It always took ages to start on my phone, which really sucks for a note taking app. Now I use the nextcloud notes app, which also takes a bit to start, but not nearly as long.
I would rather suggest https://www.qownnotes.org/ with works great with Nextcloud and stores the notes as plain text.
This looks really cool and similar to Joplin. I am disappointed it doesn’t do LaTeX though.
Standard Notes is another great app if you don’t need all the features Joplin provides.
Can I run my own Joplin-cloud server instead of paying/trusting them?
You can sync via Dropbox or a few others. Nextcloud is one of them.
Has latex, HTML, code and mermaid-js (diagrams) support, this is the most convenient note taking app and I’ve been using it for years.
Does it muck up the html code the way it does md? Last I checked, it stuffed a bunch of metadata into the md which meant it was the only editor that could make use of it… so if you wanted to use the NC interface to edit a note on a machine that you didn’t or couldn’t install Joplin, it screwed things up.
I don’t fully understand the context of your question. If you use encryption you can only edit files using the app, but it is supported on a variety of platforms including android, Linux and freebsd. In practice - anything where you can use electrons builder (npm run dist). There’s also CLI app.
They’re “markdown” files. You can go into the Nextcloud web app interface, and open them or any other text file.
And, you’d even be able to modify those files there… except that Joplin doesn’t do true markdown at all. It spams it up with some metadata which it hides within its own interface. Sometimes I want to be able to look at or add to notes when I’m not at a computer that I own, it’d be able to use NC’s web app for that.
Just wondering if Joplin still screws this up, or if they somehow went in and fixed it.
Its not a bug, its a feature. Use the app, it 1) allows you to encrypt those files 2) works on a variety of devices 3) can export PDF/HTML/markdown for you. But if you want to edit the files without the app, you are better off just having a bunch of markdown files in a nextcloud folder, without Joplin.
Use the app, it 1) allows you to encrypt those files
The NC web app doesn’t interfere with encryption. Furthermore, Joplin then locks me into using it forever, my notes aren’t easily viewed with anything else. If I clean them up to be usable with something else in the future, then I’ve messed them up so I can never use Joplin again.
This isn’t a feature. It’s a lock-in.
you are better off just having a bunch of markdown files in a nextcloud folder, without Joplin.
I probably am better off, because I need to steer clear of software producers who attempt to lock me into their product, and who spam up standard file formats with proprietary crud to make those unusable with other software.
But I am not better off without a notes application at all, because the NC interface is very basic and inconvenient for organizing a large number of notes. I can’t use it on a phone, for instance. I can’t juggle between notes-topics quickly. I wish there was a good notes app, that didn’t try to lock me into their title, or their cloud, or whatever. Joplin’s just not it. And it could have been, it was so close.
I would agree with you, except it is possible to export each Joplin note individually as an archive and in bulk, and I simply cannot imagine how it is possible to have markdown + media support without a lock-in.
One of the things that just work really well for me. The webclipper is quite decent too.
