Just blocked lemmy.ml from my Lemmy account, and I swear to god it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done on this platform. My homepage feels actually clean now.

For the past few months I’d been seeing a lot of tankie posting and pretty much far-left propaganda on my feed. It got tiring enough that I finally checked my blocked-user list, and realized pretty much everyone I’d blocked was from lemmy.ml. So I just blocked the whole instance instead.

Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist: I used to think Lemmy itself was an echo chamber. Turns out lemmy.ml was the problem the entire time. Probably the reason I tolerated it for so long is that I agreed with a lot of what they posted, but like an oversaturated meme, I’d had enough. Browsing the platform was starting to feel way too tiring instead of fun, which defeats the point of being here in the first place.

The breaking point was seeing some dude post a “meme” implying North Korea and China are basically communist utopias and that the West sucks. I mean, the West does suck, but come on - you’re saying North Korea is the ideal the West should strive for? What the hell…

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    Having mindless tankies parrot ccp and russian propaganda is getting tiring.

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      their doomer, pseudo intellectual main course with a dessert of populist fantasy crap is depressing

      at least their radicalization stuff was kinda spicy but it’s an addictive combo to melt your brain into the cult

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      No! It isn’t propaganda! You’re the one who is parroting propaganda!

      Saying russia and china are dictatorships and stuff, i saw a post on VK that said exactly the contrary! And it must be true!

      Xi Jinping said he cares about free speech, he can’t lie, only western politicians lie!

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    This post made me curious so I took a look at my block list, and almost all of my blocked accounts are from .world. I’ve only blocked two .ml users. I wonder how much that varies by instance.

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      Every time I see people from a handful of the same instance always try to pivot any discussion of one of the other handful of instances back to a criticize of .world, I go look at their post history.

      I always see the same thing; almost all .world postings, a few of the others, and none on their home instance, or any of the ones they’re defending

      I keep asking, never getting an answer:

      Why do you hang around .world so much if you don’t like it?

      Why not just block .world?

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      they started making accounts on other instances so they can spout their shit and get banned without it getting back to their main instance to avoid defederation

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    Could someone give some examples of these leftist propaganda posts? I just browse all top day, maybe they get diluted enough for me to overlook these… i’ve seen this argument pass by so many times.

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    Pro russia propaganda is generally contained in ml own communities. The tiresome thing for me is zionist tolerant instances and communities and fake palestinians supporter who both side the colonizers and the colonized or defend rhe democrats support for the colonizers

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      No I seem them regularly spreading pro russian propaganda and demeaning jabs against ukrainans in .world communities. The instance has to many disgusting users for it to be waved away with the “few bad apples” defense

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        My argument was not to say that there is only few bad apples on the ml just that in my experience I don’t see their propaganda that much often outside of their bubble

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        The instance has to many disgusting users for it to be waved away with the “few bad apples” defense

        Meanwhile .world has Zionists modding it’s major coms

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    I have never noticed any problem with lemmy.ml.

    Block all the low-quality meme/image content if lemmy feels tiring. Stop consuming garbage.

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    I’m on .ml and just don’t see this. I moved here from .world after the cat food ban. The stupidity burned too much for me to stay there. I’m unsubscribed to most of the lemmy communities where the political crap is, so maybe that helps.

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        It’s a long story but basically after some stupid drama, lemmy.world banned discussion of cat food unless there was scientific evidence presented that the cat food was healthy for the cat. The drama had been about vegan cat food discussions in the vegan discussion group. Vegan cat food turns out to be a thing and appears to have enough approvals to be sold in pet stores, but people on .world wanting to talk about it should come over here to .ml. No I wasn’t a participant in the vegan group discussion itself. I made some posts in the surrounding drama thread that you can probably find in my .world profile from shortly after I joined.

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          oh man, I forgot about that shit. I’m pretty sure I got banned from some communities for that.

          🤷 I just blocked them back and moved on.

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            Lemmy.world’s admin (not community mods but the actual instance admin) decreed that lemmy.world was going to be like Wikipedia, where anything controversial that you posted had to be accompanied by a research citation, more or less. The specific statement under dispute was that brand XYZ vegan cat food was ok to feed to your cat. A bunch of idiots howled “cats are obligate carnivores, hur hur! They can’t survive on a vegan diet! Mods, delete that comment!!!” and the site admin sided with the idiots. So I had to escape from the stupidity. Are you still confused? Btw the vegan cat food is perfectly fine for cats as far as I can tell. No I’m not about to go look for diffs links so some of those details may be garbled by now.

