feel like there needs to be instance aggregation for Lemmy to really work in the long run (and really this is probably true of the fediverse in general). Having to add communities across multiple instances, and not being able to browse them in a centralized way, really detracts from the experience. On Reddit, I subbed to the stuff I wanted and just lived off that feed. With Lemmy, I feel like I have to stay in unfiltered view to get anything of interest–the fragmented niche communities are just too limiting.
Add in people posting the same thing across the various “same community” on all the various instances for extra silliness.
Yes, Lemmy is Reddit with extra steps as long as you can’t click this /c/books And see, by default, every books community , on every server at once in a single place.
The Redditors who made it here, saw this and realized the fediverse promise, was just bait.
Reddit will have active subs for specific board games. The general board games magazine on Lemmy has 1 post a month.
So ya, if I want to read comments on the latest episode of Loki to see what things people picked up on that I missed Reddit is currently the only place to find that.
alternatively r/obscurefetish
I just started using lemmy today, so I definitely could be wrong. But doesn’t the website browse.feddit.de kind of do this for you already?
This illustrate the fatal flaw with Lemmy.
The fediverse is made pointless because now a community only exists on one server at a time, instead of on every server.
It is Reddit, with extra steps
Whelp, better get to asking questions… Someone ask me a question to an answer someone may want to search for
What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
African, or European?
Well I don’t know that
I’ll start with something wholesome:
What’s the best way to make someone smile?
Punch someone they hate.
Just punch Trump then. This will make a lot of people smile.
I’m the leftest leftist ever to left but had to downvote for such low effort
Apply your thumbs in an upward motion to the corners of their mouth. Use force if necessary
What’s Ligma?
Ligma baaawwllls lmao goddim
Oh nooooo ya gawt me😭
Why is my poop green?
Your poop is green because you consumed something with food coloring in it.
Is there anyway to control how high I want my android phone to charge? I would like to set it to 90%.
If you have root you may want to use something called ACC (Advanced Charging Controller). You can use its official app, ACCA, to install it. Very customizable.
Samsung phones have an option in the battery settings called “charge protection” and it makes your phone stop charging at 85%. Look through your battery settings to see if you have a similar option.
Not without rooting it or the manufacturer including a custom option for it, but if it has adaptive charging, you can set an alarm and it will charge the phone up to 80% and then wait to charge it the rest of the way to coincide with the alarm so that it isn’t at 100% for a long time.
I was so insulted when I realized I could never root my phone. Fuck Verizon!
Even then, Reddit has accumulated so much technical advice over the years, I hope I can still find archived posts this way, if ever it truly does crash and burn.
What’s stopping someone from just copying the reddit history and building that knowledge base as under the hood of Lemmy?
And Linux will dethrone windows.
I wish they were true but reality is that people will accept just about any and all abuse and stay with the crap despite sometimes getting angry about it.
Which is never going to happen because you can’t click this /c/books
And fine an agglomeration of all /c/books on all lemmy servers Ina single location.
This cripples any network effect and any benefice of decentralization and federation
Bro, it’s so fucking frustrating that I need to be subbed to 5 different Android communities just to get my news.
I can’t sub to just one because I miss news if I do.
My only hope is that Boost brings multi-reddit support to Lemmy, so I can just click on “Android” and get the news from all 5 Android communities.
“multi Reddit” like feature do not fix the problem.
First, like on Reddit, less than 5% of users will use it as a non default feature which needs to be configured.
Second, even of those people who use the feature, they will have different sets of differently configured “multireddit”.
The end result is a fragmented audience that has no shared experience and never aglomerates to critical mass.
If you have 1725 /c/books communities, that does not make one cohesive books community. These people have nothing in common.
Practical end result, one books community on one Lemmy instance, is “the one big community” and almost every other gets 1 post per year on average, which is never seen by anyone.
For every big community, every once in a while, the moderation dictators sell out or otherwise piss off the community enough that it fragments. That works as well as the current transition from Reddit to Lemmy.
Each schism doesn’t create a new, better community, it creates a smaller, less active community at the expense of the larger one.
There needs to be a single point of agglomeration, which works by default for any community name.
And moderation needs to be something dive by every user and moderation needs to be a filter that you subscribe to.
