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    • Mar 3: “We won the war.”
    • Mar 7: “We defeated Iran.”
    • Mar 9: “We must attack Iran.”
    • Mar 9: “The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully.”
    • Mar 11: “You never like to say too early you won. We won. In the first hour it was over.”
    • Mar 12: “We did win, but we haven’t won completely yet.”
    • Mar 13: “We won the war.”
    • Mar 14: “Please help us.”
    • Mar 15: “If you don’t help us, I will certainly remember it.”
    • Mar 16: “Actually, we don’t need any help at all.”
    • Mar 16: “I was just testing to see who’s listening to me.”
    • Mar 16: “If NATO doesn’t help, they will suffer something very bad.”
    • Mar 17: “We neither need nor want NATO’s help.”
    • Mar 17: “I don’t need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO.”
    • Mar 18: “Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz.”
    • Mar 19: “US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz.”
    • Mar 20: “NATO are cowards.”
    • Mar 21: “The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don’t use it, we don’t need to open it.”
    • Mar 22: “This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait”
    • Mar 22: “Iran is Dead”
    • Mar 23: “We had very good and productive talks with Iran.”
    • Mar 24: “We’re making progress.”
    • Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.”
    • Mar 26: “Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away.”
    • Mar 27: “We don’t have to be there for NATO.”
    • Mar 28: No major quote
    • Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing
    • Mar 30: “Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences.”
    • Mar 31: Claimed a deal was “very close” and that Iran would “do the right thing”
    • Apr 1: “We’ll see what happens very soon.”
    • Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not
    • Apr 3: “Something big is going to happen.”
    • Apr 4: Said Iran must comply “immediately” or face further consequences. “Tuesday 8 PM ET”.
    • Apr 5: “Open the fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah.”
    • Apr 6: “We can bomb the hell out of them”
    • Apr 7: “A whole civilization will die tonight”
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    So, hey, Americans, your president is openly threatening genocide. You might uh, want to do something about that. Just a thought.

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          If that’s mind boggling then you really need to read an actual history book.

          Life for the avg America is FAR from problematic enough to have riots start yet. Even our worse off tend to have just enough care from other Americans to be upset but content. We are taking care of our down trodden just enough.

          You need starvation, active destress, or wide spread unemployment.

          We have food it’s just expensive.

          We arnt in active physical danger.

          We have just enough jobs that groups of people arnt massing together.

          End of the day the very same message of help your fellow man, do good in your community and decades of social safety nets put into place. Are doing their job of allowing the American people to coast by happy enough.

          If you want riots then you need to start making people physically miserable, scared and hungry.

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            We arnt in active physical danger.

            You arent in percieved active physical danger.

            If trump launches a nuke boy that sure will change lickity split tho

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        Simultaneous angry mobs outside the white house and mar-a-lago could be nice. I would come out from California to join that.

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        Who supports him?

        Who supports them?

        I think the application of pressure goes where its possible to apply it, instead of where it isn’t.

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        Work together with independents and disenfranchised republicans to primary 75+% of the democratic party over the next 4 years.

        The GOP and the DNC are the sword and shield of the wealthy elites respectively.

        Not a short term solution, but the best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago. 2nd best time is today.

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        “I want to make everything possible to stop this government- as long as it doesn’t make me involved in anything “ “I live too far from everything to do anything “ “Our politics doesn’t work that way, you don’t understand that” “We are the land of free and all the guns and something “

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        Go find the richest person in your local city.

        You have one, they exist. Probably several in the same area.

        Make it their problem.

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          Can you plan and execute an insurrection in less than 24 hours?

          Most people couldn’t even get to DC with less than a weeks notice.

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            “we can’t do it in 24 hours, so we are not gonna do it at all” - that’s a new one

            Funny (but not in a good way) reading all the different kinds of excuses Americunts come up with to justify their inaction when their officially elected corrupt fascist pedophile president threatens to wipe out an entire nation in a genocide.

            I bet you also don’t have the time because you need to go to work, right? This one excuse was used quite often.

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              you need to go to work

              As a side note, the usaian culture about work observed through internets is just… absolutely bonkers. Everyone is constantly complaining how terrible their jobs are, how they suck them dry emotionally, physically, financially - yet even if nukes were flying they’d probably still just meekly say they gotta go to work

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              I’m curious how it is you know that Americans aren’t already talking and planning insurrection, since it likely takes weeks to months to plan out. You just know, I guess. If some disingenuous Eurocunts halfway across the world don’t see direct evidence of what would be necessarily hidden activities, well then…

              It’s almost like the most egregious and non-sensical anti-American comments in here are indistinguishable from the world-class paid trolling efforts of a couple of major players we’ve all heard of.

