• mesamunefire@lemmy.worldOP
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    My suggestion, get as many private copies of emulators you can before they go after all the Github ones. Seems to be more and more take-downs are happening lately.

    It really is too bad we dont have a federated github alternative. I know theres some projects in development, but I can see the emulator scene getting harder and harder to get into if popular repos go down. Decades of work, gone.

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      We do have a federated GitHub alternative. Perhaps not too mature yet, but it does indeed exist. Forgejo

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      Git is a distributed version control system. There doesn’t have to be a single copy of the repo on which everything depends. It’s a choice, and an understandable one, to treat one copy as authoritative, but there’s no reason to despair if it becomes unavailable. Any copy of it will do.

      What GitHub provides that’s hard to do without it is not the repository but the stuff that goes around it: issue tracking, communication tools, discoverability, etc.

      So if people take the distributed nature of Git seriously and make sure they all have a local copy of the repo, we won’t lose the repo itself to Nintendo’s actions. But we may lose the tools that make it easy to coordinate work on the repo.

      Before we had GitHub and issue trackers we had mailing lists and Usenet groups. Not as convenient, bit they allowed people to coordinate work on open source software without a central, corporately owned point of failure. Maybe we should be looking to the early days of FOSS for ideas about how to make these projects resilient against corporate persecution. Not for the exact tools but for decentralized ways of coordinating collaboration.

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        There are self hosted github alternatives, like Gitea for example. It takes 10 minutes to set up and it behaves like github/gitlab. So all to advantages can be kept.

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            Such a good analogy. I’d go further and say all laws are like this. They don’t actually stop anyone from doing anything, and they don’t even guarantee anything will happen to them as a consequence. They’re just lines on the road.

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      Get a device or two, as well.

      Your computer may very well get obsolete when it comes to software support.

      A handheld or console meant to be an emulation console won’t have to move through time. It’ll be as it is after the day you’re done setting it up, like a hacked console.

      Your PC has to keep up with web standards, codecs, online goings on but dedicated, offline devices do not. I may choose an SBC to do this to, and make a copy of the partition housing the emulators and boot drive for safe keeping.

      I also have two different raspberrypi emulation images. Since those are literally everywhere, it’s a sure bet you’ll be able to find one to put the sd card into, even years from now.

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          just don’t do it

          Oh, that’s a good idea. Never thought of just tossing my entire childhood and lifetime hobby away because a stranger thinks keeping up with less than a terabyte of old games is hard.

          Lmao. Some of us aren’t vegetables.

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              Get rekt by AAA cock, sheepdick. Pay that subscription lmao. Hail corpo!

              Sounds like someone couldn’t get past the retroarch GUI. Oh well, maybe they’ll put it on gamepass for you someday.

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                  You’re a special kind of…

                  Copypasted reply? Really?

                  Fucking hilarious coming from someone giving a blowie to Bowser. Or other than scrappy Nintendo, every other game company is a AAA slop-serving corpo in your delusionland

                  Nah, fuck them too. They don’t get a pass. They’re in the sack with the rest of the greedy shits. Nintendo doesn’t even make up the bulk of most classic romsets size, Sony does.

                  Ah elitism too. Figures. Are you going to say you Arch btw next? Which part of ‘I don’t give a shit about Nintendo classics’ was too difficult to get into your brain? Or were you too busy getting pegged by Princess Peach?

                  Is arch another tree you can’t climb? Pegged by princess peach?

                  (if you must know, yeah, my desktop runs arch)

                  Quit projecting, bro. Insults don’t have to come from so deep in the heart. I don’t need to know you that well 🤣

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          Just don’t play Nintendo games lol.

          Yeah, let’s just throw away everything and never touch childhood games or even games that you do enjoy on actual good hardware. Just because a stranger deems it necessary. Such as good idea /sarcasm

          That’s what I do.

          Alright, good for you.

          I didn’t grow up with these ‘classics’

          Here’s the reason, you might not want to play them now and others do. As someone who did grow up with these games, I love to play them but hate Nintendo and their crappy hardware.

          I can enjoy them through emulation and on a good PC. So I will (and others probably).

          and I don’t feel like getting into these as an adult. 🤷‍♂️

          Okay then don’t?

