Due to a (now former) admin of the instance anarchist.nexus calling for a member of our team, as well as anyone else they call a zionist, to be murdered, the instance has been defederated.
We’re currently discussing how we will proceed with this situation and whether it will affect lemmy.dbzer0.com, which is mostly run by the same admin team, notably excluding the person who used to be on the anarchist.nexus admin team.
We will share further updates once we have them.
Update 2026-04-22 23:25 UTC: anarchist.nexus federation has been reactivated.
We are still discussing this matter, but there is currently no point in keeping anarchist.nexus defederated while lemmy.dbzer0.com is federated.
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Hey there, Kaplan.
So, this is quite clearly now just a witch hunt by you.
For anyone else who is curious, this is what happened.
A user by the name of Luminous was an admin on Anarchist.nexus. They banned MrKaplan from a community for posting zionist apologia. Luminous also had ‘Kill all Zionists’ as their display name. MrKaplan took this as a personal death threat. Instead of speaking with any other admin from Anarchist.nexus and reporting the behavior, MrKaplan instantly defederated from Anarchist.nexus.
In the next couple of days, Kaplan messaged other users/admins of Lemmy about the defederation and suggested defederation to others as well.
It was then posted about in the Piefed matrix channel. This led to PugJesus, someone who I abhor, actually saying something I agree with.
The conversation moves elsewhere. One bit of input that stands out is this. It will become important in a second.
In basically every situation, Kaplan is told that they’re wrong or overreacting but Kaplan cannot see past the ‘death threat’ to their own mistake.
So, I messaged Kaplan. Conversation goes on and one thing is made clear
Kaplan never spoke with anyone and ran all of this off of an assumption. There was inconsistencies in how the different people felt because they were different people and not one organism. What was individuality instead came off as obliviousness and Kaplan took it personaly. See what I mean by it became important? Kaplan is talking about a ‘lack of moderation’ over something that Kaplan literally never reported or talked to anyone about and instead just made assumptions over.
@Ruud@lemmy.world, this is what you’re backing. You went out of your way to make an instance that wasn’t going to be reddit and you went ahead and re-created Spez, an admin who personally takes out their own feelings on anyone that they don’t like and is trying to control the narrative of the entirety of the fediverse.
Friendly reminder to everyone. Check back a couple of months ago on this community and look at the post about JordanLund. A moderator who was openly lying to the admins in public but the admins took weeks to decide to do literally nothing. But a single user on another instance meant that MrKaplan was able to defederate it all.
This behavior from Kaplan is, quite literally, the reason that I left lemmy.world.
Don’t believe me? Here’s the last message I sent Kaplan during the Jordan garbage.
Funny. Jordan requires a ton of deliberation, reasons in the TOS, and you’re all ‘working on it’ but a single user says something you don’t like so instant defederation?
Edit: Quick note but every other post on this community has been featured. This one isn’t. So you’re making an announcement but you’re not really announcing it. Any response to this, Kaplan?
Edit 2: Kaplan is just blatantly lying. As demonstrated above, Kaplan has literally zero evidence of this claim other than things “feeling odd”.
Edit 3: Serinus joined the thread 15 minutes ago and now a number of my comments are being removed for ‘misinformation’ despite the comment above proving them to be categorically true.
you unilaterally defederated from Anarchist.nexus days ago.
this bears repeating, this announcement comes days after, presumably when they realised that woops i guess we also have users that might care about this?
This is what a managerial outlook, “making tough decisions about the future of this project” looks like.
Correct.
The action for defederation was taken days ago and the community was not notified at all. That was the problem PugJesus actually had. Kaplan just treating this like their own personal fiefdom.
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Question: What alternatives do you recommend compared to Lemmy.world?
Oh there are a bunch of great ones if you wanna stay on Lemmy, and I do recommend staying on Lemmy at the moment. At least until a De-Rimu’d fork of Piefed is available. He’s been having… a time lately and that time seems to involve a lot of misunderstandings at best or outright misinformation at worst. Combine that with weaponizing his platform… eh.
For Lemmy, Dbzer0 is a good one, as proven by the fact that they have handled this with more grace than anyone else at the LW team. Quok.ka (I’m probably fucking up where the period is or missing a letter) is also a solid one with great admins. Blahaj.zone has really protective admins if you’re queer and tired of dealing with bigots. Those admins tend to be a wall that deals with a ton of shit and deserve all the praise for the crap they see to protect others from. I mean all admins do but them especially with the level of bigotry. Lemy.lol just had cm0002 take over so that’ll be a good spot for memes, why I started posting there recently. Lemmy.ca seems to be pretty reasonable.