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        Then what was the point of all that 2nd amendment talk? Was it all bullshit cause you wanted to keep your pow pow?

        Guns and no balls, Thats what’s so dangerous about the regular American.

        Like I said elsewhere, your country was won by fat farmers and regular people who grew balls.

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          It was always bullshit the joke used to be they would be helpless and guns useless against a corrupt government. And as we learned it was always projection they want to be the corrupt government.

          Everyone’s to broke to travel and it takes 8 hours to drive across Nebraska

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          Jesus tap dancing Christ, man… It’s an illusion to make people believe they’ll always have the power to stand up. It clearly works, considering you’re quoting it and blaming the average citizens fighting back and going unnoticed because you couldn’t find the time to realize they’re trying to barely scrape by themselves. Blame the leaders who have a face, not the average citizen who’s actually protesting. Not everyone can light themselves on fire in public protests to appease you.

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        Its been proven that the impeachment doesn’t do shit. Infact the last time we impeached our president he was allowed to run and be elected again.

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        Unanimously supported or is it again an isolated democrat move? Asking because it’s kindof annoying to let USA delete a whole civilization…

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      The US has been openly genociding trans people within its borders and no one cares. People turned out for Palestine and Venezuela to the extent that the state allowed them to, but have been seemingly silent on Cuba. Genocide is as American as the Kardashians.

      To be clear, I’m not talking about politically savvy users on Lemmy. You’re not the problem. The problem is the “white moderate” that MLK talked about in his letter. The problem is the apoliticals who complain about having to take the scenic route to Starbucks because of protesters on the streets. It’s the so-called “adults” who treat politics like an optional sport. It’s the people who have never heard of AIPAC, and who act surprised to learn that the US is at war. Those people need a good wake up slap.

      The cultists are too far gone, the only hope for them to rejoin civilized society is literal cult deprogramming

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        Look, I agree with every one of your other points, but to say that “the US has been openly genociding trans people” is ludicrously stupid. Yes, some of the states are making anti-bathroom laws, and some of the states are making laws about not allowing medical/therapeutic support to minors for transitioning, and the federal government is making anti-trans executive orders about colleges… but genocide? Seriously?

        Don’t water down the use of the word genocide. It’s a very serious thing that is currently happening and supported by the US, but that is not what is happening with trans people. Yet. It might happen with the way things are going, but not yet.

        Most people on here gave Jewish pundits shit for calling 700 Jewish deaths in the October attack another “holocaust” and “genocide.” We give those same people shit for not calling 70,000 Palestinian deaths a genocide. Don’t be like those people.

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            or, to put it another way, what are we supposed to do when we can’t go out in public because we don’t wanna get arrested for using the bathroom? what are we supposed to do when we are stripped of necessary healthcare that we NEED to survive? when our passports and driver’s licenses are revoked? when bit-by-bit we are erased from being able to exist in public life entirely?

            they WANT us to die

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          Trans people being effectively legislated out of existence and the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention has issued three red flag alerts, but go on about how it’s not a genocide

          the Lemkin Institute believes that the United States is squarely within the early to middle stages of a genocidal process against trans people, the goal of which is to completely erase transgender people not only from public life but also from existence in the U.S. and globally

          I urge anyone skimming by to the article I linked, if you have 5 minutes. It’s actually a pretty good read. I’ll also note that this is why I fled the US when I had the chance

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            I would take them seriously but their mobile site is a shit spam of donation ads and unuseable.

            Seems like a shit company that’s just trying to profit off good messaging from where I’m sitting.

            Pretty great example of good message ruined by greed.

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              There’s literally one window with a large X in the top right. NPR and Wikipedia do the same thing. But here, I copied the first three paragraphs for you so you don’t have an excuse.

              The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention and Human Security is releasing this third Red Flag Alert for the USA related to the Trump Administration’s anti-trans initiatives, which have continued to expand nationwide since our last Red Flag Alert (RFA) on this subject. Over the eight months since the second RFA’s publication, the Republican Party’s anti-trans agenda has radicalized and continued to intensify. 2025 was the sixth consecutive record-breaking year for the number of anti-trans bills considered across the country. There was a 45 percent increase in bills between 2024 and 2025. Between 2021 and 2025, the number of bills in consideration has increased by 668 percent.

              The Administration has moved from identifying transgender people as a threat to the family and to the nation’s military prowess to claiming that transgender people constitute a cosmic threat to the spiritual health of the nation and the greatest direct threat to U.S. national security in the world. Given these ideological developments, especially coupled with the increasingly hostile and draconian legislation against trans identities, the Lemkin Institute believes that the United States is squarely within the early to middle stages of a genocidal process against trans people, the goal of which is to completely erase transgender people not only from public life but also from existence in the U.S. and globally.

