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Here’s the thing though. When THEY need it, it’s ok. They’ll just pop over to the next state and nobody back home will ever know. They have absolutely no problem being hypocrites in any aspect of their lives.
They’ll just pop over to the next state and nobody back home will ever know
Not the poor ones. The poor ones die.
Class war, not culture war.
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Not if it was diagnosed in a regressive state.
The record of the pregnancy doesn’t go away and because any reasonable obstetricians that can, leaves the state they are likely to end up with the Christian™️ ones that will report them for murder.
Very fucked if you live on an island though. Not only do you need to be rich, you need a visa.
At least the Dominican Republic will be getting a new penal code this year that allows it in cases of life-threatening complications this year. Then you can pray that the courts let your doctor do it instead.
“Rules for thee, not for me”
“It’s okay. They’ll make an exception for me. Because I’m special.”
- Republican women
My conservative grandma who votes R every time because of abortion had an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy. When my mother was pregnant with me at fifteen, she offered her an abortion.
What’s her reasoning that others should not have that option?
She would never acknowledge the fact that she wanted me aborted, so it’s not something I’ve heard justified. This is a family tree defined by sexual violence, so there are a lot of topics which exist in that liminal space.
Republican women live in a world that is governed by fear and control. Abortion being an option removes that aspect of fear. There is something in it that works the same way a “kink” does, that if one follows the rules and takes the hurt, everything works out in the end. Why would you take out the hurt/is it actually a feasible option to take out the hurt?
But to actually answer your question, asking her the question would just not get a response.
I’ve read that conservatives model the world as “strict rules that have exceptions made on a case by case basis”. That maybe works if you’re in a small village. Smarter people realize that doesn’t scale and you should write better rules in the first place.
Oh but it does scale: Abortions are forbidden with the following exceptions:
- The carrying mother requests one.
- The carrying mother is in no condition to express her will and her pregnancy puts her life in danger, in which case we can refer to consent forms she would have already filled covering such cases, doctors and her family).
Republican Women: “Good, keep your legs closed, slut.” Wish I was joking.
Say the ones who:
Suffer miserably through being a trapped tradwife breeder banging out kids in an empty life of conformity.
Quietly take a trip out of state or out of country to deal with a pregnancy they kept quiet.
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Tell me you’ve internalized patriarchy without telling me you’ve internalized patriarchy.
Republican women: invokes double standard
Meme picture of kid on the ground with a boot on them but it’s their own hand in the boot.
Everyone should read Dworkin’s Right Wing Women.
nothing hotter than Christian hotwives with Stockholm syndrome
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And the GOP says: “OK, then you die. Sucks to be a woman.”
Yeah, I mean that’s just Jesus telling me to swap them out for a younger model. Blessed!
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Any termination of pregnanacy before the 20th week is considered an abortion btw. So if you were to miscarry it would be considered an abortion, take that as you will.
Oh, here’s the other time abortion is acceptable to Republican women: when they (or their daughters) fuck some guy that they shouldn’t (for whatever reason) and then get pregnant.
You forgot about when their shitty husbands fuck their secretaries or some underage girl.
For some yes, but for others, that’s just the punishment for the (insert derogatory term) who tempted/stole their husband.
I’ll just never understand how they look at abortion as murder of a human and then commit a genocide against some brown people somewhere else. Literal demons.
Because they see brown people as animals.
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Get fucked scammer
They view the foetus as a person, but not the brown people
That’s the idea, though.
Won’t work on them unless they’re actually in the process of dying.
Conservatives don’t care about being warned about things. They only care when those things happen directly to them and they have to actively deal with the consequences.
Remember seeing some pristine examples of this during COVID. Conservatives in the process of dying in the hospital and then start begging for help.
You think these fuckfaces give a fuck about their possible future health?
That image is terrifying
Its also the most attractive picture of a maga woman
That’s a lot of gender affirming care.
You underestimate how crazy fundamentalists are. For them, it’s worth dying if it saves the fetus, because for them a fetus is a living and breathing child.
This type of argument will never work though because guess what happens to an aborted fetus? They die. They. Die.
Like the discussion can’t be around “making abortions illegal means women will die” because those who are behind these kinds of laws would just argue the opposite “making abortions legal means children will die” because they consider life to start earlier than others.
The whole debate is around when a life is considered a life with one side saying it’s at conception and with one side saying it’s after 18 weeks or so.
(I am pro abortion btw, I am just tired of people thinking they can change anyone’s mind with arguments only convincing the already convinced)
In all the above situations, without an abortion, guess what happens to the fetus? If it’s not already dead, it will die. And yes, those people will say it was God’s will. (God’s actually a big supporter of abortion, He kills 25% of conceived fetuses, not to mention the babies he kills after birth.) But they shouldn’t get to call themselves “pro-life.” They’re ghouls. And the hypocrites would “get essential treatment” for themselves or their own daughter and walk out of the hospital to protest and deny the same treatment to other people’s daughters.
I know logic will never change them, but supporting and increasing the numbers of people in red areas who support the right to bodily autonomy will help convince politicians who care more about political clout than any ideals.
Even in nature, the mother takes priority. Biologically the mother is a massive resource investment. She can make more kids. So if its a choice between the mother and the child, biologically, ethically, and logically the mother takes priority.
Idk why im even commenting, like you said people are either pro-choice or theyre wrong, and theres no convincing them otherwise. I just desperately wish we had some way to segregate all the people that dont want the world to improve so they couldnt interefere with a functional society.
We need to wait for their daughters and granddaughters to die from this and hope that’s enough to tip the scale. Americans are a barbaric people.
“I’d kill a thousand women!”
"… ‘If it means saving one unborn child?’ "
“…”
What if the unborn child is going to be a woman?
She’s only saceificeable once shes past the age pedophiles are interested in her.
That’s fine… Unless that unborn young woman is also pregnant.
A ‘business’ contact that is on a social media that I have to use for work, posted essentially the opposite of this, claiming that none of these are abortions, and if your provider says that they are, that you just need to find another provider. Challenge here is that none of the providers are willing to take the risk…
Semantics, the true cure.
Ok, so science story time. I’m not a doctor.
The female human’s reproductive tract is somewhat loosey-goosey. There is a direct path between the outside world, through the vagina, through the cervix, through the uterus, through the fallopian tubes and into the female abdomen. Not literally, but figuratively the ovaries “float” in the abdomen, just outside of the entrance to the fallopian tubes.
While discussing this with a doctor once, I asked, “Since the ovaries are not directly connected to the fallopian tubes, when an egg erupts from an ovary, what ensures that the egg enters the fallopian tubes and heads to the uterus?”
She replied, “Not much. Occasionally the egg will stay in the abdominal cavity and implant there.”So think about that for a second. It’s not uncommon for a human eggs to float into the female abdomen, attach and begin growing. That’s called an “ectopic pregnancy”. If you know enough women who trust you, you’ll likely know at least one who’s had surgery for an ectopic pregnancy.
So think about that for another second. If you know someone who is against abortions, be sure to ask them how they suggest solving ectopic pregnancies.
If they don’t have an answer, consider what it would be like to die from one.
Wow, you learn something every day. I had no idea sperm could leave the fallopian tube and just start spinning around in the abdominal cavity. That’s scary.