            I don’t think the citation policy was ever enforced on anything else, but anything that crazy is hard to forget.

            .world also defederated hexbear because it didn’t like hexbear’s politics, but I’m a regular on hexbear’s covid community (which is pretty good and not that political) so I had to go elsewhere for it. I can still reach it from .ml but this convinced me that the federation model is a failure. There’s no giant Spez overlord who can censor you, but there are 100 petty instance admins who can censor you instead. I’m still on Lemmy to stay away from Spez though.

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                Well you can find the actual wording, but I think it didn’t have much effect except that one discussion. The edict was issued and otherwise forgotten about.

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              I already kind of assumed cat kibble was made with plants or something lol. Meat is expensive.

              As long as they’re healthy and nutrition is met, who cares? I’m sure that they actually tested this food before putting it on the market. Feels like most of the “discussion” was just people raging against veganism and vegetarianism again.

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    People should block users and instances that they dont want to see. They are in charge of their account. Then you wont have to feudpost about these people you blocked because you wont see them.

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      Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.

      In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.

      This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.

      This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.

      At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.

      Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.

      This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up. That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance.

      But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.

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        But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.

        That is honestly a real problem, that you do not automatically block the users from an instance, when you block the entire instance.

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    I find the whining and complaining more annoying.

    It’s easy to block content you don’t want (or switch to software that supports it). If it annoys you, block it.

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    Damn, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen one of these “greetings fellow leftists” posts whining about .ml.

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          yeah lol, i blocked more users complaining about it than from your instance, which is personally offputting to me but yeah that’s why it’s your instance and not mine, people just rather bitch than do something to help their own lives

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    ML is not far-left, it pretends to be in order to spread pro-Putin, pro-Russian, and pro-Republican state propaganda because they know it’s destroying America. ML and Russia are about as socialist as the Nazis claimed to be.

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      Marxism-Leninism is an ideology centered around establishing collectivized economy and eradicating class society. The only support MLs have of Russia is with respect to their opposition to the western imperialist hegemony, not for Russia in general. This is the meaning of “critical support.”

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        In the laudable goal of dismantling of western hegemony, .ml and Russia are certainly having an effect. However, it’s quite clear to me that a Marxist-Leninist alternative is not the goal.

        The problem I see is that they’re working to simply replace one imperialist system with another. If in the work of dismantling American hegemony they serve to support a Soviet-style dictator’s hegemony, its just the same imperialism using Marxist-Leninism as the justification instead of “democracy” and “capitalism”. Furthermore, supporting MAGA as a vehicle to weaponize US incompetence is still supporting an authoritarian president, even if it effectively shrinks American hegemony.

        This is the same Cold War of constructed ideologies we’ve been fighting since the end of WWII, it is just that America has been ahead until now. Us vs. Them; America in the Middle East, Russia in Eastern Europe, China in the Pacific, Vietnam, Korea, etc. It’s just empires snatching up vassals and exploiting influence. The only difference is that in the US, we use the veneer of elections to “legitimize” it.

        I cannot claim to be impartial or innocent of this, but I still think it’s disingenuous to misrepresent the philosophy of Marxist-Leninism to in-effect support yet another imperialist and authoritarian system just like the US does with democracy, and that support is all I ever see from the users and communities of ML. Although I’m sure ML can say the same thing, which seems to be how we ended up here.

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          Russia is not imperialist, as it utterly lacks the finance capital required to be as such. It’s predominantly an industrial economy without any colonies nor neocolonies, similar to Iran. Marxist-Leninists do not support the capitalist economy of Russia, but the idea that it even could replace the US Empire as world hegemon is frankly a result of a lack of understanding how and why the US Empire is what it is. Finance capital is the key, and Russia has a tiny amount of it relative to the rest of the world.

          As for “authoritarianism,” Marxist-Leninists support workers having control of state authority. All states are authoritarian, the distinction lies primarily in which class wields it. The form may change, and the extent it is applied also changes based on conditions, but at the end of the day the state is an instrument of the ruling class in any given society, be it capitalists or workers. As such, no Marxist-Leninists support the dictatorship of capital in Russia.