Taking “will it run doom” one step too far.
We need to take it back a step and see if it’ll run Linux.
Asking someone to compile the kernel with their mind sure is one way to give someone a headache
A closer example would be if it could use the console in linux since it’s only playing dom not running it, I wonder if wetware would be any better as a coding assistant than ai
Is anyone else really skeeved out by the term “wetware”, or is that just me
playing dom
I do not think we should train a bioengineered intelligence with guns to do that.
Don’t kink shame
Hey human doms I’m 100% okay with, it’s these things I’m worried about
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/doom/images/2/27/Meet_spider.png/revision/latest
Can they run console commands?
It’s having more fun than I am.
Maybe the real hell is the life we’ve lived along the way.
Maybe this experience is just a higher being’s analog of Doom and we’re just cells in a petri dish running an MMORPG version it. Stupidest simulation theory ever, but hey man, we’re sorta doing it so how stupid can it be?
… Am I missing something, or is this not like, the practical, if not lore accurate first step toward actually creating a:
Next step, give it spider legs and a gattling gun!
I mean, Boston Dynamics figured out how to build essentially robot mules and cats like a decade ago, and they’re actually currently building and improving on humanoid designs.
They got basically acquired by/folded into Hyundai, you know, an actual manufacturing company, unlike Elon’s ongoing fradulent shitshows.
Why did hell have its own R&D department doing high tech cybernetics anyway?
What other advance industry does hell have. It’s obviously a highly capitalistic place, so I imagine banking/finance?
I mean, pick all your deadly sins, right?
Brothels, Restaurants, Blood Sports…
Raises uncomfortable questions about consciousness. The only difference between these neurons and your own are the number of them and the structures they form. Of course it doesn’t know what it’s doing, but… Neither do our own neurons
Do those neurons interact with hormones like mine do?
Finally, I knew when I saved this to my phone there would be a perfect moment. (Humanity is too predictable)
Attribution: https://lemmy.world/post/43077529
OK but hear me out here, I think I have the beginnings of a business plan:
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Create the Torment Nexus
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Profit
Some components of the plan are still under development, but let’s not lose momentum. We can advance with the initial phase while brainstorming to refine the plan in real time as we progress. It’s an exciting opportunity and we mustn’t forfeit our first-to-market advantage.
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Wait is it a real cover? Was it made before or after squid game? It uses the same font
Cortical Labs are the ones who pulled this off. They already have biological computers running on 800,000 lab-grown neurons available for ~$35,000 (just going on what a quick Google search told me) and are planning to open up a cloud computing service with its own API soon.
This makes me feel uneasy. Imagine if reincarnation were a thing and you get brought back into this world, and your purpose is to learn how to play DOOM.
“Do lab grown neurons have a soul?”
I would say consciousness is required for that, so no.
aw sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension 😍
There’s another bunch of guys who are trying to do the same thing with rat neurons on the cheap using Gatorade as a growth medium.
Ha, i understand why it would make someone uneasy but personally that sounds like heaven to me. Seriously,.take a slice of my neurons and hook them up to play doom forever, that’s what I want done with my remains. (I guess the rest of me cremate or something idc)
Computer Scientists: We can make Doom run on any device!
Bioscientists: Watch this!
Cosmologists: *cracks knuckles* Check this shit out.
We are old gods who punish life for fun.
Ah I see, so we’re adding the matrix to our dystopian horror show reality then.
*hell-spawned brain cell noises
So, uh… is it any good at it?
IIRC, it doesn’t actually pay the game itself. We prod the cells, they fire in a certain way and that response is read to convert it to an output for the game. The cells aren’t a rudimentary Doom bot, they’re the controller.
So no, then.
Iirc it’s slightly better than using a coin toss to fire the inputs. Fantastic for fundraising for this company tho
So we’re just going full head of steam into a combo of the torment nexus and AM
Torment Nexus but with a win condition
Am I the only one who wonders why, in a world where there are already concerns about machines rebellion, when we train rats, robots and a bench of neurons to play a game, it HAS to be Doom, we can’t think about another, non-violent, or let’s be bold: non-destructive game??
They trained a tiny patch of neurons to respond to low-voltage electric impulses. The cells don’t know they’re playing Doom. They don’t have any kind of social context or even video feedback.
Imagine if I stuck you in a sensory deprivation chamber, handed you an NES controller, and asked you to hit the buttons. Then, periodically, I said “Yes” or “No” based on the buttons you pressed. And when I pulled you out of the tube at the end of an hour, I told you “the yes and no messages were intended to encourage you to correctly navigate Mario through the first level of the original game.” What if, instead of Mario, I’d been telling you how to play Street Fighter?
It doesn’t matter if its Doom. They likely picked Doom because the I/O is so rudimentary that you can install the game on practically anything. The cellular matter has no idea what it’s doing beyond the “Yes/No” signaling.
I know there is no real association between the game and real life. It’s more a question on the mindset of the researchers. I’m sure there are other games that would fit their needs.
you can do the exact same thing with a cockroach. Organoids are not brains.
Tetris.
Pong.
“Scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should”
Micheal on his fictional book about sex changing lizards in an unconventional zoo.
That’s fucked up though. What happened to bioethics and review boards?
We don’t understand enough about human consciousness to say that those cells aren’t sentient. We have no idea what sort of experience, if any, they’re perceiving.
This is not okay…
I’d say they’re experiencing being doom guy but that’s just a guess
I’m no scientist but I’m pretty sure we know enough to say there’s no consciousness at this level. Consciousness as we know it is pretty fragile.
There may be a point if this is scaled up that could be a concern…
We do not, in fact, know enough to say there’s no consciousness at that level.
Anyone who tells you that is being intellectually dishonest.
The goal is to grow brains in lab and prevent robot cops to tear off their own faces
The end goal is probably a vat that billionaires can hook their brains into at the end of their lives so they never die.
That probably has something to do with their push for virtual reality and the ‘metaverse’ (fuck zuck for appropriating the greek language for his pet project; I used to use that word to describe a sort of hypothetical hyperdimensional multiverse where “spirits” inhabit 4D/5D topologies).
Oh and why they’re training AI agents in “environments” now (basically, 3D-scanned renderings of real life spaces).
If they can put all the pieces together before they die, then they can hook their brains into these computers and control a little avatar so they never have to die and can continue making our lives hell (at least as long as they maintain ownership of private capital, or until we seize the means of production and redistribute the wealth).
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Sounds like something from a horror manga.
I’m seeing the chimera from FMAB saying “Edu…wardo… koroshite…kure… onegai…”
