I’ma convert 'em all

Thanks buddy <3 I try my best to not have them all be shitposts. Or at least contain those to the right community lol

Oh my god I forgot about that instance

Option 1: Endless Memes

Option 2: Endless Star Trek memes

Option 3: Defending Star Trek: Discovery and other newer Trek productions

Option 4: Bitchslapping the Startrek.website moderators

Option 5: Throwing occasional hissy-fits on Ye Power Tripping Bastards

Love you buddy <3

Nah. From the several communities I’ve set up and been running with just me and my main guy Cm0002. I didn’t actually post in 10F at the time. All the guys there have it on lock and I’m glad for it! Love them <3

I pulled something in my back yesterday so I’ve been laid up in bed in pain all day. Othwrwise I’d be at it now too

Boo fucking hoo.

This caught me by surprise, to put it mildly.

So you weren’t fucking informed about this ahead of time?!

I didn’t rip anyone anything. I’m just fucking disappointed.

Yeah I saw it when it was edited in. Sat here for 2 hours trying to think of a response and I came up with one alright.

I’ve written off Lemmy.world as ever giving a serious consequence to anyone. This update is not remotely acceptable and you well know this. You gave him a warning? Well let me remind you of the fact that you already gave him one. You even said as much publicly. You said you talked to him and told him he was wrong on the Canadian thing and then 3 hours later he turns around and publicly says he has done nothing wrong and has repeatedly doubled down.

This is a perfect demonstration of the fact that he does not care about your warnings. He doesn’t listen to them, he doesn’t take them into account and that you have absolutely no bearing on his decisions.

The admin team has either reached a level of incompetence that I genuinely do not believe exists considering I know a bunch of you or you’re all compromised for some other reason. Whether that’s because you rely on him too much for everything and literally cannot function without him, whether you’re too close friends with him and not actually caring about any reports from users or whatever other reason. But I cannot take you guys seriously when you’re not taking yourself and your own rules seriously.

This administration decision is a fucking joke.

@ruud@lemmy.world you said that you didn’t want Jordan to be the face of Lemmy.world? Well too bad dude. This decision just permanently cemented that Lemmy.world ignores overwhelming evidence of abuse and either actively condones/supports abusive moderators or, at best, doesn’t care about them at all. However this isn’t your best. You’ve seen a constant amount of evidence dripping the entire time he’s been the moderator and you’ve warned him before and he didn’t care. Now you’re doing the same thing when you already know it doesn’t work and if you’re taking the same action and expecting a different outcome? It’s not insanity. It’s willful incompetence.

Not to mention the fact that your cowardice is so extreme you just threw this bomb into the lap of @JonsJava@lemmy.world and @Tenthrow@lemmy.world. You are now forcing them to become complicit. You pushed all judgment over to them. You did not have their backs AT ALL but instead HUNG THEM OUT TO FUCKING DRY. I have no idea where they stand on it but I do know that I’d be pretty pissed if I was them and I do know that as an average user? It makes you admins look even worse than you refused to make a decision and instead passed it onto someone else.

I cannot say this loudly enough.

Lemmy.world is just the Reddit version of Lemmy if this is the way you’re fucking behaving. And I, for one, wanna play no part in it.

Hey, you asked <3

So in Canada we use different political terms than the Americans do. One of these is usage of the word ‘Government’. In the US, Government applies to the whole general moving structure of the United States. In Canada the word Government applies to the ruling party specifically in much the same way that Americans use the word ‘Administration’. Jordan was not aware of this.

A user commented that a particular person was not a Member of Government, referring to the fact that they were not in the party that currently forms the Government of Canada. Jordan Lund removed this as ‘Misinformation’, claiming that the particular person was an elected member of parliament so calling them not a member of government was flat out misinformation. Important point to note is this was on the World News community. An American with incomplete information about something removed a comment under the guise of misinformation that was about another country. Personally? This is kind of annoying. But it dropped into rage inducing territory when he repeatedly doubled down.

The comment removed:

Unfortunately, this guy isn’t even a member of the government. He’s a backbencher in our third biggest political party. OK enough guy as far as I know, people in the NDP usually are, but he’s basically a nobody. Calling him a “lawmaker” is about as generous as they could get.

Even through context alone it should have been made clear how the word government was being used but Jordan was either incapable of grasping that or refused to. He was called out on it and doubled down on his stance. Multiple users educated him on the subject but he refused to engage with anything that proved him wrong (this is a continuous problem of his). Months later he said the same thing again. Again, multiple users proved him wrong. Once again, he refused to engage.

