• kboos1@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    Because spicy is not a flavor. Spicy is more like an allergic reaction to a chemical that certain plants excrete as a defense mechanism. Humans are just weirdos because we enjoy our mouths and buttholes being on fire.

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      Plant: develops high amounts of capsaicin to ward off predators

      Humans: ooh, this would be great with chicken!

      Plant: am I a joke to you?

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        Similarly:

        Yeast: I’m going to eat all this sugar and produce a toxin that will kill off competing organisms!

        Humans: HAHA! Funny juice make head all silly…

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        It is not meant to ward off predators though. Being eaten is the goal, thats how the seeds are scattered.

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          It is to ward off mammals. Their goal is to be eaten by birds, birds can’t taste capsaicin, so it’s just normal food. And birds distribute the seeds.

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      28 days ago

      argument: we normally think of five flavors (salty, savory, sour, sweet, bitter) but without spicy the meal is not complete. shit, some people consider slimy a flavor and that’s fair.

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        28 days ago

        There’s also menthol and whatever compound is in Szechuan pepper.

        OMG, now I’m craving Mapo Tofu.

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          whatever compound is in Szechuan pepper.

          i ran out of coffee beans and tea just doesn’t cut it are we talking a different spicy? is it that numbing effect some people get?

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              i’ve eaten the peppers but never gotten the numbing people told me i was supposed to get to that’s why i’ve been confused relating specifically to szechuan peppers my entire adult life

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                The effect they’re talking about comes from the peppercorns, not the peppers. You heat them slightly in a pan and then grind them in a mortar and pestle. I run them through a fine strainer after that, but I dunno if you have to.

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    Spicy isn’t a taste or a smell, it is a sensation caused by the compounds lowering the threshold to activate of heat detecting nerves too below the ambient temperature of the human body. It’s basically making you burn your self.

    Lots of other “flavors” are also like this, lowering the threshold of firing for certain sensory nerves. Sichuan pepper for instance, it lowers the threshold for movement sensing, causing the bizarre tingle waving sensation.

    Those heat sensing compounds exist all over your body, not just in your mouth.

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        Not always. Black pepper contains Piperine which also effects the TRPV1 sensing protein like capsaicin, if a bit weaker. Horseradish, mustard and wasabi have Allyl isothiocyanate which affects TRPV1 but also TRPA1 which triggers pain cold and itching response, leading to coughing and tearing.

        There are a fair amount of other compounds that effect the TRPV1 and plenty of other similar receptors.

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    I see we’re having a debate about tasting shit. May I politely ask, would you like to “eat shit”?

    Personally, nah.

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      To some, hilarity.

      To others, science.

      To others, horror.

      To… Others… Pleasure :(

      I’m of the first three.

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    With the power of lactose intolerance, you too can regret certain non-spicy foods! Its usually pretty immediate though