cross-posted from: https://piefed.zip/c/enshittification@lemmy.world/p/1887579/man-discovers-his-parents-coffee-machine-used-1tb-of-data-in-10-days
IoT is the stupidest waste of technology
IoT could be great, but can’t be created by capitalism. If you hand e.g. Town Planning to the Ku Klux Klan and they just use it to screw over black people, that doesn’t mean town planning is bad, it means the KKK are bad and shouldn’t be trusted with jack shit.
The problem with the IoT is that the convenience/feature gains are marginal and commodifiable, whereas the gains from selling data are massive and direct to the manufacturer. Also there’s every incentive to lock down your ecosystem and avoid compatibility with competitors, and there’s no incentive to invest in security either.
You are wrong.
IoT is an invasion of privacy no matter who use it.
It can only be malevolent because what else will a coffee machine(or anything else for that matter) do on the internet but send data from your home to someone that is not you.
We have all lost our collective minds when it comes to relinquishing our rights to privacy.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
I don’t really get why everything need to be IOT nowadays.
I’ve read that the coffee machine use internet for being used remotely to get your coffee ready at the time you want it. Bro, it takes 15 minutes to use it directly.
If you want your coffee ready for an exact time, why not adding a simple as f$ck clock to the machine and set the clock for the especific time when you want it to make your coffee?
I admit that some things are pretty useful with IOT, but not a coffee machine bro, wtf?
I have a coffee maker that was made about 15 years ago and it’s got this novel tech called a ‘clock’ and a ‘timer’ that it can use to start making coffee for me 5 minutes before my morning wakeup alarm goes off, and keeps the coffee hot for 2 hours following. Somehow it doesn’t need internet.
it is so they can collect and sell more of your life to those that use it
If the clock is so simple why do I need to run the File System Security Check on it?
Anyone stupid enough to connect a coffee machine to the internet deserves a coffee machine that is connected to the internet.
Y’all know the first ever IOT device was a coffee maker right?
HTTP Status 418: I’m a teapot was added way back in 1998 as part of the Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol
As part of an April Fool’s joke.
Joke or not, part of the standard.
Wasn’t it a live view of the coffee pot so people could know if it was full or empty?
The first webcam ever (even predating the Web) was the Trojan Room Coffee Pot Camera. Scientists wanted an easy way to check their coffee status without having to run up and down the stairs. The Hypertext Coffee Pot Control Protocol April Fools RFC was inspired by it.
Technically internet connected though
Edit: Though it turns out no, the standard was developed (as an April Fool’s) but never implemented. But later folks have done multiple implementations of it, ranging from temperature detection to automated button pressing and coffee monitoring
wtf are you torrenting now, coffee pot???
Smegma porn from jauffre
This article is extremely short, misleading, and ultimately pointless.
The owner of the coffee machine was unable to determine why it had generated approximately 1 TB of network traffic in just 10 days. However, the data reportedly remained within his own Wi-Fi network and was never transmitted over the internet. The owner himself acknowledged that it was likely some kind of error, software malfunction, or defective unit.
More importantly, he admitted that he never investigated the issue further. Instead, he simply unplugged the machine and replaced it rather than attempting to determine what was actually happening.
So what, exactly, does this article accomplish? It provides no technical explanation, identifies no underlying cause, and offers no evidence that the manufacturer was collecting, transmitting, or doing anything nefarious with the data. It presents an unexplained technical anomaly and leaves the reader to draw their own conclusions.
The implication is obvious: look at how much data this coffee machine is generating! What could the manufacturer possibly be doing with all that information? The article encourages suspicion without providing the evidence necessary to justify it.
And the irony is that the sheer volume of traffic makes the most sensational interpretation less plausible, not more. One terabyte of data in 10 days is an extraordinary amount for a coffee machine. Without knowing what the traffic consisted of, the most reasonable starting point is a software bug, a malfunctioning device, or some other technical error, not a manufacturer secretly harvesting an unprecedented amount of information about someone’s coffee-drinking habits.
Could there be a legitimate privacy concern? Certainly. But establishing one requires examining the traffic, identifying its destination, determining what information was being exchanged, and explaining why. None of that appears to have happened here.
Instead, we are left with an unexplained anomaly, an owner who chose not to investigate it, and an article that invites readers to fill in the blanks with their own conspiracy theories.
If the goal was to inform readers about the privacy risks of connected appliances, the author had an opportunity to do so. Instead, the article generates suspicion without generating any meaningful understanding.
That is the real problem with this kind of reporting: it teaches people to be afraid of technology without teaching them how to evaluate the evidence. There is a legitimate conversation to be had about connected devices, data collection, and consumer privacy. Stories like this do little to advance it.