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      It really is too bad we dont have a federated github alternative. I know theres some projects in development, but I can see the emulator scene getting harder and harder to get into if popular repos go down. Decades of work, gone.

      There is Radicle which is a peer-to-peer forge.

      Edit: Don’t expect all the features of GitHub or Forgejo though.

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    People are missing the point of this article a bit - It’s not just about Nintendo trying to remove forks/backups of yuzu/ryujinx. It’s that they are trying to subpoena Reddit as a corporation for user data. They want to pursue legal actions against anyone discussing Switch Piracy online. And then ask yourself - Do you trust Reddit as a corporation with your user data?

    In addition to requesting records from Reddit, Nintendo’s filing also makes appeals for information from other companies, including domain registrars such as Namecheap and GoDaddy, along with firms such as Cloudflare, Github, Google, and Discord.

    Reminder, that you do not own your social media accounts and that corporations might end up sharing whatever you post online with whomever. Privacy and anonymity are not guaranteed.

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        Depends on which instance you use for your client, I would say. For me only discuss.tchncs.de gets to see my IP address, and Milan Ihl, our admin, as well as his Lemmy server, are in Germany.

        This means two things:

        • You can shop for a location of home instance that you deem Nintendo-safe
        • Nintendo would have to multiply its legal efforts many times over and through different jurisdictions if they wanted to get all users of a community, which might affect their effort-value-considerations.

        But I’ve probably doxxed myself with personal stories. Pretty sure a dedicated person could find my employer, the team I’m in, and my age.

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      I always wondered what data does reddit actually have? Even if they had IPs and people posting, I’m John Smith, how exactly is Nintendo going to prove anything in a court of law? IP is not a person, and talking about shit online isn’t the same as doing it.

      And most of all, are they going to sue and investigate 10,000 people?

      I don’t get any of this fear mongering. I think this is all just aimed at shutting down communication channels, they aren’t going to go after individuals talking on the internet

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    I have several copies of Yuzu in multiple backup locations. They’re all local. Fuck Nintendo.

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        No, just two copies of an appimage and an AUR package that I have extracted into a

        .pkg.tar.zst 
        

        where I can install it any time I do a reinstall on my system. I backed that shit up in like 4 places. Also, just found out that Suyu is still up and running. It’s being mirrored everywhere and you can still download and install it for Windows Mac and Linux. Got a copy of that, too.

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    The big ones:

    Now Nintendo is seeking the court’s approval to actually subpoena Reddit for user records. These records, if shared, could identify additional moderators or users tied to the r/SwitchPirates subreddits. Nintendo argues that these records are critical to building their case against others in the alleged piracy …

    In addition to requesting records from Reddit, Nintendo’s filing also makes appeals for information from other companies, including domain registrars such as Namecheap and GoDaddy, along with firms such as Cloudflare, Github, Google, and Discord.

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      Kinda weird that I’m rooting for reddit, a company I hate, against Nintendo, a company that usually brings me joy.

      But here we are.

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          On the other hand, r/switchpirates is transparently a community for the express purpose of pirating Nintendo games for their current system. It’s one of the rare cases where I think they probably can make a slam-dunk legal case to shut it down.

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              Nintendo is definitely overstepping with that request, but I can’t say I feel bad for the subset of Redditors shitting their pants because they admitted to distributing* ROMs. Trusting a corporation to protect you from the consequences of your actions is a level of stupidity beyond deserving sympathy.

              *Specifically distributing. Not downloading. Not discussing. Distributing.

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                Talking is irrelevant. It’s debatable whether they’re actually entitled to even compel the sub to be closed, as they didn’t allow links to anything infringing, and discussion is protected. I just ignored that because I don’t care.

                Nothing there says anything that indicates there is any effort to restrict the information gathering to people actively distributing anything on the relevant platforms. Trying to demand the personal information of participants in discussions without direct, explicit proof that that account actually distributed pirated content makes them bad people. It is not excusable behavior.

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                  Talking is irrelevant. It’s debatable whether they’re actually entitled to even compel the sub to be closed, as they didn’t allow links to anything infringing, and discussion is protected. I just ignored that because I don’t care.

