Sorry for the trash rag.
‘You would never find a nicer, kinder person,’ the father added about his son. ‘He’s a committed, conservative Christian, a tremendous father, a tremendous husband. I couldn’t be more proud of him.’
“Nice” and “kind” seem mutually exclusive with “committed, conservative Christian”
You have heard that it was said, “An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.” But I say to you, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to her and shoot her in the face three times.
As a conservative Christian, I can tell you that white Jesus hates immigrants and loves justice. 🔫🔫🔫✝️✝️✝️
“Nice” and “kind” seem mutually exclusive with being an Exclusion and Removal ICE terrorist.
“Committed, conservative Christian” is supposed to welcome immigrants but who listens to that Jesus guy right? Certainly not Christians.
Love thy neighbor* (conditions apply)
I have personally known abusers that are so charming and considerate and kind outside of the home that it makes the abused person question reality, and trying to talk about it to people they know feel impossible.
Yuuup. And often they are charming and loving to their spouse, 23.5 hours a day…
Conservatives Christian is someone who has reservations about Jesus’s radical leftist ideas.
No, no, you don’t understand. They’re “nice” and “kind” to their own ingroup. It’s impossible for someone to be bad when they act good around us!
With Christian, really. If you need a white bearded man in the sky to scare you away from doing “what’s wrong”, then I will never be able to say if you are by any means nice or kind.
He’s a committed, conservative Christian, a tremendous father, a tremendous husband.
He’s also a murderer. These things are not mutually exclusive. Being a good dad doesn’t excuse putting a bullet in the head of a good mom.
He’s not saying he’s good because he’s a good father and husband, he’s citing those as evidence for him being a good conservative Christian, which is the only thing that matters to them. If you identify as exactly that you can do anything and still be a good person.
The rich have co-opted Christianity and the insane devotion its internal logic creates to build their perfect foot soldiers
“Conservative Christian” means “not at all aligned with the teachings of Jesus Christ”.
It means gullible and incurious… but also yes
It means women are less. But also yes.
If even 50% of “christians” gave a fuck about what Jesus said, we wouldn’t be here.
But that’s not really true. If you are a trinitarian then what Yahweh said is also what Jesus said. But even so people apparently haven’t actually read their bible. Jesus was exclusionary, used racial slurs for tribes he didn’t like, told everyone to continue the same barbaric treatment found in the Old Testement.
Just using the word tremendous (orange toddler special) to describe him, should tell us about the what kind of household he was raised in.
conservative Christian
Fucking gross.
With all the feeding and clothing the poor, and the
Whoever kidnaps a person, whether that person has been sold or is still held in possession, shall be put to death.
And the
You shall not oppress a resident alien; you know the heart of an alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt.
And the
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
I would argue a true Christian would be considered part of the “radical left” and that conservativism is an anathema to chistianity.
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I actually am seriously claiming that the Spanish conquistadors were not Christian. As enslaving, oppressing, and getting rich, are counter indicated by the bible. The inconsistency is not mine, it is the “followers” of the bible.
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You seem pretty emotionally invested, so I will recommend that as I am not particularly invested, if it is easier for you, I give you total freedom to ignore my individual opinion. I’m just one man, feel free to ignore me. But what I’ve quoted is primarily direct quotes from Jesus (per the bible), or taken from Exodus, which is about as foundational as it gets Christianity wise.
I agree that the bible is a poor source of clarity. It is all over the map as far as rules, and not very consistent. But I’m not talking apocryphy here, I’m talking straight up 10 commandments shit. The core “do unto others”, and “don’t be greedy”, and “be grateful”, stuff that the whole thing is supposed to be based on.
I think ultimately we are arguing the same thing: That there is something to justify anything within the labyrinthian maze that is biblical logic. But where we diverge is that you are willing to call anyone who claims to be Christian, Christian. And I’m trying to highlight how an overwhelming majority of Christians are anything but.
My original point is that the brown shirt, class traitor, gestapo, murderer “christian” is just about as Christian as the king asshole there in the white house: ie, not at all. I’m attempting to call attention to the painfully paradoxical relationship between those who call themselves Christians and their estimation of the importance of things such as compassion, charity, humility, simplicity, community, and introspection.
But part of the issue is you are cherry picking WHAT JESUS SAID. You’re literally justifying their actions by trying to pretend like their book doesn’t give them justification.
