The Knight First Amendment Institute argued as amicus that searching expressive and associational content on phones demands a First Amendment warrant. The Second Circuit rejected that argument, holding that neither the Fourth nor the First Amendment carves out a special exemption for phones at the border.
Wow. Yeah… We all need shitty travel phones with very little on them now. That’s fucking gross.
Or don’t travel with a phone at all. Take a digital camera and use that for pictures.
Anything else, just buy a used phone at your destination and load all your accounts on that, then delete and reset your phone and sell it before you leave
Take a digital camera and use that for pictures.
They’ll search that too! Take an analog camera instead. At least that way you get the film developed for free ;).
The Second Circuit rejected that argument, holding that neither the Fourth nor the First Amendment carves out a special exemption for phones at the border.
Could it be because the technology was still 250 fucking years away?
That was my question too…
We all need shitty travel phones with very little on them now.
Or don’t travel there.
I unfortunately live in this cesspool of a country
Looks like it’s time to carry a dummy phone with you if you decide to visit the US. Not really sure why any non-citizens would want to do that at this point though.
Interestingly, iOS 27 has a new “2 phones can share 1 number and you can swap between them” which didn’t seem to make a lot of sense.
What in the what now? Just between apple phones or with android or other OS? Guess I hafta go read…
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/iphone-handoff-one-number-two-phones/
But The Apple documentation (https://support.apple.com/en-us/127274) mentions that your iCloud gets synced between both devices, so now I’m confused what the purpose of this is
It’s so you can buy more phones
Dang, I had other ideas!
What you need:
Two devices running iOS 27 or later that are: Connected to Wi-Fi Sharing the same Apple Account Using Messages in iCloud to ensure messages sync Signed into FaceTime and iMessage with the same Apple Account An eSIM from a carrier that supports iPhone Handoff: USA: T-Mobile Germany: Telekom
Haven’t actually tried it but T-Mobile digits supposedly let’s you do what you seek.
New to me, thanks!
it makes sense in the backdoor sense. esims. so now uncle sam can “be” that 2nd phone.
Uncle Sam could always be that 2nd phone, the network is ridiculously insecure. It’s so well-known, the spooks didn’t even stop Veritasium from making a video on it. Hell, it doesn’t take a state-level actor either, it takes a motivated individual and that’s pretty much all.
if you decide to visit the US.
There is a lot more reasons not to do that than there are reasons to go there.
I’m not even sure why would they even need to see your phone.
All these idiots use cloud, just requesting data from iOS/google is sufficient in most cases. I think they don’t even have to ask, they gotta have direct api access.
Remember to turn off all biometrics for unlocking your phone, if not now, then at least when traveling internationally. They can scan your face or your fingerprint without a warrant. But they can’t compel you to provide potentially incriminating information including passwords, codes and patterns. Self-destruct codes will likely get you arrested for obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence though, so use those at your own risk. I wouldn’t recommend it.
Best to never keep anything you wouldn’t want a cop or fed seeing anywhere on your device. If you have any materials that you wish to keep private, store them elsewhere as much as possible. Either never store them on your device or regularly back them up somewhere secure and wipe your device clean. Make sure all remote access to those materials are behind secure encrypted password protected connections.
Remember, know the law so that you may follow it to its letter and no further. If you must comply, comply. If you can, don’t comply. Know your rights and practice them. Never volunteer information to law enforcement even if you’re innocent. You don’t know what they know, what they are wanting to hear, what can be misunderstood, confused or contorted to put you into trouble. Every day is shut the fuck up Friday. Nobody will protect you but you.
My pin is eleven digits, a number I’ll never forget, and I enter it every time. No face ID for me.
Also, don’t call the cops unless getting arrested is better than whatever is happening. Because, they’ll use any excuse to arrest you no matter how innocent you think you are.
How long until they’re caught planting fake data on phones to arrest people they don’t like though?
That kind of thing has been happening since the 90s.
wipe your device clean
This will be seen as a red flag and get you a few nights-weeks stay in the Gulag.
I don’t mean wipe your device of all data. I mean wipe any of your sensitive data. Keep your texts to friends, photos of your daughter, apps and stuff.
My institution has a travel warning to the US.