Since lemmy instance are hit and miss. Some popular ones are already talking about shutting down or have shut down. I highly doubt lemmy will get there.
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I’m doing my part! insert starship troopers gif here idk im tech illiterate
Would you like to know more?
I would like to know if that little kid was really in the movie or was added later.
I definitely recall them being in that scene, but ive seen the gif so many times that it could be retroactively editing my shit
With the rate that Musk is destroying Twitter, Spez is surely going to have another grand fuckup soon.
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The only thing that keeps me going back to Reddit is extremely niche subreddits having no mass here. Honestly if the Nuzlocke subreddit had more activity, I’d probably never open Reddit
Yeah I still use reddit for football. Bluesky is getting better(still too little content), but mastodon was just full of spam for me.
Instead of complaining about why people stay on Reddit, perhaps you should focus more on improving Lemmy communities, so that people don’t feel a need to return.
While I do like it here, it is very quiet, even when it comes to popular subjects like football, pro wrestling, anime, etc - the sort of stuff that Reddit still excels at.
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That’s okay, we can change that! Be the person who posts and interacts with the community. :) the same thing happened on reddit once upon a time.
That doesn’t work, though. If I add posts and comments to, let’s say, a Brazilian Jiu-jitsu community on Lemmy, that’s just one more number. That isn’t going to improve.
Reddit had a huge boost from Digg, and even then, it was a different time when fewer numbers were fine, and people were more willing to engage in social media at lower numbers.
If Lemmy instances are to grow, that engagement needs to be directed. It needs popular communities to be highlighted, and once consistent interaction is there, growing communities need instance owners to direct traffic/engagement their way. That’s how subs like /r/soccer got off the ground, and it’s probably the only way it’ll happen on Lemmy.
Many of the subs I spent a lot of time posting on are completely dead, bar maybe a few people that contribute 90% of all posts and comments. Others simply don’t exist, and given that they were quite niche (local subs, anime subs) there’s absolutely no way that they’ll ever get noticed on Lemmy if something like pro wrestling has next to no posts/comments.
IMO, the only way this will improve is a combined effort from Lemmy instances to highlight great communities, and to drive people towards ones that are growing.
I personally have not seen very many Lemmy posts return on Google searches, if at all. It’s not apparent whether or not they are indexed at all, and I would imagine that’s a big vector for new user engagement.
What I miss are the gaming communities. There is no talk about games I play on Lemmy, just general gaming communities and I never browsed r/gaming either. Biggest let-down: PoE even has a dedicated Lemmy instance but it’s empty and abandoned.
There is just not enough demand because only a minor fraction of reddit users got hit by the 3rd-party app slaughter. The vast majority doesn’t care and still stayed on reddit. It was the expected outcome.
Hot take of the day: What doesn’t help with this is how fractured communities are throughout the instances. What I mean by this is if I subscribe to “World News” on lemmy.world, I won’t see the posts from the same type community on other instances, like “World News” on beehaw, in my subscriber feed unless I subscribe to them too (or someone crossposts). This adds an unnecessary level of micro-management and probably also drives people away from Lemmy. The biggest strength of Lemmy is so-to-speak also its biggest weakness.
Idk if that’s even a hot take. It’s something I’ve talked to several people about and honestly one of the reasons I don’t think lemmy will end up growing much past its current user base. Too much micromanaging when most people just want to see content that interests them.
Wow, is that last point true? I guess I misunderstood how federation worked big time. I thought by subscribing to something like “news”, I was supposed to receive all posts and comments to those posts from all whitelisted instances like some kind of syndication. Is that not actually how it works?
I only get the posts from communities I am directly subscribed with. So if there is something like syndication, it does not work for me.
Oh nooo
I’m totally not on Reddit.
Cool, I got my own meme now! ^^
hmmmm…
Ditto. I also jumped ship and have not gone back. I barely even click on any of the links here to go back to old reddit
Obviously
Also you are totally not spez!
I deleted my Reddit account but there are some subs I greatly miss. Shame the majority of their members didn’t move over to Lemmy due to lack of care.
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it really shows the percentage of selfish/spineless assholes on social medial.
At the very least if gave us a good way to filter them off our threads I guess.
