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    I cannot think of any way a coffee massive machine could be improved by connecting it to the Internet.

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      You mean you dont need your machine to tell some ad brokers to contact you about needing to buy more coffee soon?

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    It’s probably running a proxy server so the company can sell your internet connection to the AI scrapers.

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    In the 1970’s I had a smart toaster that would pop the bread up to let me know it was finished with it’s toasting task. /s

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    He found that while the coffee maker had generated 1TB of traffic, most of it stayed within his parents’ home network rather than being sent over the internet

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      So probably pinging the entire network with discovery packets multiple times per second and doing nothing with the result.

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        Not doing nothing, actively searching and sending infrequent updates, as what appears in these networks in sellable data as this can track who is in the home, how many people, who lives there who just visits who lives nearby, what kind of smart tv or other iot devices are connected etc…

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      Going to be? The vast majority of appliances are still sold without this nonsense.

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        Yes. It is a guess. I’m using TVs and kitchen appliances as a basis for that guess.

        Which, shame on me, I should go look for data on this. Someone has to have some statistics on it.

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    What I’m somewhat curious about is that typically to what degree are smart appliances usable without their app & the network.

    I have a smart air fryer & a smart scale. Neither has been set up to connect to wifi or my phone & both work just fine …

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      I think in most cases it’s added functionality and convenience at the cost of privacy, sure the scale is still gonna tell you how much you weigh, but what if it automatically saved that to an app so you can track your weight loss progress without writing it down manually (as long as you’re OK with some company also having that info so they can share ads with you for weight loss products to help you reach that goal faster without allowing you to build the habits to do it right.

      Isn’t it nice that you can just ask your fridge if there’s milk in it while you’re at the store rather than hoping you have milk, or assuming you dont? Disregard the fact that Samsung is using that fridge to know whether or not you’re home right now, if you have an iPhone, or what kind of smart TV you have. It’s still a fridge, it still keeps things cool, until a firmware update breaks that of course, guess you just need to buy a new fridge, it’s been a couple years anyway.

      Sometimes (though not often) the smart appliance is cheaper since they know they’re gonna make money on the data.