We cannot cross the border by car, only in airports.
We cannot travel without a phone, with a burner, or with a wiped phone. We have to memorize our lawyer’s number when we are detained. We are told we have no rights and have to comply to any request, this means bend over. Fuck that. No more US travel.
Don’t blame you. Shits fucked.
I don’t know how a self-destruct code will work, but if you have password A get into profile A, while password B gets you into a plausibly looking and normal profile B while profile A and password A get deleted, then you can claim your phone was always and ever the way profile B shows it. It doesn’t look or feel “destroyed.” It’s just a normal profile with mundane messages, browsing history, contact list that makes sense, etc.
Good luck proving that anything fishy happened when the whole operation looks and feels like unlocking a normal phone.
You can even setup biometric login to be password B. So if someone gets into your phone with a fingerprint, which feels very normal, they see a normal boring and completely plausible profile.
There is absolutely a way to make phones secure if there is enough will.
That said, it’s a political problem that’s begging for a political rather than a tech solution.
One day I’d like to perform at Carnegie Hall…
As a us citiczen I’m more and more looking at my phone as a hostile device. I have Graphene on one phone and an iPhone, but with how things are going these days who knows how secure these devices really are. Apple iOS is a black box. Android is not much better, and they’re now faster than laptops and most desktops. They can be running and recording and reporting anything and still sip battery life. I’ve since deleted social media apps outside of lemmy and HN. I use my little e-reader more than my phone. All my personal stuff is in encrypted cloud that is not iCloud, I don’t use biometrics to unlock it. But I still don’t trust it. I’m beginning to think carrying it in a foil bag until I need it is a good idea.
I agree, it’s not a tool, it’s a compromised and dangerous device and I have to carry it with me carefully. I have always turned off my location from time to time and carefully managed permissions, but nowadays here’s what I do:
- Graphene
- no biometric login
- no stale data on the device. If I won’t need it while I am mobile, does it need to be on my phone?
- location off, BT off, and airplane mode when going into grocery stores or any surveillance a happy retailer.
- factory wipe or alternate phone before traveling internationally, especially to countries with questionable rule of law, including my own
- minimal non-FOSS apps (getting less every time I redo the phone)
- any app that has a usable web portal or can be accessed on desktop only (Facebook, reddit) does not get installed.
- no pairing with cars or other BT devices that are known to be sketchy.
If I controlled the software on a deeper level, I would set it up to have a toggle where it will only connect to the cell network every 30-60 minutes. There is little in my life that is more important than a half hour response time, so why am I continuously broadcasting my triangulated location? I would have that toggle turned on 90% of the time.
This is nothing new. I don’t agree with it but people are acting like this was rolled out yesterday. Unless we can reverse the supreme court ruling on it, nothing will prevent them from searching phones at airports or within 100 of borders.
This ruling was specific to people entering the country, if you aren’t entering the country they need a warrant still.
unless they “mistakenly” think you are a foreigner.
The pic shows that tiny little guy with the big nazi coat. I thought the tiny little guy with the big nazi coat got fired.
Lol of course not. If you have a big Nazi coat you just get put on paid leave for a little time out, then you get your shiny job right back.
If I’m going down for a meme then you can bet your ass I’ll be doing my best to sink my teeth into some throats like I’m Rick fuckin’ Grimes as soon as my phone is taken. In for a penny in for a pound.
Is this part of their tourism strategy?
I believe they are hunting tourist and working on the commercialization thereof.
Are those directing ICE also involved in human trafficking?
Are they involved in anything else?
I’d imagine that would be a pretty safe bet, but I’m not sure what you’re referring to.
This will really fix that lost tourism problem.
It would be so easy for me to laugh this off and say, “duh just don’t go to the third world country that is the USA,” but anything they do will spread to other parts of the world.
Maybe wipe an old phone and just have signal to communicate with family until I cross the border? I wouldn’t even mind paying a few bucks to make a new signal account without a phone number.
When traveling, carry a flip phone and a digital camera.
Got it.
This is what happens when you allow conservatives (fascists) to have control.
This is why it is your responsibility (duty) to do whatever is most likely to prevent that from happening.
Not if I never travel to that shithole country again.