Jesus said that you must continue the laws previously set by their god. His generic “be nice” message doesn’t supersede the horrible treatment of others the rest of the book promotes. And the part you’re missing is that all the shitty things people do now they can go back to the book and say “look, its says this is all ok. Even Jesus agrees” because it does say that.
This is what happens in all of the highly violent religions. There are good and bad parts and everyone wants to pretend like the bad parts aren’t there. They want to say that people are manipulating the word to justify things when honestly they aren’t. These books were created by people who wanted to justify their own actions, their own grabs for power. They invent gods and create stories to show that the horrible stuff they do is ok because their god says so.
The people you’re saying aren’t Christian are Christian. Sadly they most likely haven’t read their own book, haven’t actually studied it in depth. And the ironic part is that even then most of them still are following what the book says even when doing horrible things.
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Why did you skip the part where Jesus said he is here to fulfill the law, not abolish it. That we must continue the old law that told you how to get slaves from the nations around you and how to properly beat them, or to kill a woman if she doesn’t bleed her first time. I think only those who haven’t actually studied the bible would think Jesus was this great guy.
Declaring loyalty and affiliation.
He’s a committed, conservative Christian, a tremendous father, a tremendous husband.
and a coward, and a murderer.
Oh, he’s a Christian. That explains everything, really.
This is the praise you give to someone who fucked up and accidentally killed someone through stupidity with no intent and they’re also devastated that the death happened. Some dumb party prank or something. They’ve otherwise been a normal human and stayed out of trouble. You’re trying for leniency from the court, but still expect you’ll go to jail for a while, just hoping it won’t be a long time.
This MF showed up already primed to kill someone. Deliberately positioned himself in order to claim a threat and escalate the situation, while she was being told to leave* by other officers, and she attempted to leave and was shot by him within seconds even after he was no longer in front of the vehicle. He doesn’t have any remorse. Fuck him.
*([https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/07/shooting-south-minneapolis-ice-agents-federal-operation](“Some of them were leaving, and they just went around her, but ICE gave her orders to leave, while at the same time, another ICE person said, ‘Get out of the car,’ and he reached for her door handle. And then there was an ICE agent in front of her vehicle. ) Seems to be typical cop bs to issue conflicting orders. The shooter could have simply stepped aside, but chose not to.)
He’s a committed, conservative Christian
we know, we knew that when he murdered Good
He is a murderer.
He is a murderer.
He is a murderer.
He murdered a woman in cold blood. Nothing else about his life matters. He murdered someone in front of their spouse. He murdered a child’s mother. We all watched it happen. Give him the chair with Noem and Trump alongside him.
The chair is far too peaceful an option
I agree with you but why do we always have to write like we’re in a padded cell? You know people get off on this, right? Your outrage fuels their entire movement.
Not a personal attack, just an observation
Because we are PISSED THE FUCK OFF. We are angry and sick and tired of the evil run amok. We do not need to question or criticize how people are expressing their outrage and horror.
I know. I just hate seeing psychopaths being rewarded with the reactions they seek to create. I would rather see something happen that they don’t like, but I guess I don’t get to say that if I’m not doing anything to manifest it
Yeah, I dislike when people moderate their beliefs and opinions around the most recent event that made them feel an emotion. If the person above advocates the death penalty for this guy, it implies they advocate for the death penalty in general, and that’s mega fucked. But almost as fucked is the notion that their opinion changed entirely based on their emotion in this moment. It means they have little or no foundation for their own ethics and ideology. It means they’re potentially reactionary, untrustworthy, or ideologically immature. It means that they cannot argue for or consistently demand a coherent vision for a better world. It’s a huge liability.
That’s some pretty heavy character assessment that I don’t really want to pronounce on them. People’s entirety really can’t be reduced to one kind-of-cringe comment they made. If that was the case I would be guilty of far worse.
Oh certainly, I don’t mean to prescribe all of that to this one person. I’m saying that when someone reacts this way, this is the array of possibilities they bring to the table, and absent any productive contribution outside of an unprocessed and possibly harmful form of catharsis.
We’ve seen where civility got us. It got us here. Maybe we should try the other thing.
Wasn’t at all talking about civility
Why do we need to censor ourselves when they don’t? The time for niceness is over.
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“He will not be charged with anything … {then some bullshit justification} … I couldn’t be more proud of him.”
So his dad couldn’t be more proud of his son shooting an unarmed mother who had just dropped off her 6 year old daughter at school.