I’ll be honest, I am still browsing Reddit, though in a more limited fashion. I deleted all my submissions and comments and refuse to post or comment, no matter how strong the urge to correct misinformation regarding topics I am interested in is. Communities for those topics are generally non-existent, got created and withered within a month of the 3rd-Party-Exodus, or in the case of /r/leagueoflegends and its local mirrors, are generally carried by the eSport scene and there is generally no decent discussion to be had outside of that. And I don’t even know if one of the League communities here even does post-match threads.
I noticed a massive drop of quality after the api changes (though it’s been declining for a couple years now) and after a while I just realized there is no point, so I mostly only kept subreddits related to my country. The balance of repost bots/trolls/idiots/people who think saying the same joke a million times is funny vs. people you actually can converse with really started outweighing the latter ever since covid hit and Reddit got even more popular (it was on a slow decline regardless). The api changes just made everything even worse.
I’d like to think things here will be better, and to be honest I’m really liking Lemmy so far.
The quality of reddit posts outside of niche communities or events has tanked a lot. Most of the stuff at the top is AITA(H), the most basic questions, and reposts, with some short video clips and the occasional comic. Doesn’t help that it is known that someone is using LLMs for bot accounts.
Agree on communities over here getting created during the exodis, seeing a small surge, and then kind of withering. I’m subbed to 15ish communities that aren’t even all that niche (3D printing, photography, woodworking) and it’s rare that they all get one post per day. There are obviously people lurking because posts will get comments, but I think we’re all a little wary of being the person to post a bunch of content for fear of no one else doing so.
The people on here on are on mighty high horses but don’t realize they’re still in the children’s section. It’s so cringey. I want to hate reddit but the lemmings here are sometimes vomitable. Stop comparing redditors. Redditors are YOU, just earlier or later. You were a redditor before! If you weren’t, then you crawled out of some miracle vaginal and found your way to the lemmyverse.
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To be fair, your use of the R word as a pejorative reduces your credibility as a moral compass. I do agree with your overall point though.
Lmao I know you are trying to help but this is Lemmy in a nutshell to a T hahaha. Yeah that word needs retired for sure but man, put it in a dm lol.
Public shaming is entirely appropriate in circumstances such as this.
Public shaming only works if the target is shamed ~.^
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2023 now… doesn’t matter what it used to be.
Yes, so thats 33 years where its NOT BEEN USED TO REFER TO PEOPLE WITH DEVELOPMENTMENTAL DISABILITIES
It absolutely was used to refer to development disabilities in the US during the 80s - as well as anyone acting like they were disabled.
And probably about 23 years where it’s been frowned on to use the word as a pejorative. Don’t use your capital letters with me dipshit.
I can capitalise whatever letters I damn well please, and like I said in another reply, insults by their nature have never been appropriate, and by their very nature are frowned upon.
Yet, you’re cool with doing it… okay.
Your experience is not absolute. It’s still abelist and offensive.
Nah man, I’m just not down for constantly keeping up to date with the treadmill of what words are and arent appropriate… especially for insults, which have never been meant to be appropriate. I dont fucking care if your feelings are so fragile that relatively tame words can hurt you
Then that’s a more honest response than your earlier one. It’s not that you don’t understand that others may be hurt by your language even though it’s not a word you personally ever used to describe developmental disabilities, it’s just that you don’t give a shit.
Good on you for owning it (on the second try), I guess.
I dont fucking care if your feelings are so fragile that relatively tame words can hurt you
You mean like developmentally disabled people you work with who may have good reasons to be sensitive about certain words? I guess since one of those people said he was cool with it he speaks for all of them. I’m sure none of them have ever been hurt by hateful people using the R word about them.
Nah man, I’m just not down for constantly keeping up to date with the treadmill of what words are and arent appropriate… especially for insults
50+ years old and in my entire life this isn’t something I’ve found to be mentally taxing to keep up with. This is truly the flimsiest excuse I’ve ever seen for using shitty language. Just stick with “I don’t fucking care.”
