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    Then they removed their ads from all channels below 8,000 hours, right?.. Right?!

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    Reminds me of that woman who made science videos on both YouTube and Pornhub and she makes more money on Pornhub.

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      The end result is that channels will just post twice as much slop to get to those hours

      Slop doesn’t get return viewers, which is counter-productive to reaching a watch hours (or subscribers) threshold.

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    I used to display Google ad links on my site, they accumulated value - slowly, but Google would only cut a check when you reach $100 worth of ads shown. My earnings approached $100 like an asymptote, halfway there in the first 6 months, 3/4 in the first year, 7/8 in the second year, 15/16 in the third… never did quite reach $100, and so my payout for all my effort and showing of their ads remains to this day $0.

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        2 months ago

        And when you have “proof” they fudged their numbers, how exactly do you make the monster pay? It’s definitely a rigged game.

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    2 months ago

    Don’t worry, guys. After creators eat THIS shit sandwich it’ll stop getting worse and everything will be great.

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    And they will never stop extracting more value. I just want to prop nebula here, it’s great for creators and there’s a lot of them already on there.

    The only thing ‘missing’ is the commenting system, but to me that’s an upgrade.

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      Comm Systems is essential for the community pointing out mistakes or wrong doings

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      2 months ago

      Nebula is awesome. I took a gamble with them and bought lifetime during their second round two years ago and never regretted it. It has only been getting better, here’s to hope that they keep direction.

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    2 months ago

    Keep moving the goalposts so YT can just keep more of the ad money for themselves and the line moving up. More enshittification, nothing new is created but the service gets worse in the name of profitability.

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    2 months ago

    Why I just push Patreon or another platform fuck trying to earn money through YouTube that worthless.

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      I’m honestly surprised they don’t charge for cloud storage for YouTube. Yea, they suck, but also who needs every piece of garbage uploaded in 4k?

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        I’m honestly surprised they don’t charge for cloud storage for YouTube.

        That’s more how Vimeo works. The creators pay a monthly fee (for uploads over a very small threshold of storage) and have the option to PPV paywall their videos.

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        likely because they know no one would pay for it. YouTube would die overnight(in terms of content creation). The only people remaining would be the people like Markiplier or the huge content creators that made it big way early on, and even then, I think you would expect heavy resistance against the big content creators just because they’re gonna be the ones that are fronting the majority of the bill just due to how many videos they have uploaded.

        YouTube would have better chance of survival requiring a subscription to watch the platform than if they were to try to get content creators to pay for storage, it would be content source suicide.

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      No. This is just how capitalism works; you steal from the smaller ones while allowing the bigger ones to be the “draw”.

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      Small creators cost youtube more than they earn.

      Youtube ads are sold by auction, and there is very little bidding interest in small channels with small audiences. The advertisers want as many eyeballs as possible.

      But a small channel’s videos cost youtube the same amount to store as a big channel’s videos.

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    YouTube became evil the moment we all dislike-bombed their year in review video and they never made another one.

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    Today I went on shorts and the first video was tucker carlson dropping antisemtic slurs while he cried about ben shapiro. I’m a lib. I don’t watch that garbage. straight up shithole company.

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      You’re going to need to specify the alleged slurs. Too many people chalk shit like “Israel shouldn’t get to murder children” as anti-semitism.

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          He is a white supermaist so Jews are not the only group he want to supress. Muslims are the biggest target of remigration calls

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            Yes sure but the point is the way in which Carlson does antisemitism is the very traditional style, with the conspiracy theories about jews running the world and the charicatures and so on. Nazis famously didn’t love other non white people either, I understand he has plenty of hate to go around. But he is a legit antisemite unlike most people who get called that these days.

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              Just like tucker spread conspiracies against Jews, he spread conspiracies against Muslims and other group. Can we stop putting a ranking on which type of racism is more important?

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                It’s not about what racism is more important. Don’t put words in my mouth. As if happens, in this moment anti Muslim hate is actually globally much more important than antisemitism but that has nothing to do with the point I’m making. Just talking about one thing doesn’t mean it’s more important than another thing. IMO it’s quite meaningful to understand the various flavours of right-extremism, it explains a lot about the tensions between the various factions for example. There is currently substantial division on the right about whether to support Israel because they are killing Muslims or to hate them as well because they are Jews, and you may not care or want to think about that, it’s perfectly valid, but the way it plays out will have serious political consequences and effects on the lives of many people

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        i don’t even want to say it but I get ya and no, it was like a term nazis would use when referring to Jewish food. I just think it’s so incredibly fucked up that the youtube’s algorithm was pumping that vid while a million other vids exist. Unreal.

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    Work for free before getting paid! There will still be ads on your videos, but they ain’t sharing the attention money.

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    I know nothing about how YT works. How is 20 million shorts views in 90 days a viable number? That seems ridiculous.

    I guess they’ll keep pushing it till the line starts going down.

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    I had a video of a newsworthy event a while back that went viral, and I made over 5 grand on it over the course of about 2-3 years when YouTube changed its monetization policy to require like 10k subscribers or something before the creator could monetize.

    The video didn’t stop getting views. It had a spike in views just a few weeks ago when something similar happened in the same area. But I haven’t made any money from it in like 8 years.

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    What is the best social media platform for niche content creators? I’m thinking of starting a small project for one of my hobbies but I’d hope to make at least enough to pay for my setup (mic, camera, etc.). Is that unrealistic?

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      I wouldn’t count on it, my wife has been trying to the best of her abilities and at the limit of our financial reach…it’s been 10 years so far, 20k on insta and recently picked up YouTube which was now getting close to getting paid pennies…but not anymore it seems.

      You either have to get lucky or have the funds and means to keep pushing yourself into the system until you trip over success.

      My wife had a single sponsor which paid her €20 per month but being sponsored by them led to her followers expecting her to behave like customer support 24/7.

      She now has this co-op with a printer resin company where she gets a percentage of each sale…she made zero in the past 10 months of pushing the product.

      At least she’s happy for being able to share her interest and hobby with a fuckload of other people.

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      What is the best social media platform for niche content creators?

      Like it or not, youtube still has the biggest audience and the best discovery algorithm (even with it’s flaws).

      And, even with this latest change, still pays better than other platforms.

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          Sure but how do you get on Nebula?

          As far as I know it comes from having an established YouTube presence first.

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            Yeah, unfortunately is the only way. If peertube worked with monetization it maybe would be a better place than youtube.

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              It’s also a matter of audience. Part of what lets Nebula work at all is the built-in audience for the creators that are there. Same with droput.tv and c5.now and even means.tv.

              Peertube will work better as more and bigger creators cross-post to it. Another challenge it faces though is scaling and yes, monetization since there’s no subscription system through the platform by default.

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      If youre doing niche hobby stuff why are you even talking about monetization? This is for people who dont have a real job and trying to make it in youtubes version of hollywood.