A “good faith effort to comply” with a bad faith law is to pipe /dev/yes to the API.
Also showing lawmakers how easy it is means even more laws down the pipeline to really make development disgusting because “it worked before, right?”
They are building the framework piece by piece. First the API is “Honour Based” then it goes to “Prove It”. For once it looks like baby steps instead of full blown head in a toilet of fresh shit like usual. Build your off line libraries, soon the only way to win will be not to play
I mean… there’s nothing stopping anyone from setting their age to 100 years old. It’s not like they are adding any sort of identification check, from what I gather. Just doing the minimum to comply.
Yeah, once everyone gets comfortable with being asked their age, then it’ll go to requiring a ‘realistic’ age instead of accepting someone born 1/1/1900, then it’ll move to requiring proof of your age
Imho, that’s a slippery slope argument. Like arguing that communities should have no moderation at all (not even when it’s fair) because it opens the door for unfair moderation too…
One might as well argue a slippery slope in the opposite direction, the more you reject parental-control methods that you can control, the more incentive they’ll have to instead promote methods where you’ll have no control. So you can equally say that rejecting this method will make their case stronger for proposals that would, progressively, give you less and less capacity for control (or in particular, capacity to actively be disobedient against).
Sure it’s a slippery slope, but it’s also exactly how corporations and governments have been behaving and there’s hundreds of examples of it. You’re being intentionally dense if you don’t believe that.
Why is there a need to comply with foolish laws? I’m sure I type stuff on lemmy.ml or elsewhere on the internet that doesn’t comply with some idiot law somewhere in like Myanmar or the DPRK. Why would I concern myself with those laws.
You don’t need to take remote places like DPRK. Trust me, most Lemmy instances don’t follow the laws of 27 European Union countries.
Can you share an example which laws and in what way are broken?
I support Palestine Action. From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free.
There: I’ve broken British and Australian laws.
You’re not an instance though
Non of these countries belong to the European Union.
I’m not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure they don’t follow the GDPR (and I don’t think it would even be possible given the federated nature).
As a European living in Canada, it’s quite annoying to think about having to do extra stuff (even if it is very minimal) because one state in America passes a stupid law.
Let’s not forget all the new cookie banners everyone deals with now.
“We have to comply with the law”. This has become Russia or China where the sheep people do whatever an oligarchy dictate. Wasn’t it a democracy? Do the majority of people really want this?
In the end we get what we deserve for being just sheep that obey.
“We have to comply with the law”. This has become Russia or China where the sheep people do whatever an oligarchy dictate.
“What are we a bunch of Asians?”
Also China isn’t run by an “oligarchy” but by a dictatorship of the communist party via a mandate of the masses (they execute CEOs and rich people there, we let them rape kids and commit horrific crimes of greed and fine them less than they made off that crime). Russia is but so is the west and I prefer the term capitalists or if you prefer the original French “bourgeoisie”.
There was a study from one of the big ivy league universities that showed that in the US the people don’t get what they want, popular policy is consistently not passed nor popular will acted on. Princeton I think.
So it’s not what people per se want, it’s what the ruling class (capitalists in the west) wants. And they’ve decided that because the rate of profit falls and their demand for profit grows that they need to put the population under lock and key because they’ve made economic conditions worse and they’re going to get worse yet. They need a police state to control the workers who might want better conditions or gasp to take some or all of their wealth. This is part of that.
This is also because China is rising and they are terrified of people seeing a more equal, just society that can be created through socialism. They are terrified of dissenting voices so they want to remove anonymity so they can terrorize dissidents and opponents into silence. They saw what happened with their attempts at narrative shaping in Gaza, they are deeply alarmed that tik tok won’t be the last thing, a new one could pop up anywhere, right now they play whack a mole, they want to control the whole thing top to bottom.
As to people being sheep. It’s more like they’re beaten down. You defeat this today they come back in a year and then again and again. They have all the money, all the time and are willing to wear people down, use their capitalist owned media to propagandize and sensationalize for this until the people are exhausted and stop fighting it so hard. People work long hours, they take home less money than ever, the government openly abuses people, the police don’t act fairly and persecute black people, there’s a sense of there being no fairness and not enough time. The people are also mis-educated. They’re led to believe there’s this big problem, they don’t understand technology and passively accept their leadership has some amount of good will in how they pass laws and govern to address real problems the bourgeois press has done its job of propagandizing them for. They can’t see the whole picture because of these facts.
China isn’t run by an “oligarchy” but by a dictatorship of the communist party via a mandate of the masses
Almost all one-party systems meet the definition of a oligarchy. Also not via a mandate of the masses, not anymore, read about how Xi Jinping came to be the general secretary.
they execute CEOs and rich people there
You could have worded this a bit better, it reads as “being rich is enough to get you executed” and not as “being rich doesn’t make you exempt from capital punishment”. There’s plenty of those over there ofc, over a thousand billionaires.
They need a police state to control the workers
Bit irrelevant because all states seek to control the workers, that’s how states work. And why all communistic political ideologies aim to abolish the state at some point.
Edit: To be clear, I agree with you in general. I just got bugged a bit by those three things 😅
Edit: To be clear, I agree with you in general. I just got bugged a bit by those three things 😅
You do not. You are misinformed and propagandized. Your choice of examples revealed that clearly and nothing you say can refute that fact. Read Marx, read Lenin, your understanding of the state is lacking.
For one, anyone educated would understand that Americans are the best example of sheep in the world and that many Europeans are good second examples. The British for example with their high tolerance for a surveillance, laws that criminalize all manners of small trivialities, etc, etc. Educate yourself.
I appreciate that you feel strongly, but being this agressive and calling the other person “propagandized” and telling them to “educate yourself”, and not adresing any point made, just makes you seem irrational. You are acting like a redditor, be better.
Read Marx and Lenin
I’ve read Marx and Lenin, their work while fundamental to quite a lot of socialist movements, is now mostly outdated. Read something modern, there are more relevant analysis of workers material conditions. Do you want some recommendations?
For one, anyone educated would understand that Americans are the best example of sheep in the world and that many Europeans are good second examples. The British for example with their high tolerance for a surveillance, laws that criminalize all manners of small trivialities, etc, etc.
This doesn’t connect to anything I wrote btw.
You willing to go to jail then? Or just asking others to do so?
I’m absolutely willing to go to jail. Many human rights have been won thanks to people who went to jail to defend them. And in any case we’re already in jail. It may be a spacious jail now, but they’ll shrink it more and more.
Asking others to do so? By no means no. If they don’t want a democracy, then good for them. They only need to bow their head down and obey. And later on, maybe, they must even watch out not to protest, because that won’t be allowed by the law either.
Doubt
I don’t agree with this law, but having an age verification API as an open-source modular component is the best way to do it. Build in privacy controls and permissions so you know what’s being sent, where, and when. Make sure we know to edit $HOME/.config/systemd/ageverificationd/birthday.conf whenever we want (yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if systemd handled this, too).
Don’t forget the off switch and don’t give it unnecessary dependencies. Let me be able to install it if I need it (spoilers: I won’t) and if you include it by default, let me be able to remove it without removing the whole GUI.
I know everyone here is obsessed with freaking out over the legislation.
But I think the author is wrong, they should just add this to accountservice and Debian will pick it up in 5-10 years and that’s fine.
I actually thing the tendency to over engineer this solution to make back porting easier is worse than the milktoast Californian law.
I think they should add the word “Fuck” to all age verification prompts until they, too, get censored.
