If you don’t push your vehicle with your own physical strength, you can only suggest/“point” a car
Fred Flintstone may have been an asshole…but he sure knew how to drive!
I like you :)
Look at this amateur with power steering, automatic choke, and an electric starter.
Plenty of motorycles in this world with none of those things. You’re telling me you need a roof, too? I used to ride mine to school in the snow and the rain. Uphill, both ways!
If you’ve never used a hand crank to turn the engine over, you’ve never really started a car.
I mean- technically this is 100% true and I’m on board
Pfft, amateur.
If you can’t manually adjust ignition timing and air:fuel ratios you can’t really drive a car.
Are we talking points, HEI, or injection? I don’t often have my laptop with me for the latter.
Early cars had controls for ignition timing, sometimes on the steering column.
Yes, they did! My grandfather’s Ford did. I thought it was throttle when I was young because it made the engine sound change!
Oh, we’re gatekeeping driving?
No, and if you learn manual, you’ll know what we mean!
If you can’t shift gears faster than 120ms you’re inferior to the automatic already.
You think f1 drivers are fucking around with a clutch? Get off your horse and realize everyone and their half siblings have moved on.
This is from a crusty guy who taught many a fine lady how to drive the ol stick shift. That was such a great pickup line.
F1 doesn’t use torque converted automatics or CVTs. They use much faster transmissions.
This is kind of, by-definition, wrong, not just unpopular.
For the simple reason that even though I only tried to learn manual once, I can drive any electric car without issue.
Hell even before that, some people could drive trucks or buses or motorcycles, but not all people with driver’s licenses could.
If we came up with a different word for driving other types of cars, then it would make sense. But we didn’t, so driving just refers to the broad concept of operating various types of motor vehicles, usually at relatively high speed, but not exclusively.
And that’s quite frankly because even without manually operating a clutch, driving is still a huge skillset that most people struggle to excel at.
Just for kicks I’ll throw in my unpopular opinion: “If you have to use 1st gear then you don’t know how to drive manual”
Manual transmission is the norm outside of the US
Call me the car whisperer, then! 😅
Up voted because it’s definitely against my opinion.
I can drive manual, have done for over twenty years. I now own an EV which doesn’t have “gears”. It’s just a single clean line from standstill to top speed, no shifting necessary, manual nor automatic. Just press the gas and it goes.
I’m still driving. And I know how to drive manual, as I mentioned.
I’m just using other means now:
- press pedal to go forward
- release pedal to go slower/brake (*)
- press buttons to (de)activate cruise control (CC)
- press buttons to adjust CC speed
- press buttons to adjust CC front car distance
- keep track of CC deactivating if at a standstill for too long
- keep track of CC not being able to activate until over 16 km/h
- remember that using brake pedal deactivates CC so it needs to reactivate or you need to take control of the throttle manually
- button to reactivate CC at old speed rather than setting new speed
- button to activate CC at new speed rather than old speed after deactivation, if desired
- button to switch between CC lane keeping assist and manual steering
(*): this is actually harder and requires more feeling and control, because you’re not really brute-force braking as with the brake pedal — it’s more akin to motor braking with a combustion engine. That’s the feeling. So you have to know the timing to release the pedal, and how far to release it for braking as smooth as possible. And the muscle memory of “okay motor braking isn’t enough here, gotta use the actual brake pedal”. And this happens very rarely so it requires more cognitive overhead with these cars.
So it’s actually a lot more shit to worry about and understand than in my previous, manual shift car.
Shifting is just a product of the engine. This new engine doesn’t need it, so I’m not driving now?
Bullshit. 😉
When driving stick I engine brake for most of the time I’m decelerating. If I need more brake I downshift, less brake up shift.
Actually I do the same in my automatic. My drive to work isn’t prone to random traffic jams so I have enough time to engine brake for most of the drive. Just sub 15mph when I have to actually brake. I’ve actually learned how much I need to press the brake pedal to turn on the lights without actually braking.
Same actually. Rarely did I use the brake on my automatic unless I actually wanted to come to a halt. Same with manual, with the addition of decelerating for a turn off a highway and such rapid changes in direction. 👍 Eco driving!
Well, the transmission is just manual with 1 gear in an electric car. I’m cool with electric cars with an “auto” but I’m never buying an auto ICE car.
Well, the transmission is just manual with 1 gear in an electric car.
I feel like that’s maybe some slightly misleading nitpicking. 😄 There’s no need for a gearbox at all, the electric motor just delivers power and torque smoothly across the whole range of speed, so there’s no shifting whatsoever. 👍
I’m never buying an auto ICE car.
What exactly is an “auto ICE car”, for the uninitiated (me)? 🙏
I feel like that's maybe some slightly misleading nitpicking. 😄 There's no need for a gearbox at all, the electric motor just delivers power and torque smoothly across the whole range of speed, so there's no shifting _whatsoever_. 👍Yes, that’s kinda the same thing. I just tried to say that that’s why I’m fine with electric cars but not automatics. I wouldn’t be able to stand not having control over what gear I’m in, but if there’s always torque available, it’s fine.
What exactly is an "auto ICE car"Automatic internal combustion engine car.
That’s the thing with automatic ICE cars, you mostly don’t need to control which gear you’re in.
If you pass the gas pedal deeply enough, it will shift down automatically to provide the required/requested torque, e.g. when making a pass around a car on the motorway.
They also have gear modes that limit the upper gear to first, second, third, etc, so you can tow stuff, or get out of a ditch, or snow, e.g.
Auto cars are so comfortable, honestly. You just press the pedal and that’s it. If you need control on the off chance, it’s also still available in different ways. 👍
Is it as satisfying as dropping to 3rd on the highway though? Iono, man. Feels pretty good!
More satisfying in my personal opinion. 🙂 The driving is so unbelievably smooth with an EV, if you want it to be. It can also be more “revvy” than a combustion engine car (the electric motors are stronger, so faster acceleration).
It’s a sweet deal if you care about driving comfort. 🤩
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top quality shitpost here.
Actual operation of the vehicle is about 10% of the skills you need to be a good driver. Source: am former driving instructor that taught manual.