I do not personally recommend lemmy.ml but I don’t condemn those who use it or the admins. Just personal differences which is how lemmy be. Startrek.website has actively abusive admins and wouldn’t recommend there either. Hexbear is… hexbear.
I’m sure there are others off hand but my brain is currently a soup
From what I saw, the ‘call to murder’ was someone having kill all zionists in their username, and that only makes sense as a real call to violence if we’re supposed to take everyone’s username seriously and literally. That would be a very weird world to be in, as then we’d have to accept that we’re reading posts written by Star Trek characters come to life, inanimate objects, and various bodily fluids. Without evidence of something worth taking more seriously, at best this looks like the admin team doing something silly, and obviously certain groups of Lemmy users will interpret it less charitably and as the LW admin team being pro-genocide. Neither is a good look.
My handle is serious. Deadly serious.
Same dude.
Hello 😏
I mean, isn’t that what conservatives always do? Every horrible remark they make can always be taken back as “just a joke”. It’s like floating a weather balloon to gauge public reaction.
Surprise surprise Lemmy isn’t entirely different from Reddit in that:
- It kills a community over the name of one user (yes I’m aware it was an admin)
- Said admin had beef with this user, which they conveniently left out in their post description
- It’s got shameless hypocrisy too where calls to death from zionism is acceptable but not the other way around
For the record, I am not for calling anyone’s death as that’s not my thing, but have some consistency hypocrites. Smh.
The site structure can only do so much when what you hate is certain users. The idea of lemmy is that other instances can be free from the unjust actions of users on one instance such as this one-- which is a success.
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a lot of lemmings like to dog whistle by saying they would not shed a tear if all zionists or anyone not protesting against them were killed
because they are cowards
the tea is all over yepowertrippinbastards, and i gotta say i agree with the prevailing sentiment. mrkaplan is making a bad move, but its indicative of a pattern of politically based moderation that pervades .world.
but its indicative of a pattern of politically based moderation
No, you know what, keep the typo; it’s correct.
it’s not a typo, but I can see the syntax is unclear
despite pretending neutrality, .world bases it’s moderation on political motivations
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love when they try to poison the well and encourage dog piling. shows they are truly grounded in good faith. /s
despite pretending neutrality, .world bases it’s moderation on political motivations
Do you wanna just get the “muh freeze peach” part over while you’re at it and save us some time? You just say they’ve feigned neutrality but then never back it up because a) you know it’s provably horseshit, and b) it doesn’t matter because you’re trying to separate things into political and apolitical categories that fundamentally do not exist and – as we all know from conservatives pulling this schtick for decades – only hurt the victim by silencing what you determine to be “political” speech and actions.
Yes, it’s political that an instance admin called for another instance’s admin to be killed; yes, it’s political to defederate from them in the sense that everything about social media and group dynamics generally is inherently political; no, I don’t think it being political is a bad thing like you’re pretending to. I’m sure you haven’t raised a squeak whenever an instance would choose to defederate from a hateful, far-right cesspit; the reality is that the person feigning care about neutrality here is you.
Edit: Oh, they moderate a Jill Stein community. Their unhinged behavior below makes way more sense now.
you know, you don’t have to defend the admins. they’re not going to suck you off.
wow, this screed doesn’t at all debunk the accusation of overt pro-zionist moderation
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jill stein is anti Zionist, too
Dropped that whole “political” thing like a rock, didn’t you? You never said anything about “pro-Zionist moderation”; your only two comments that I replied to were whinging about “politically based” and “political motivations”, and now you’re pivoting with no acknowledgement, because you’re fundamentally arguing in bad faith.
If your problem is their specific politics, you can be upfront about that, but you deliberately chose not to, and you’ve proven discussion with you is not worth anyone’s time because of it.
zionism is obviously a political position, and the mods have feigned impartiality about it while moderating anti Zionist sentiment away. you are splitting hairs and it’s unbecoming. your shitty attitude is also damaging your case here.
your shitty attitude is also damaging your case here.
Tone policing too – as though I need my argument to be compelling to somebody who intentionally layers their argument under conservative-style misdirection, and pretending as though failing to mince words to your liking hurts the credibility of my argument.
Edit: Policing my tone out one side of your mouth while remarking “[the admins aren’t] going to suck you off” out the other is so pathetically expected.
you’ve proven discussion with you is not worth anyone’s time
I am confused. If the admin in question is no longer an admin, what’s the need for defederation?
