The first Jurassic Park movie is all time one of the greatest films ever made with the special effects still holding up to this day. The 2nd film was still very enjoyable in my opinion but it was just a cookie cutter sequel not bad, not good. The 3rd film wasn’t great at all. But compared to the rest of the series the 3rd film is basically the godfather.

As another personal pick the 1st blade movie is a hood classic good. The other 2 not so much.

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    The Matrix.

    Not sure how that isn’t mentioned yet!

    First movie was a masterpiece that became a classic, the rest were completely unnecessary.

    When my brother showed The Matrix to his kid, she asked “Is there another one?” and he said “No.”

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      I can respect the fourth one. Sure, it was a terrible movie but it feels like a deliberate piss take on the idea of reviving the franchise. And I can respect that.

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        I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking that. It was so bad, so so bad… But yeah I couldn’t help but feel the wachowski sister that did it (if I’m not wrong the other one didn’t participate) just dit it to spite the studio for trying to make a moneygrab movie.

        Having said that, despite the 2nd and 3rd movies not being great by any means compared to the first one, I do still enjoy them, like a guilty pleasure kinda thing.

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          IIRC in the first half hour they explicitly shit talk the execs wanting a sequel so it’s quite obvious it’s a middle finger to Warner bros.

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          The 2nd and 3rd ones are still fun, action-packed movies with ground-breaking effects. The Matrix set an impossibly high bar and it was not originally planned to be a sequel, let alone a trilogy. They also whipped them together much faster, so in that context, I think they did a great job.

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          Huh. Douglas Adams did something similar when his publisher kept pressuring him to make another Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy book.
          “STOP MAKING ME WRITE THESE”

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          I said I can respect it, not that it’s good. It feels like a deliberate attempt to torpedo the revival of a series that really didn’t need to be revived. That’s what I can respect, not the movie on its own merits.

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    Is there any what gets better? There are good sequels, but once it becomes movie franchise, it all turns to shit. Sometimes faster, sometimes slower.

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        It being filmed together is it being a 6+ hour movie in 3 chapters. I think it’s a single project not successive films. Just how I frame it, I concede to technicalities if you must

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      The Sergio Leone trilogy with Clint Eastwood arguably gets better. The first one was almost a shot-for-shot remake of Yojimbo - good but derivative. The third movie stood up well against the early ones and the music was maybe the best.

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      I’d argue the original Evil Dead trilogy get progressively better with each movie.

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      Franchises where the second film is more broadly acclaimed than the first: Star Wars, The Godfather, The Dark Knight, arguably Alien, Terminator, Star Trek, Paddington, Rocky, James Bond, The Pink Panther, Mad Max. Ones where the third film is the most acclaimed: arguably Indiana Jones, maybe Toy Story, LOTR (kind of all a merged movie so doesn’t count), The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Star Wars prequels

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        Hahaha. Now do a set where the second movie was better than the first but the third movie was absolutely awful.

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      Not a fan of the Scream movies, but just saw a video of a guy talking about how each one gets better than the last one mainly because they are self aware of being sequels and use that to enrich the narrative

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      Spiderman 2 was arguably better than Spiderman 1. 3 was worse tho.

      And being extremely malicious, I like two towers and return of the king more than the fellowship of the ring :)

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      Ouija 2 Origin of Evil by Mike Flannigan is the rare exception where the sequel trounced the OG in every way.

      The Librarian also all three movies are good, with the third being arguably the best.

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      Tron, if you care about the music. Going from peak (Wendy Carlos) to peak (Daft Punk) to peak (Nine Inch Nails) even if the movies are bad.

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      So long as you can put yourself in the headspace, the fast and furious movies do get better when you realize that every movie is the exact same film (besides Tokyo drift anyway), but with higher stakes than the last one, to kind of absurd levels - starts with street racing, ends up in space, through so many movies.

      But that’s kind of a meta analysis based on what they are, not the actual quality, none of them are amazing, but fine if you can turn your brain off for a bit

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    I felt bad for Lost World, because Crighton went out of his way to write a novel that was a sequel to the first movie, not the first book, and then Spielberg just basically ignored it like it never happened.

    I wanted to not see the chameleon dinosaurs, damn it!

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    Home Alone

    Home Alone: In New York

    Home Alone: No Macauly

    Home Alone: There’s a fourth one?

    Home Alone 5.

