I understand that some of the criticism comes from conservatives but the sentiment seems to extend far beyond thst. Of course, I understand it when it’s forced or when someone only does it to survive against their will. But if people genuinely want to do it, why do people hate on them?
One modern issue is that sites like OnlyFans has caused is a unique type of spam as various models spam in a lot of places in order to build their audience.
my issue…
they are just ads with tits. (yes, I’m being blunt). they come into social settings and post images or whatever, and it’s just yo… you with the penis. give me money because I have tits.
overall, I have no issue with the site. but FFS … STAY ON THAT SITE. don’t come here and advertise your ass cheese. its annoying and the majority dgaf.
this applies to onlyfans because pornstars… well they don’t do that shit. they keep their crap to normal ads (which still suck) and their sites. I have respect for pornstars, I have no respect for onlyfans ‘gimmie money’ clowns
Apparently one of the reasons for advertising off-site is because OF does not have an on-site discovery mechanism. So there really aren’t other options. Not the fault of the performers.
Huh. I would have guessed that they would try to get consumers to subscribe to as many providers as possible and constantly suggest new ones (social media style)
Ass cheese? Link?
Bro has failed to consider male sex work, or sex work not aimed at people with penises.
In all seriousness this is giving big “I’m OK with gays but can they just not shove it in my face?” energy. Reevaluate how your phrase this argument.
tell me you hate women without telling me you hate women
re-reading what you actually replied too.
shut up, you’re an absolute twat
people think it’s easy money and get jealous
and people like that never realize just how much work actually goes into it (speaking from personal experience here)
This is probably a hot take, but it’s because society has this weird aversion to sex even though it’s necessary for us to continue existing. This aversion extends to sex work in general and is also the reason why the field has so many problems.
I’m no prude, but I also don’t think a lot of porn actors really want to be doing what they are doing. There is a lot of manipulation, drugging, exploitation, and straight up criminal activity that a large porn industry begets. But if you regulate it, if you protect sex workers, if you disallow access for younger people (I’m not for age verification, I’m saying parent/guardian intervention), if you allow the actors to have agency and full authority over their own work, then cool. I think there needs to be a lot more study and subsequent awareness what early access to pornography does to a young mind. I truly believe that porn is responsible for the increase in vociferous misogyny we are seeing with young men, enabled by the manosphere, which is just chock-full of sex predators and straight up pedophiles. To start to even have these discussions though, the taboo around sex needs to be widely removed.
I’ve always been curious about the effects on minors as well, especially with a country like Japan where sex is much more widely accepted and pornography is just out on display in some stores. From what I’ve heard, Japan has always had the mentality that porn would be either unappealing to minors or, specifically for games, would be to difficult for them to actually play because they’d have trouble reading the text. I know that Japan has done studies on other porn related topics, so maybe they have in the past and were able to come to this conclusion.
There is a lot of manipulation, drugging, exploitation, and straight up criminal activity that a large porn industry begets.
I’d be curious to see the stats, but I’d be shocked if this hasn’t gotten much better since like the 70s-90s. For one, OF does allow for freelance work. Also, I’ve seen more and more professional porn outfits that are created/run by women.
ITT: misogyny
Misogyny.
They don’t. Generally, nobody cares. The few that do are just so damn loud you’d think there was a lot of them.
Because most cultures have been heavily influenced by cultures descended from the bronze age sheep fuckers who came up with the idea of virginity as a way of ensuring paternity and maximizing the price they could charge for selling their preteen daughters to old men.
I think a lot of hate comes from:
- People who are jealous of people with natural looks
- People are jealous of people who have more motivation than them to exercise and keep their bodies healthy
- Men who exercise and work on their bodies but can’t make any money from it
yep, lots of jealousy
and they never realize just how much work is actually involved
for real this topic always comes along when my bf jokes about opening an OF together
i bluntly respond with “yeah we just need to market ourselves on elon’s twitter for months with teasers and maybe paying for that blue mark while networking with other creators”
You forgot:
- Butter incels
Those are probably covered by the other three groups
Men who exercise and work on their bodies but can’t make any money from it
I mean they can, there are many male OF models and some don’t even work out, you only need to find your place in the market (usually with a kink)
i wish i had this realization when i was younger. lol
back then, i was deeply confused when i learned that people were getting off to a surreptitiously recorded hookup that featured me because i assumed no fancied me; yet there was in in my full glory laughing at the wailing coming from the man i’m pleasuring and the video had over 100k likes/upvotes.
it wouldn’t have made me a millionaire; but it would have gotten me a hell of a lot closer than i will ever be. lol
and at least i got a husband out of the whole affair; i like silver linings. lol
damn that sounds hot no wonder it got many likes lol
you would be surprised, a friend of mine got popular with their low quality gay orgy videos and now lives on Canada and its part of a polycule
sounds like they did better than i did. lol
I mean they can, there are many male OF models and some don’t even work out, you only need to find your place in the market (usually with a kink)
For sure! I didn’t mean “they can’t make money” as in “men can’t make any money”. That’d be absurd.