Because this was their goal and the admins was just the excuse they’re using to get rid of another instance world can see
defederation was done while this person was still an admin
Will the two instances work to refederate now that the (former) admin is no longer in power?
No the Lemmy.world admins continue to vigorously project their insecurities.
I see. Thank you for clarifying; the timing was unclear in the original post.
But they’re not of dbzer0. So where is your justification for claiming that you are talking about defederating with them? Oh right. Literally none.
This is honestly pathetic. If the admins want to have an argument at least leave everyone else out of it. Defederation should be an absolute last resort not your first port of call when someone disagrees with you
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100%
It’s always admin drama that leads to this. Look at any of the major instance defederations and it is always a disagreement that isn’t resolved because the egos of the admins involved almost immediately turn the conversation into ‘agree with me or else’ instead of any kind of real dialog.
In this case, the person calling for murder in their username was removed as an admin so the issue seems resolved.
Zionism is bad tho
Zionism is bad, Ethnonationalism is bad, Murder is bad, War crimes are bad, Genocide is bad, Racism is bad
Many of the people involved in this conversation are toxic assholes who need to touch grass.
Have you considered raising this with the admin team before defederating?? Or with your userbase?? I don’t wanna hear shit about hexbear is aUtHoRiTaRiAaAaAn when they have a vote before defederation instead of just throwing a tantrum and reflexively defederating a whole-ass instance because of personal drama between two admins.
Yup, this guy gets it. This decision is bad enough that I think the admin who did it should be removed. Someone in a position of high authority should be held to a HIGHER standard, not a lower one; if there is significant distrust, even if it’s from less than a majority of the userbase, they should be removed.
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Have you considered not being Zionists
That would mean the end of Kaplan’s ego, so no.
Okay, but was the person accused a Zionist? If so, why not eject/defederate/ultimatum them instead?
I’d prefer a federation of rabid anti-Zionists than one of Zionists. It’s the Nazi bar analogy, because EVERYONE should be against Genocide.
Yes notoriously so.
So long as they’re also anti-Russian imperialism in Ukraine (genocide) and anti-Chinese imperialism in Taiwan (also would be genocide).
I notice many of these tankies suddenly have much to say defending these countries with atrocious records and blood on their hands as well.
Edit: Case in point. If there’s one Xi/Putin supporter at a table…
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And you have proof? Because everyone has proof of .world’s actions of censorship and removal of Palestine issues.
I don’t have any. If you and everyone else have so much, would you share some with me?
we are not zionists. if you call for zionists to be murdered and then call us zionists that is a call to murder us, despite a lot of people claiming that it’s “just a harmless political slogan”. this is normalization of mass murder. we do not tolerate genocide or other murders either, which is also an accusation that a lot of people are throwing around here. accusations of zionism, mostly from dbzer0/AN users, are constantly thrown around against people that they don’t deem to be radical enough.
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I’m sorry Kap, but you are 100% a zionist and you don’t get to argue that. You simply don’t get to claim you aren’t one when your actions speak otherwise.
When it comes to the whole ‘murder all zionists thing’, this just kind of proves the point that you are a zionist in the first place. No one who isn’t a zionist would fly off the handle into such a petty rage like you have. There’s also the fact that you’re silencing voices, refusing to allow people to speak, and using collective punishment on the entirety of dbzero and anarchist nexus due to the actions of a single fucking individual.
Yeah. You’re a zionist Kap.
You are a Zionist.
Lmao they permabanned me for this, and then days later unbanned me. I didn’t ask to be unbanned. This is what regret looks like.
Does Israel have a right to exist?
In an ideal world where this could happen in a peaceful way? I wouldn’t see an issue with that.
In our current world where it seems that the only way for it to exist is one involving mass murder? Absolutely not.
Ok so you don’t think israel has a right to exist and it’s existance requires mass murder, that’s good to hear!
Do you think that this state should be dismantled then (through force since that’s what’s apparently necessary) to be replaced with a free palestine “from the river to the sea”?
You have a user in this exact topic defending israeli genocidal actions that minimize the nekba claiming most palestinians left with no pressure. I reported multiple of his comments. You did not remove a single one of his comments. In fsct, besides one or two lemmy.world community, zionist posts never get removed. You may not be a zionist but you surely tolerate it
Lol, The FAF takes weeks of deliberation, and a public vote to defederate feddit.org and we still get shit about being “authoritarians” or “manipulative”. L.W. just YOLO defederated an anarchist instance on the flimsiest excuse and…crickets.
https://lemmy.world/comment/23357345
He’s now arguing nuance and investigation for being shown a mod called for violence by saying kill a criminal but still.
