cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/37281970
Believe it or not, an unexpected conflict has arisen in the openSUSE community with its long-time supporter and namesake, the SUSE company.
At the heart of this tension lies a quiet request that has stirred not-so-quiet ripples across the open source landscape: SUSE has formally asked openSUSE to discontinue using its brand name.
Richard Brown, a key figure within the openSUSE project, shared insights into the discussions that have unfolded behind closed doors.
Despite SUSE’s request’s calm and respectful tone, the implications of not meeting it could be far-reaching, threatening the symbiotic relationship that has benefited both entities over the years.
Oh wow. SUSE family of distribution is relatively small footprint. Whole story sounds like “splitting the hair”. The only reasonable explanation is that SUSE hired some self-glorified marketer from big corp. omg…
LibreSUSE 😎
I’d love them to replace SUSE with SUS. Distrowatch click rate +500%
I would that too
OpenSueUs
Holy shit that was so good lol
Rename it to openSUS
Doesn’t SUSE actively benefit from openSUSE development? I thought Tumbleweed and SLES had a similar relationship as Fedora and RHEL.
Notice that “Fedora” does not have “Redhat” its name. Maybe the request is reasonable. I don’t know how many people think that thy don’t need SLES, because there is openSUSE.
My comment was more about how SUSE benefits from openSUSE development (and vice-versa) and that Tumbleweed has a similar relationship to SLES as Fedora has to RHEL, as they are both upstream of their respective enterprise distributions.
Besides, people don’t need SLES. Enterprises do because of the support they get. And I’d assume employees responsible for that kind of thing at such enterprises would know the difference.
And the Red Hat logo is literally a fedora hat.
If it’s just a name change done well, I couldn’t care less (although openSUSE is a very recognizable name and brand recognition would have to be reestablished). I just hope that this isn’t the beginning of something worse.
SUSE provide a lot of the infrastructure for openSUSE and base their enterprise Linux from factory.
TIL SUSE exists and wouldn’t have found out if not for OpenSUSE and this news. It’s kinda weird to open their website and see this:
SUSE is such a stupid name. Like, it is stupid to say in German.
Just rename it SUSGeckoOS
If GeckOS isn’t already taken, it could be kinda cool.
Why Geck ?
A gecko is a lizard, so it’s in keeping with SUSE’s chameleon theme. Maybe a little too similar for corporate.
I think Komodo Linux, or KomodOS are good options too, but I can’t recall if they were already used for a distro.
Komodo (last update 2006)
I don’t know what’s stupid to say about Gesellschaft für Software und Systementwicklung mit beschränkter Haftung
They are the second largest “Linux company” by revenue after Red Hat iirc
It’s SUSSY Linux time
That must be annoying just after OpenSUSE went through a branding redesign process. I guess they’ll have to give up the gecko logo since SUSE also uses it?
And there’s more at stake than a rebranding it seems. This could signal SUSE withdrawing development support from OpenSUSE:
Let’s face it: SUSE has been more than just a namesake for openSUSE; it has actively provided resources and support far beyond what it would ordinarily need for its business operations.
This generosity has fostered a thriving openSUSE project that has excelled under SUSE’s goodwill and informal support, including contributions made by SUSE employees on company time.
However, the recent request for a branding separation has overshadowed this partnership. If openSUSE does not handle this request with the sensitivity and cooperation it demands, the project risks not just a reduction in support from SUSE but a potential shift in priorities away from it.
The “Factory first” policy, a cornerstone of the engineering synergy between SUSE and openSUSE, could also be scrutinized, emphasizing the gravity of the current situation.
This could signal SUSE withdrawing development support from OpenSUSE
i had a similar thought; feels like the centos/redhat episode we had a couple years ago.
Heh. “A couple of years ago.”
That quote sounds uncomfortably like a grudge on SUSE Enterprise’s part.
It’s a quote from the article, not a statement by SUSE.
Okay, that’s better.
This is a massive miss-play on Suse’s part. Essentially all the good will, and recognition I have for Suse is based on OpenSuse. It’s the reason many of the places I’ve worked at now run a Suse product instead of redhat. Seriously, when I think of OpenSuse and Suse as a whole I barely differentiate the toonunlike redhat and fedora. That’s likely the reason for the switch but I cannot see how-this does anything but benefit them.
From the article too there are some concerns. Suse is, admittedly, trying to cause opensuse to change direction ans managment to further suit it’s buisness at threat of removing support. This is sad to see.
to further suit its* business.
To fursuit it is business
OpenSusame
The request was respectful and SUSEs support on OpenSUSE is very helping the project so I’d personally be fine with fulfilling that request
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This is absurd
Years ago, when there were talks about establishing an independent foundation, sane people already warned that relying on a trademark not owned by them is risky. That was batted away as a non-issue. Now here we are.
AbsurdOS – the free enterprise operating system
OpenSUS
Lizard Linux
Lizard Linux
Lizard LinuxIntroducing openSUSA
That is the phonetic spelling of how you’re supposed to say SUSE. It’s. SUSAhhh, like appaloosa. I know this because I watch that goofy video on youtube.