I wonder if the scum bag murderer’s wife is also proud of him? I wonder if she has any morals and decency about her at all?Yeah, but he doesn’t know her so it’s fine
Oh so he’s just a cold blooded murderer rather than a racist cold blooded murderer, thanks daily mail, particularly given the person he shot in the face 4 times wasn’t an immigrant in the first place …
has an immigrant wife
bet she’s Asian
married to a woman with Filipino parents
Ding ding. What a surprise.
Never ask a white supremacist what race his girlfriend is
Also quite young looking. Bet he married her on her 18th birthday.
Filipino women tend to just look young, which that and them coming from a poorer nation is likely exactly why they’re so popular among loser white men.
None of it matters at all, it’s never been about race specifically, it’s about power and control and insecurity. These are the factors that turn people into murderers. Race is always just a convenient decoy they can point at.
Race is connected just in that most of these fucksticks are deeply insecure about someone of another race being more exotic and attractive to their girlfriends, and that sexual insecurity just manifests as this bottomless well of hate and anger, because that’s the only kind of emotion they think they can have as men.
But really, through all of history the people who persecute the people of different races or ethnicities have often also taken advantage of or been deeply attracted to those people as well, and it becomes this toxic well of shame and hate. Stephen Miller is jewish. Vance has to apologize for his wife being Hindu. The leader of the Proud Boys was hispanic. Don’t try to make any of it make sense, just understand that these are not thinking people, if they could think through their problems we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with.
Sure it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. But as an Asian living in the west myself it’s just weird to me that so many of these Asian women in the west are so self hating that they rather be in a relationship with a racist piece of shit as long as he’s white than be with a normal stand up guy who is non-white and they especially don’t want to be with anyone who is of their own ethnicity.
People broadly don’t think social issues are going to effect them personally and are real good at making excuses for stability and comfort. It’s not that American Asian women are broadly “self hating” in fact it’s usually the exact opposite, they are very strong, prideful people which is where the meme comes from making fun of incels for thinking asian women are submissive.
I don’t know what brings a couple like this together, I’m sure it’s complicated, but I have strong feeling that she’s filipina, and if I know anything it’s that she is haaaaating this media attention and social shaming, and as a result is making this dude’s life hell. It’s not nearly enough but I do delight in the fact that they’re both suffering together on this front.
His father can eat shit for defending a murderer.
You would never find a nicer, kinder person…
Hey have you heard of this woman called Renee Good?
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as the founding fathers intended
His dad is a piece of shit clearly who raised a piece of shit person
Feels like ICE agent or Trump supporter with migrant wife/husband is a running theme.
There were an astounding number of immigrant citizens who came here “the right way” (which mostly involves marrying a citizen) and voted for Trump specifically because they see everyone else coming as “criminals”. They got in, and wanted to pull the ladder up from behind them.
I wonder if they realize that ICE doesn’t care about their paperwork, they see some who is on the wrong side of the “Peter Griffin in a Fez” scale and just act. All of their papers, which they spent so long to get “the right way”, will be dismissed as forgeries and they will be expelled to some foreign country just like the “criminals” they thought they were punishing, because ICE doesn’t see the difference.
Yup. Very true among the US Filipino community. Very strong MAGA support. Filipino Facebook is wiiiiiiild.
All he had to do was move aside.
The woman wasn’t a threat to him. He was a threat to her and her death proves it. She moved the car after he pulled his gun.
Ignoring unlawful commands is not a crime but she was shot for that.
He literally did the same thing in Chicago last year. Claimed he got “dragged” by the car and that’s why he shot. Video shows him running after the car so he can reach in and shoot him.
He didn’t have to move aside. She drove around him. Her last action in life was making sure not to hurt the man who was going to kill her.
Cool. He’s also a treasonous murderer.
Jonathan Ross.
Google “Jonathan Ross Iraq photo” to find full face pictures.
Saved everyone a Google search.
Here he is with his Filipina wife.
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?q=jonathon+ross+ice+agent&ia=images&iax=images
DDG image search, less likely to be scrubbed soon.
Two time (that we know of) murderer. Don’t forget the man he shot and killed in Chicago last year in very very similar circumstances that he also lied about.
I tried to be surprised.
If you hand socially disenfranchised young men a bit of power, they WILL abuse it.
socially disenfranchised young menmiddle-aged married men in positions of powerFTFY
thats what those young men turn into
This guy is not disenfranchised in the least? He works for the fucking federal government
No that’s different, she’s one of the good ones