    Home Sweet Home Alone: Exclusive to Disney+

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      I feel like the matrix 2 is similar to jurassic park 2. Very clearly inferior, but enjoyable enough to not be a complete waste of time.

      I’m saying that, I’ll say that JP 2 is better than matrix 2. I’ll happily watch JP 2 again, probably with my kids at some point, but if not then on my own… But I would be happy whether I see matrix 2 again or not.

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        I very much enjoy Matrix 2… It has some amazing fight scenes (neo vs the vampires), some cool new characters (The Merovingian, the Twins, Persephone, Niobe…) and I think it’s a fun movie, even though it’s clearly not as deep as the first one.

        It’s a shame they never released a third one though 🙄

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        Yeah but it was pretty clear the Wachowskis didn’t want it made and Lana only did it because they would have done it with or without them.

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        It should have ended at the -1th movie

        I joke. I ironically love those films because they are terrible.

        Nobody likes the tuna here, asshole!

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          The first movie was serious, but as they progress they lean in on the silliness. Going to space was the cherry on the cake.

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            The goddamn spinoff dealing with a rogue supersoldier, and the two leads basically being superhuman already.

            I only watched a couple minutes, but that was more than I could handle.

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    Nah, Blade 2 still fucks.

    Blade Trinity is just as rough now as it was when it first released.

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    JP went from a Dinosaur Movie to a very generic monster movie with the exact same plot every time.

    Greedy evildoer wants SuperDino for nefarious purposes and must be defeated. Repeat.

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    Ghostbusters. Some late 80’s exec in tv and film was obsessed with putting babies in everything and the second movie got shanked in a dark alley by them.

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          I am an unabashed fan of Ghostbusters 2016. The scene with Holtzmann and the pistols gives me tingles. Kevin is just a gem.

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          Absolutely not. There were one or two moments that made me laugh (notably the very end when Chris Hemsworth gets the burrito smacked out of his hand and some rando off-screen tosses it back to him), and the only other thing I can think of is Leslie Jones feeling like she actually tried and gave a shit. I actually liked her character the best because she wasn’t some dumb eccentric ghost-genius.

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    Any of the classic Disney animated movies. First movie is a ripoff of classic fairy tales so most of the heavy lifting writing wise was done for them, the instant Disney has to write the whole thing is when it goes to shit. If it’s “Disney presents [insert fairy tale here] 2” you know it’ll suck.

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    I would argue that Blade II is the better movie. Guillermo del Toro is a much more interesting director, and the Reapers are basically a dry run for his take on Vampires in The Strain.

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      I was gonna say, how is this entire thread skipping over the take that Blade 2 is a step down from the first? It’s not the craziest movie take I’ve read on here, but it definitely flies in the face of what I understood to be popular opinion.

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        Yeah, I thought that was the general consensus too, but I couldn’t be sure that wasn’t just an echo chamber I’d created with my friend group.

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          In OP’s defense, I checked out both movies’ Letterboxd ratings, and Blade 1 is rated at 3.5 out of 5, and Blade 2 is sitting at 3.3, so maybe it is just an echo chamber thing. That being said, I really believe this was not the case 10, 15 years ago.

          Having sat with it for awhile now, I’m kind of coming around on the notion. I’d have to do a back to back viewing to confirm, but my current hypothesis is that Blade 1 is an excellent urban action-horror picture. It does everything you’d expect it to do pretty well. Blade 2, being a product of Guillermo’s interests, has this weird, quasi-Shakespearian family drama between Nomac, lady vampire, and the patriarch serving as the emotional spine of the picture. It’s fine, but I remember a lot more about their dynamics than I remember about Blade’s arc, which is maybe not what you want from a Blade movie. Plus, all the extra vampire lore and whatnot makes the picture feel less like urban action-horror and more like a fantasy film, which just so happens to have guns and the occasional unwitting human. Not bad, but it does feel like a dry run for ideas Guillermo would do better in other movies.

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            Honestly, I remember similar vamp lore dragging down the first one. There some interesting stuff with Frost being lower class because he was turned Vamp instead of born Vamp, but the third-act vampire-god thing was kinda meh, ending with some horribly dated CGI.

            Also, while the world building was cool, it’s not as though Blade is a super interesting character. He’s a super cool bad-ass, but I find myself checking out when they get into his emotional backstory. Whistler id mich more of the emotional core of fhat movie, which is probably why they had to bring him back in the second (which ie something in fhe second movie that I thought was a cheap cop-out).