I meant that “those angry individuals can’t make money from it”. And maybe they could if they tried, but they’re not trying, so they can’t.
You do know that you don’t have to be gay to make gay porn, right?
american puratism has infected the world.
Apologies if i’m wrong, isn’t it puritanism
Sex is still seen as a Taboo. It’s 2026 guys, come on!
You say that, but outside of Europe, I’m fairly sure much of society is getting less permissive since the 60s.
It can only get worse!
Sex workers face mortality rates from overdose that dwarf the general population. We’re talking about an external-cause mortality risk roughly 8-12 times higher for these marginalized groups. The direct link is undeniable: studies show a significant history of substance dependence (100% in one cohort) with opioids involved in ~90% of those fatal events. It’s crucial to note these are likely “conservative estimates” because many records don’t capture sex work status.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12405828/
The driving factor isn’t the work itself, but the trauma surrounding it. You see a high burden of PTSD, anxiety, and depression that predates or coincides with substance use. For many, the drug use, especially “polysubstance” mixing of opioids and benzos, is a form of self-medication to numb the violence and stigma
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acps.13559
The overdose is often a direct consequence of criminalization and policing. Research shows that when police target sex workers or create barriers to safe consumption sites, the odds of a fatal overdose more than double (AOR 2.15)
I dated a cam girl for a while, (insert the obligatory “it’s not dating if you’re paying her lul” joke here), and she smoked a quarter per day. It was the only way she could tolerate the work.
Given, she was damned good at her job. She made more in 4 hours of streaming than my roommate and I made in a week combined. She literally made enough to cover her rent and bills in like three or four hours of work. So she could definitely afford to smoke that much, because basically everything after that first stream was disposable income for her. But she would get done with her stream and immediately hit a bowl to try and forget the work. And she’d basically be stoned until her next stream was scheduled to start.
If she had ever graduated to harder drugs, she 100% would have OD’ed. However, it’s also a little disingenuous to compare streamers/OnlyFans models with in-person sex workers. There’s a level of compartmentalization that online sex work creates. It’s definitely still reliant on building a parasocial relationship, but you’re not actually sleeping with Johns in person. Unless you’re doxxed, there’s very little personal risk involved. But with in-person sex work, all of that is inverted. Online sex work is obviously still sex work, but it’s definitely a different type of sex work.
It’s like comparing retail work with an Amazon warehouse. Both jobs suck in their own way, and they’re both fulfilling the same basic purpose of getting products to customers. But very few people would say that they’re the same job, and the stressors associated with each are unique.
While yes, I agree that OnlyFans is sex work, I disagree with lumping the general “prostitute” from the street/brothel with the onlyfans/sex cam worker.
The remote nature keeps unsavory folk away by default (under the assumption that they arent doxxed) while sex work in person is, well, in person.
Personally, I think influencer/hustle culture, parasocial relations, personal “brands” are a rot on society coming from the worst parts of capitalism. The influencer benefits from alienation and I think that’s wrong. I don’t think an OF model is any worse than any other influencer. I also think a lot of OF models didn’t feel they had many options when they started. But the really successful ones could get out or be less parasocial or something.
I don’t like how it’s spammed around, otherwise I wouldn’t care about it.
My opinion is that, if you ignore the judeo-christian prudishness, it comes down to two things.
First, some jealousy. It looks like easy money, and they’re having sex (in the case of porn actors), so there’s this almost subconscious anger that someone else found a trick to “get rich”. Thing is with that, the only people getting rich in porn were/are the producers. Only fans shifted that a little, but the company takes a cut like any asshole pimp would. I’ve actually heard people irl express things that lead me to believe this is a common factor.
Second is the fact that a large swath of people, even though otherwise open minded and unconcerned about sex issues, still think that the only reason one would sell their sexuality is because they can’t do better. It’s the whole thing where humans like to piss downhill. Anyone doing something that a person considers “below” them is gong to be seen as inherently flawed. That doesn’t apply only to porn, btw.
Hell, I fall prey to the trope that anyone doing porn must have some kind of trauma, if I don’t pay attention to myself. It is true that porn as it exists in this world is marginalized, and heavily staffed by sufferers of trauma. It actually is one of those jobs where people that have serious mental health problems and/or drug dependency get drawn to because it’s relatively easy to find and keep income compared to other jobs when you have those issues.
Since porn is marginalized, there is a significant portion of the on screen workers that don’t have many other options. It’s super easy for someone young, undereducated, and desperate to end up being paid to show their body or fuck. Since someone in that situation is going to get paid less doing anything else they could find, the industry is heavily weighted towards that population (partially because of the ease of finding desperate people, and mostly because the desperate are easier to exploit and abuse).
Only fans runs closer to neutral since it is based in individuals. So while abuse occurs, and there’s a lot wrong with the company, the real abuse only happens when an outside person is forcing a model or models to perform. Not that porn is free of trafficking and forced labor, but it’s less useful to do that for porn when there’s easier ways to exploit someone there.
That’s my take anyway. It’s based on casual conversations with people that object to porn in its various guises, and the rest from casual exposure to interviews and conversations with adult performers