              Genocide against trans people takes on patterns that set it apart from the mass murder genocides that people commonly associate with the crime, such as the Holocaust. Currently, the genocide against trans people follows a pattern – denial of identity (pattern #9 in the Lemkin Institute’s Ten Patterns of Genocide) – that makes it more familiar to the colonial genocides against indigenous populations, including the residential/boarding school systems in North America and Australia, where indigenous children were “allowed” to go on living if they gave up their identities, including their languages. Denial of identity involves two main steps: preventing people from openly expressing an identity and destroying institutions that reproduce the identity. Given that the denial of identity is the consequence of a well-defined hostility, even hatred, for the identity, the pattern is often characterized by incitement against the group. Alongside suppression and incitement, perpetrators of this pattern of genocide will simultaneously criminalize the identity, so that expressions of it or institutions that reproduce it become characterized as threatening and corrosive to the body politic and warranting state violence and coercion. People who assert or support the denied identity then become criminal elements that must be eliminated. In the case of the boarding schools, children who used their mother tongue or otherwise showed signs of their independent identity were severely punished.

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      “Americans”

      They voted him into office, this is what “Americans” want

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      Which authoritative body has the power to do something about it, that isn’t openly in cahoots with him? I’ll wait.

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        The people have all the authority. The people are the country, and all agencies are there to serve the people. The people are the highest authority. The people should fix the problem, since it’s the people who voted in the corrupt fascist pedophile into power.

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      but they didn’t vote for the genocidal kamala.

      how could this have happened???

      Edit: really? It was not clear enough that this is sarcasm?

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        Ok, the first thing you guys need to do is shut the fuck up about Kamala. Nobody outside the US cares that you’re mad at the people who didn’t vote for Kamala because of Gaza. It’s in the past. The snark makes you feel good but is 100% pointless.

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      Even the local traffic cops have enough firepower to take down a village; the farce of a 2nd amendment does nothing against real tyranny, it’s just for meatheads to injure themselves or their loved ones and oppress minorities when they get scared. I’m in California; all my votes go blue and are meaningless on the national scale. No amount of standing in front of buildings or blocking roads will make a dent in the capitol overlords that own the levers of accountability.

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        Well it’s good you acknowledge all the things you cant do.

        What about the things you can?

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          What do you suggest? I take pretty extreme “voting with your dollars” positions that have excluded me from a ton of social and family things. I have protested, taken days off work, marched, signed petitions. I’ve donated to progressive politicians, I’ve talked about what’s going on to apathetic people to the point where they don’t talk to me much anymore or ask to stop talking politics. Everything I’ve voted for has pretty much passed, and my representatives do the right things for the most part. I actively participate in a local network of people connecting resources to protect immigrants by hosting some services on my self-hosted network for people to organize on (I have personally sponsored meshtastic communicators and provided access to an anti-ice private channel).

          I’m pretty tired of doing what feels like a huge amount of effort, only to be told I should be doing something different or more. I fought so hard against the right, that the flanking snark attacks from the left and the implication that I’m somehow complicit by not doing enough or the right thing are driving me towards apathy. I’m fucking exhausted.

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    The US had a perfectly good nuclear deal with Iran, but Trump chose to rip it up nine years ago because it had Obama’s name on it.

    Should come to no surprise that Iran don’t want to end this crisis diplomatically with the same guy who stabbed them in the back just to spite the Democrats…

    Trump sparked anger and concern around the globe on Tuesday morning with his post, which read, “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death, will finally end. God Bless the Great People of Iran!”

    I’ve not read the full wording of his Truth Social post until now, but why does it read like he’s trying to cut a wrestling promo?

    I mean his description of the US airman rescue operation in yesterday’s press conference where he called the Iranian army a “hostile, very talented, very good, very evil military” was giving me Danhausen vibes…

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      The US had a perfectly good deal. Israel didn’t. If the deal had stayed in place, the Iranian econony would have roughly doubled by now. That’s a lot more resources that could stay in Israel’s way of expanding into Lebanon for example.

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        The deal benefited Israel as well… what are you talking about!?

        What the deal did not include was: praise for the orange pedophile and/or distraction for his crimes or Bibi’s

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          Did an edit to add that before I saw your reply. Don’t buy what Israel tells you about how they love the Iranian people. Consider Israel’s material interests.

          E: Also it’s fairly public fact that Israel lobbied against the deal and following it lobbied for repeal.

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            Consider Israel’s material interests.