Do you really not know that people can have multiple different reasons and motivations for their behaviours and actions? I’ve been honest this entire time, there are slurs I absolutely wont use because of their history and the immediate harm they cause, but retard isnt one of them, so my earlier explaination still stands. Its also true that people that get offended on others behalf annoy me and I dont care when I offend them. If I PERSONALLY offend someone for something that they PERSONALLY struggle with? I care in that scenario and I mark it down mentally to adapt to their needs and not hurt them again. You are a stranger on the internet, I dont care about you, I dont have the emotional space to. I didnt casually use the spicy word, I used it specifically as an insult towards people who I’ve been dealing with dogshit takes from. To be clear, I NEVER called any of my clients Retard, and this client I only did for them, after they requested it, and even then it made me uncomfortable because using that word to refer to someone with developmental disabilities IS gross. Nuance exists. And yes, I’m tired of the treadmill. I have Aspergers syndrome and now the treadmill is trying to tell me that not only did the DSM take that diagnosis away, I’m now not allowed to refer to my high functioning autism as Aspergers since the guy whom it was named after was a nazi, even though my autism has NEVER BEEN about that guy, and IM THE PERSON WHO HAS the diagnosis.
I don’t fucking care.
I’m just not down for constantly keeping up to date with the treadmill of what words are and arent appropriate
Then be prepared for people to rightly call you a bigot. Sorry you’re done learning, grandpa but the world keeps turning.
And the fact that you now know better and still choose to hurt ableist language just means you’re embracing your bigotry.
That’s how it works in most abusive relationships. The perpetrator behaves terribly and then is forgiven. Like the tide coming in each time the abuse is worse, more damaging or in this case more demeaning, but the cost of exiting the relationship is too high because it means to become alone and people hate loneliness more than being shit upon so they complain and stay and hope that this time it will be better even though if they think about it they know it won’t be.
I was mostly on Reddit for hockey game threads. Lemmy sucks for that at the moment, so… I went to discord. Fuck spez
Oh, I hadn’t looked for hockey on discord Say what you will about reddit, I do kinda miss r/canucks, the happiest group of sad folks on the internet!
Any suggestions for a discord newbie on finding hockey communities?
Eventually we should move to something like Matrix or at least Revolt (still waiting on an actual Android app for that one)
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The quality of reddit has seriously gone downhill. It feels like being on Facebook or something, the comments are cringrworthy and just plain odd and the posts aren’t great either.
It’s actually pretty funny how many discussions about Reddit, Twitter, and Threads happening in the Fediverse.
I just deleted my Reddit account a few months ago (and my Twitter account years ago) and I don’t think I miss anything.
I miss reddit every day. The niche communities were large enough there to have content.
I said I’d leave at the end of June if they went through with the API changes bc and I did. But of they reversed course today I’d absolutely go back instantly.
The good news is now you get to help establish those communities you once loved
Exactly! Beautiful statement! 👍👍👍
Nah, for me Reddit made me understand centralization in exchange for niche communities isn’t worth the trade offs that vom with it. I’d rather start new communities on Lemmy than going back to Reddit. I do miss r/rimjobsteve though
I’ve actually just found myself doing more stuff since I quit reddit.
I miss the hell out of my Twitter feed.
It’s dead though, half my community left but it really broke up the network.
same tbh lol, I only lost the tales from reddits but like those were usually toxic anyway at times.
This is me. I still go there for two or three subs that don’t have critical mass here (thus no conversation). The upcoming weighted sort algo should help a little, drawing people to smaller community content.
But I also moderate a reasonably large sub there, and have stopped attempting to grow anything there – just spam removal, manually.
But I don’t post new content there. Sometimes I’ll reply on a comment chain. Here I post new content and interact a lot more.
I’m using Lemmy Connect as my app (like 98% of it). What’s interesting is, when I use Reddit I refuse to use their app, so I’m using old Reddit, in a browser. But I catch myself attempting to swipe on comments using the Lemmy Connect gestures.
So I’ve definitely flipped to Lemmy first.
I quit Reddit 2 years ago due to the content becoming more and more toxic (maybe it was always toxic) and I’m just so dang happy that my favorite 3rd party Reddit apps have a Lemmy client. I’m using Sync and it’s like coming home. Functionally identical experience but with a cooler community.
I didn’t notice much degradation after the 2016 election enshittening. I set to work blocking all the power users and was able to to maintain the post-2016 level of quality right up until I largely quit.
There are two subs I use that have no Lemmy equivalent (one of them probably never will) but otherwise Reddit is just a marginally better StackOverflow for me now.
Also I must admit the Excel subreddit is simply too useful to quit. I’m a damn wizard at this point and these people still surprise me.
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