This type of argument will never work though because guess what happens to an aborted fetus? They die. They. Die.
Like the discussion can’t be around “making abortions illegal means women will die” because those who are behind these kinds of laws would just argue the opposite “making abortions legal means children will die” because they consider life to start earlier than others.
The whole debate is around when a life is considered a life with one side saying it’s at conception and with one side saying it’s after 18 weeks or so.
(I am pro abortion btw, I am just tired of people thinking they can change anyone’s mind with arguments only convincing the already convinced)
In all the above situations, without an abortion, guess what happens to the fetus? If it’s not already dead, it will die. And yes, those people will say it was God’s will. (God’s actually a big supporter of abortion, He kills 25% of conceived fetuses, not to mention the babies he kills after birth.) But they shouldn’t get to call themselves “pro-life.” They’re ghouls. And the hypocrites would “get essential treatment” for themselves or their own daughter and walk out of the hospital to protest and deny the same treatment to other people’s daughters.
I know logic will never change them, but supporting and increasing the numbers of people in red areas who support the right to bodily autonomy will help convince politicians who care more about political clout than any ideals.
Even in nature, the mother takes priority. Biologically the mother is a massive resource investment. She can make more kids. So if its a choice between the mother and the child, biologically, ethically, and logically the mother takes priority.
Idk why im even commenting, like you said people are either pro-choice or theyre wrong, and theres no convincing them otherwise. I just desperately wish we had some way to segregate all the people that dont want the world to improve so they couldnt interefere with a functional society.
This type of argument will never work though because guess what happens to an aborted fetus? They die. They. Die.
Like the discussion can’t be around “making abortions illegal means women will die” because those who are behind these kinds of laws would just argue the opposite “making abortions legal means children will die” because they consider life to start earlier than others.
The whole debate is around when a life is considered a life with one side saying it’s at conception and with one side saying it’s after 18 weeks or so.
(I am pro abortion btw, I am just tired of people thinking they can change anyone’s mind with arguments only convincing the already convinced)
In all the above situations, without an abortion, guess what happens to the fetus? If it’s not already dead, it will die. And yes, those people will say it was God’s will. (God’s actually a big supporter of abortion, He kills 25% of conceived fetuses, not to mention the babies he kills after birth.) But they shouldn’t get to call themselves “pro-life.” They’re ghouls. And the hypocrites would “get essential treatment” for themselves or their own daughter and walk out of the hospital to protest and deny the same treatment to other people’s daughters.
I know logic will never change them, but supporting and increasing the numbers of people in red areas who support the right to bodily autonomy will help convince politicians who care more about political clout than any ideals.
Even in nature, the mother takes priority. Biologically the mother is a massive resource investment. She can make more kids. So if its a choice between the mother and the child, biologically, ethically, and logically the mother takes priority.
Idk why im even commenting, like you said people are either pro-choice or theyre wrong, and theres no convincing them otherwise. I just desperately wish we had some way to segregate all the people that dont want the world to improve so they couldnt interefere with a functional society.
We need to wait for their daughters and granddaughters to die from this and hope that’s enough to tip the scale. Americans are a barbaric people.