                  There’s a distinction between talking about piracy and admitting to committing copyright infringement on a public forum: the former is discussion, and the latter is self-incrimination. It’s not going to actually matter unless that person makes themselves worthwhile to go after, but that doesn’t make it any less stupid of an idea to admit to it in the first place.

                  Trying to demand the personal information of participants in discussions without direct, explicit proof that that account actually distributed pirated content makes them bad people. It is not excusable behavior.

                  I’m not sure where you got the idea that I’m excusing Nintendo’s overreaching demands from. Nowhere in my comment did I claim that Nintendo is entitled to any of the requested information.

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            They used to be pretty strict about posting links. If that’s still the case, it’s literally just a discussion forum discussing and promoting something illegal and not necessarily doing anything illegal. I’ll wager that the judge would only sign off on information from users that Nintendo already has enough evidence against. But I guess we’ll see.

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        As a lifelong Nintendo fan, I’ve been rooting against them in pretty much everything for close to a decade at this point.

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      Subpoenaing Reddit for user records because some guy emulated a videogame made for your crappy handheld console.

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    Target them all you want, the links are on gdrive and mega and the owners will just move to advertising them somewhere else, Tumblr, throwaway eBay listings, Spotify playlists,… here.

    Entire romsets for gb, gbc, gba, N64, SNES, etc have all been on piratebay for over a decade, not to mention the 4-5 300Gb+ curated sets out there… wherever they are.

    Good luck there, Nintenbros. Keep swinging that axe. We’ll keep growing heads.

    It also helps that the golden age is over and each system now only gets around 10 or so exclusives worth a shit so there’s less Switch games needed for a good set compared to past generations. Thanks, Nintendo. Quality over quantity.

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      The main thing they are trying to do is make it more difficult to find this stuff via google, which tbh is still easy without reddit.

      But even Switch homebrew has been a pain. Most of it is one off software made years ago because no sane dev wanted to actually keep up with all the firmware releases and limited control of CFW. Github/Gitlab repos keep getting banned left and right for tools not even related to piracy.

      3DS has full fledged apps with teams behind everything and HShop which makes it very easy for everyone. Switch still doesn’t have a definitive method of handling NSP/XCIs, and all the auto download internet repos are invite only to hide from Nintendo.

      I’m really hoping someone finds some serious hardware bypass in their next console after what they did to the emulation scene. They really deserve to go through the insane R4 piracy age all over again for nuking everything online.

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      It also helps that the golden age is over

      Even the stone age is coming to an end - in favor of clay dicks. Talking about games.

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    I don’t think that it is illegal to talk about illegal stuff 🤔 but maybe in some countries, it is, who knows, at least not where I live

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        Conspiracy to blank requires at least one overt action, demonstrating that you intend to fulfill your commitment to blank.

        We could talk about doing blank all day, make plans to blank. Draw up little blank maps and assign blank duties. Until someone actually does something, it’s all just talk.

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            No but you still gotta prove it. That and freedom of speech is a thing.

            I can say I plan to go and do any old crime, I can talk about it with my friends who might give me ideas. They might even volunteer to help.

            Until someone actually does something, all we’re doing is talking. We’re protected by the first amendment, and it would be damn near impossible to prove we actually intended to do anything.

            Unless we’re threatening elected officials. They tend to embed themselves, push for the plot, and still wait until they make an attempt to act on the conspiracy that they’re kind of responsible for.

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                Notably, they had to actually show up at the house before the cops took any action.

                An overt action can be pretty simple, but it does have to happen.

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                Yep.

                My mandatory reporting is based on my interpretation of their intent not their actions.

                Sure, let the courts decide but that doesn’t quite equate to what precedes.

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    So what? Nintendo expects us to wait for their lazy asses to release older games?

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      Not only that. In South America, it is impossible to legally purchase digital Nintendo games. The only options are: overpriced physical copies (like, 2 or 3 times the original value), or create a US account (so, lying in the personal data) and buy prepaid cards online (also severely overpriced).

      For some people, piracy is the only option.

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    Oh, that says Nintendo. I thought Viacom was up to some shit for a moment there