That is the real problem with this kind of reporting: it teaches people to be afraid of technology without teaching them how to evaluate the evidence. There is a legitimate conversation to be had about connected devices, data collection, and consumer privacy. Stories like this do little to advance it.
Journalists are supposed to be the ones evaluating the evidence. It’s not “we report, you decide”.
It’s not even bias on the side of the journalists. It’s malicious laziness. Facts don’t matter, only the ability to click on an article. We’ve made journalism so competitive that this is the end result of capitalistic enshittification of all news.
Of course, it’s also the job of users to look at a “news” source like Dexetro, realize its reputation is shit, and move on.
As usual, the voice of facts and reason is in the minority. Almost everybody else is off on tangents.
Look at you mr fancy pants, coming in here with rational thoughts. “Maybe they could have actually done real reporting bla bla bla.” We all know what you are. Youre just trying to cover up for the real culprits: the high fructose corn syrup industry trying to find out what we put in our coffee. Youre type make me sick.
Dude it’s not even that like it took me significantly more words to explain how bad the article is and how long the actual article is.
And people aren’t going to actually read the article they’re just going to look at the title and be like oh my God conspiracies!
Look at this guy righting complete sentences
Why net connection for coffee machine, to download recepie for coffee?
You spelled racipe wrong
Why give it the wifi password on the first place?
You’re trying to hook up, y’know? These things happen at a certain point in a boys life.
Probably a “smart” coffee maker.
Like I say about smartphones, they are only smart when conpared to the users…
I love it when someone tries to make a snide comment, calling other people stupid, and makes a flagrant spelling error.
I love smartasses… Same principle.
Will you make out with mine? I like tongue in my smart ass
Just put on there it connects to the internet to get the freshest electrons for your coffee and boomers will give it WiFi, their credit card number and one quarter of their children’s inheritance
It’ll even reverse your mortgage, which Tom Selleck approves!
It is considered rude to not give guests the password I beleive.
so you can make coffee from anywhere in the world, and for firmware updates and to get the latest brew styles.
He found that while the coffee maker had generated 1TB of traffic, most of it stayed within his parents’ home network rather than being sent over the internet.
“This is likely a bug with this unit,” he explained. “It did saturate my AP, that sucked.”
In simpler terms, the coffee maker was generating so much traffic that it overwhelmed part of the home Wi-Fi setup.
I’ve seen multicast amplification bugs flood an AP like that
As consumers, we’ve got to start saying no to connected devices that really don’t need to be connected (and most don’t need to be connected anyway).
I have a microwave and a washing machine that have the ability to be connected to Wi-Fi that will never be connected to my Wi-Fi.
I cannot personally fathom why they would ever need network access.
I honestly think that some smart devices could be really useful. But, there are 2 major changes needed before they’re worth buying:
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Meaningful privacy laws. By default any device should be locked down otherwise the companies are in deep trouble for privacy violations. Any agreements you make to allow them to do something should be ones you can easily revoke at any time.
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Right to repair / modify anything you own without any issues. If you buy a Samsung washer with “smarts”, the same store that sells you the washer should be able to offer you alternative firmware from a number of different vendors. If the washer breaks, you should be able to fix it yourself, or hire someone to fix it, whether it’s a mechanical fix or a software fix. If you want to go in there and modify it yourself, or go online to some standard site to download a new feature, you should be able to do that. It your hardware, you should have full control over it. Same with printers, which would end the expensive ink fiasco. Same with Apple’s app store monopoly.
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And then we have to ask the question, why the fuck would a coffee machine, much less a fucking Kureig that just produces crap by default anyways, need to be connected to a network to begin with.
Honestly, it’s such a hassle now to buy anything, even a decent stove, that doesn’t have or worse yet require a internet connection and a shit app.
I read some comments elsewhere that they think it was hacked by a botnet. The idea being that it’s easy to block a one source during a DDoS attack, but much harder when its coming from hundreds of fucking coffee machines. lol.
There is no such thing as a botnet, kid. There’s no sasquatch, either, but we like to tell kids things, like Santa Clause visits once a year, and that’s why you have to be good for 1/12 of the year.
The title of that text makes no sense.
- Data can’t be used up, only stored, transmitted, read, written etc.
- No transmission allotment from an ISP was used up either, as the traffic was sent locally.
Bandwidth
For that the unit is wrong.
Don’t put that evil on me Bobby
I think they’re confusing it with capped cellular data usage
Yeah there are such limits sometimes, but they write that it didn’t leave the house network, so they knew better when they made the title… I don’t know just seems like clickbait.