A couple of weeks ago, I made a rather large post that detailed numerous things that he has done. Like a ton. In the comments, someone brought up the Canadian thing again to an admin of LW named MrKaplan. Kaplan said

[…] we have already discussed topics like the Canadian politics one with him in the past, as we also don’t consider it acceptable what he did back then. Source

3 hours later, Jordan again doubled down.

They doubled down, with the idea that even though they are elected and can vote, they don’t count as a member of government because they aren’t part of the ruling party. Which is utter and complete nonsense. They are getting a government paycheck, they are a “member of government.” Source

Small sidebar but the Wikipedia page for the Government of Canada says this:

Under Canada’s Westminster-style parliamentary democracy, the terms government and Government of Canada refer specifically to the prime minister, Cabinet, and other members of the governing party inside the House of Commons, but typically includes the federal public service and federal departments and agencies when used elsewhere.[7] This differs from the United States, where the executive branch is referred to as an administration and the federal government encompasses executive, legislative, and judicial powers, similar to the Canadian Crown. Source

In that moment Jordan proved one of two things. Either that the admins had never actually talked about the issue to him or (more likely) that he did not believe that he did anything wrong so he ignored anything that was told to him.

He does not accept differing information than that of what he believes, he moderates through an American lens and refuses to take the differences of other countries into account and he repeatedly doubles down on an inaccurate retelling of events as well as an inaccurate definition of the term Government inside of Canada. Doubling down even when an admin publicly says he’s wrong.

This single event alone proves that he is incapable of impartial moderation of /c/World and needs to be immediately removed. Months of this going on and months of this insisting he’s correct while admins publicly say he isn’t. It was this specific inaction by the Admins of Lemmy.world that caused me to move off of the instance. I couldn’t tolerate them willfully accepting American misinformation about Canadian politics being pushed on a WorldNews community. This entire release saying that they’re going to look into things and then decide is, frankly, a joke. He was publicly contradicting something the Admins privately told him and doing the thing they told him not to. They have the ammo they need to from just this one moment stretched over the course of months.

He won’t listen to them and follow the basic rules they laid out yet they will not remove him while he actively violates the TOS of Lemmy.world. At that point there is no justification for the inaction of Admins. Absolutely none. I grant time needed to review, sure, but it’s been essentially 2 weeks since I made that post public in which they said they were already reviewing his behavior for days. Half of a month is not needed for this decision and I can’t stomach this any longer.

No but it was obvious to the admins. That’s the important thing here. This information has been kicked back to the top for a while now. I made a post pointing out a ton of things he did. Dudes list of crimes is so long I left a ton out of that post.

This link will keep you on Lemmy.World, if you so wish. Handy tool in general. Lemmyverse.link

Following our instance rules, we have a few cases in which we may remove community moderators from their communities:

1. Grossly committing a violation of the Terms of Service

Alright so I looked at those Terms of Service.

1.1 - Attacks on People? Check. He’s repeatedly gone out of his way to harass people as demonstrated both via his modlog and the litany of comments he’s left on YPTB

1.2 - Discrimination of Minorities? Check as demonstrated by the fact that he’s been banned from the entirety of blahaj for transphobic behavior.

3 - System Disruption? Arguable considering he’s permanently ruined any credibility that /c/News and /c/World had and has driven so many users to actively avoid lemmy.world at all possible costs. Myself included now.

8 - Misinformation? Check. Removing someones post for a lack of understanding is one thing but you said that you (Admins) talked to Jordan about his behavior on the Canadian thing. Meaning that you knew it was wrong and had told him it was wrong. He repeatedly and continually doubles down on that specific thing. That is misinformation. Misinformation that is then being enforced with the abilities of a moderator. Which also then slides into 1.1 - Attacks on People as he’s actively lying and punishing a dude when he did nothing wrong.

We are still discussing whether we consider his behavior a “gross violation of our ToS”, as there are definitely some arguments to be made in favor of that.

At this stage there are no valid arguments to be made against it. The evidence is overwhelming and has been piling up for months and months and months and months and months.

This is a complete no brainer. You have admins of other trusted instances refusing to have anything to do with him. You’ve got whole swaths of users that are outright boycotting Lemmy.world as a whole and I’m not talking about my random dumb ass. I mean for literal years I’ve been asked why I set up on Lemmy.world. This entire experience has not done anything to sway anyones fears but has done a lot to reconfirm them.

Edit: It’s been 5 days. No update to this post. Yeah… something is definitely gonna happen alright.

Thanks!

And it definitely can’t hurt to check

That’s fair and sort of where I’m at with all mine now

The more the merrier, my friend <3