Jfc they are just going off the plot here
I messaged Kaplan privately and Kaplan is seeing nothing but red. I updated my original comment to show some context. But Kaplan just went ham and instantly defederated because of a perceived sleight and has been going on a rampage against everyone since. Meanwhile there are serious discussions happening behind the scenes for other major instances to defederate from lemmy.world in response.
Kaplan is threatening to nuke one instance and, in response, will manage to have lemmy.world effectively embargoed to death.
Kaplan is threatening to nuke one instance and, in response, will manage to have lemmy.world effectively embargoed to death.
Sounds like a win for everyone honestly
It’s the natural state of leftists to fight amongst each other and never accomplish anything, together (but apart).
Idk seems clear cut right (lw admin and mods) vs left with the right being the aggressive ones.
You, Kaplan and lw administration very clear on being the right
You are not on anybody’s left
Zionists aren’t on the left.
Removing comments calling out hypocracy on admin actions is apparently also the natural state here.
But censorship is good when they do it
You can tell by how this comment section is completely whitewashed. Absolutely no controversy here, and nothing at all critical of admins.
Check your modlog removal history, sorry you have memory loss.
Hi👋 Happy I switched to dbzer0 the last time LW defederated your instance. 😁
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your next tankie
I have reported youre brigade community !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com to the admins
hope you enjoy tankie sloppy thirds because that is all you will get when the largest threadsiverse instance blocks you
I have reported youre brigade community !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com to the admins
incredible ben shapiro energy
Be careful or they’ll report you to mwog!
your next tankie
You’re*
Guess I need to move instances
I mean, the great thing about Lemmy, Piefed, and MBin being federated is there really isn’t a reason not to try different servers and services till you find the one you like best. Not like post history and karma mean anything here. Besides it’s nice having a backup account in case your main instance goes down for maintenance or gets DDOS’d. No reason not to have other accounts. Unless you’re doing it for ban evasion, or harassment, vote manipulation, or similar reasons ofc.
Except at some point if many instances defederate many other instances you cannot get the whole picture from any of those. Destroying the whole point of federation.
Federation is a strength if played right. If played wrong, like defederating a whole instance for a personal issue between admins, federation becomes a weakness and a deterrent for people who just want to have some fun to want to join or stay in the fediverse.
Is it actually moving instances or just making a new account on another instance? I’d want to take everything with me including history, is that possible?
Unfortunately, no. Fediverse allows you to cross-comment on other instances from your “home” instance you’re logged into, but you have to make a whole new account on another instance to move.
So wait you’re just defeterating an entire instance just because the arch Zionist of this instance is having a bitch fit? I’d rather just get rid of him. Can we do that instead?
Honestly, with comments in this thread being removed by mods and the delays and prevarifications over this defederation, I’m starting to think LW is run by children.
Do better.
Streisand effect.
Dederates to protect ego and censor. Only makes post when people ask questions after days of nothing publicly. Then also doesn’t make it a real announcement.
People say it’s a bad move to censor things. People then get censored for saying it’s bad to censor things.
A lesson in why .world shouldn’t be taken seriously.
It is impressive and sad to see how much one of them, ie the one removing comments, is trying to argue it’s everyone else’s fault they are abusing power.
Also unsurprisingly actual bad comments are left up
It’s mostly half a dozen very loud people who have a particular agenda.
The previously defederated instance has 165 total accounts, lifetime.
Oh well as long as you’re only bullying small instances. Carry on!
Wouldn’t want to ban Lemmy.ml for saying Zionists should die. Would you?
Bigger means stronger and that means it’s justified!
The previously defederated instance has 165 total accounts
The heck does that have to do with anything?
So it’s okay because you’re bigger than them, got it. Have you guys defederated from HilariousChaos yet? Or is the open Nazi talk comfortable with you?
I’m embarrassed I donated $10 on the last donation ask if these two are the quality of admins Lemmy tolerates.
I’m outie.
Oh no someone said something controversial on the internet, what ever will we do?
Remember when world nuked the piracy community lol.
Unless that instance is causing brigading, what’s the point of banning over a former admin with such a tame username.
The Lemmy.world team are Zionists. It is a direct death threat against them. We all know internet names are legitimate. MrKaplan has had to go into hiding due to fear for his life.
Lemmy.world not beating the allegations of harboring Zionists
Because they never remove Zionist advocates
Friendly reminder that they took weeks to do literally nothing about JordanLund, a moderator who was abusing his position to the point of being banned by multiple other instances. But a single user of another instance means that MrKaplan is allowed to defederate an entire instance.