            Hmmmm how about no… Israel had a chance but decided to become the new Nazis… they can go fuck themselves back to the stone age for all I care

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              “consider” as in “you won’t understand why Israel does what it does unless you think about”, it doesn’t mean “give them what they want”

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                yes, I understood… but again, this is the slippery slope where “the best move” is justified regardless how heartless and immoral it may be

                My point is I do not care what Israel had to win by this. This is wrong and they should pay dearly for their crimes against humanity

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                Yes but this is the slippery slope that can justify any and all atrocities…

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    Out of curiosity I checked out how Fox News is covering this shit show. Totally fucking unhinged is an understatement. He could livestream eating a baby and they’d be praising his bold nutritional choices.

    It’s wild. Meanwhile, other mainstream media channels are accused of leftist propaganda by these deranged lunatics, simply for reporting the facts.

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      Dude at work randomly walked up and said Iran is gonna be a nice parking lot. Like I’ve known you two weeks and my toolbox is covered in socialist stickers, either you can’t read or you’re real real fuckin dense.

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      World Wide Web was a great experiment while it lasted. Wouldn’t be surprised if we ended up losing a W and getting cut off from good fun things like Steam.

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      That’s because it was said on the TV that means we have to listen and follow what it says cus only correct things get said on the colored box ya here /s

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    No one in their right mind talks with a lunatic.

    By acting crazy and threatening people, dj appears to have made up his own mind long ago.

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    Americans if this is not the time for second amendment I don’t fucking know what it. This is Munich 1938, it’s now or deal with a king and a world war where you guys are the Nazis.

    The opposition has been infighting and soon you’ll all be silenced too. Before Germany invaded Europe, they stamped out any dissent within their borders first. Throwing the growing list of undesirable in camps without due process.

    It’s not like this is already happening in America is it? 🤔 But really Americans how much more do you need? And don’t just throw your arms up in the air and dodge blame while you sit on your couch watching Netflix.

    Your country was won by fat farmers and every profession in between when they realized it was UNITE OR DIE

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      I have multiple guns, I live 3,000 miles from DC, I own them mostly to shoot at bears who come near me, what do you suggest I do?

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      But who do we shoot. Like really?

      What do I do ?

      It sounds plausible on paper but just not possible in real life to do anything. With or without a gun.

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    He’s a shitting, screaming, spoiled child having a temper tantrum. Oh, he also has access to the nuke codes. Nothing to worry about. /s

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    This could be a blessing in disguise. He called Biden a retard on Monday. He’s now upped the threats a notch.

    Could be he got some very bad health news from Walter Reed medical over the weekend.

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    Huh. Weird. Turns out when you show a demented willingness to cause mass genocide, people might get the impression that negotiations aren’t really an option anymore.

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    The Iran leadership has been acting like civilized humans while the American pedophile coalition has been trashing, yelling and sinking deeper in their war crimes and genocidal drivel like barbarians and animals. If Iran disappears we will always remember this.

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      9 days ago

      Which is wild, since a couple months ago most of the world would have said that Iranian leadership were murderous psychopaths for killing thousands of civilian protesters. Yet, here we are with those same leaders being the adults in the room.

      • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I guess your authoritarian regime starts to look good when the Americans slaughter an elementary school full of your children?

        I don’t understand the need to paint everything in black and white, not every conflict has a straight-forward “good guy” or “bad guy” - the US is self-interested and hates Iran because the current regime challenges US hegemony and deposed a US-backed autocrat to get in power. Meanwhile, Iran is a horrible, authoritarian theocracy that engages in medieval criminal punishment spectacles. It’s all bad.

      • Ilixtze@lemmy.ml
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        Donald trump the United States president just made it perfectly clear that they were arming protesters to incite violence. And the Israeli leadership was proudly saying out loud that the protesters were agitated by their agents. Anyone with half a brain can realize that this whole propaganda push wasn’t about helping the Iranian people, but to de-stabilize Iran in order to plunder it’s resources and remove any opposition of Israel’s planned genocide in the region. Now that their plans failed. They will ditch any humanitarian pretense and just kill all the people they were so preoccupied in saving.

        The playbook of Americans and zionists: cry bullying and feigning concern so that they can destroy you. The middle east is just the beginning, we are all next.

    • Soggy@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      You should always remember it regardless, and learn to recognize the signs decades before they bear fruit. This is the culmination of a long and multifaceted process. Reject nationalism, reject regulatory capture, reject media monopolization.

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        I was very young when George Bush made up the weapons of mass destruction to invade Iran, and I remember at that time they were at least trying to manufacture some consensus about the war. Then I remember Afghanistan and Syria and slowly becoming aware not only of how imperialism works but also how it makes the arguments for genocide. The difference between then and now is that it’s becoming impossible for the defenders of genocide to make arguments for this. The Nazi state is outwordly brazen now and it will take a world coalition to stop it.

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    9 days ago

    It isn’t really “talks” when the alternative is to be destroyed as a civilization. That’s bullying and extortion