Look long story short, what i expected to be a short install ended up being a 5 hour manhunt for an issue that resulted in needing a closed source instead of open source nvidia driver. Shes all switched to linux, and if her trial goes well and i don’t end up tearing my hair out doing tech support. I may switch over as well, probably a different distro though.
One thing i will say though, even though the state of gaming has drastically improved since my first foray into linux, the “fine details” of gaming have not. Fuck me the first time i looked into the modding scene on linux and how much busywork that took, that just killed a little bit of my soul. Even trying to get her game open, we first had a xbox game controller bluetooth not connecting issue, my bandaid was to do a wired connection, and sitting here just now i hear a laugh and look back and see this in her game. What i can only imagine is some sort of video player error, but the game works. Its rough, but it works.
It’ll be interesting to see how this goes, thats for sure
You could’ve just ask ;)
To fix Xbox controller connect it to an Xbox console and update its firmware.
To fix some videos not playing in games, switch from stock Proton to GE-Proton, you can install ProtonPlus or ProtonUpQt from your desktop store for easy Proton installs, newly installed Proton versions show up after Steam restart.
To fix the missing videos, use Proton-GE. Easiest method: Download it with Proton-up QT (bundled with Bazzite) then chose Proton-GE from the game’s Steam compatibility settings.
It’s because they use proprietary codecs that Valve can’t freely distribute.
It’s because they use proprietary codecs that Valve can’t freely distribute.
Interesting… I knew this was the solution to the video issue, but didn’t know why.
AFAIK Proton-GE uses VLC and Valve is from the US, where VLC is considered to breach some codec licenses I believe h264 decoding in particular. But I’m not sure, it’s been a long time since I’ve read about it.
Yes, you need closed source Nvidia drivers. That’s a pretty heavily discussed topic. Basically, it’s because Nvidia refuses to open source their drivers. They’ve started open sourcing some components, which is nice, for sure, but not enough to game on. I buy AMD video cards specifically because they work really well on Linux without any work at all.
I’m surprised you’re seeing issues on Hogwarts Legacy though. My wife and I have been playing it over the last few months on two different machines both with Bazzite and haven’t had any issues at all. We don’t use Nvidia cards, so it might be an issue with Nvidia’s drivers.
I only hope that people who still think that Nvidia drivers on Linux are an old issue that’s been solved ages ago, see this post and this comment. It got slightly better, but the problem never went away. Yet, anyway.
The post where the user is missing proprietary multimedia codecs, unrelated to NVIDIA drivers or the comment by the person decrying the problems had by NVIDIA users despite not using NVIDIA cards?
What do you mean “unrelated to NVIDIA drivers”? It’s literally the first sentence of OP’s post (emphasis mine):
Look long story short, what i expected to be a short install ended up being a 5 hour manhunt for an issue that resulted in needing a closed source instead of open source nvidia driver.
They did say the word driver, yes.
That is in no way evidence that their current problem is a problem with their gpu driver.
Inside the word install is the implication that they installed and configured lot of things in addition to the driver. Considering that the game launches but fails to play some multimedia file it’s incredibly unlikely to be a low level problem like an incorrect driver. This is typically a missing proprietary codec or library inside of the wine environment.
They’ve started open sourcing some components, which is nice, for sure, but not enough to game on.
I read this a lot but I’ve been using nvidia-open, on Arch so I’m not running a LTS distro or anything, for over a year with no breaking issues.
It’s especially annoying in threads where someone is having a technical issue and as soon as they say they have an nvidia card you’ll see a bunch of people decide that it’s a driver issue.
Their issue is that they’re using Valve’s Proton which is missing some commonly used but proprietary video codecs. Using GE-Proton will ensure that they have the correct software to play videos.
I use Valve’s Proton and don’t have this issue. That’s not it.
The parts of Nvidia’s drivers that they’ve released as open source are not enough to game on. You have to add additional code to actually be able to game, whether it’s community drivers or Nvidia’s drivers.
First mistake using bazzite second mistake not using cachy.
Third mistake? Playing Hogwarts that game just wants to not be played it’s wildly hard to get to work right for some damn reason.
Highly recommend Cachy as well. The only issues I’ve had running games are the games that do funky windows calls, like checking if edge is installed, before running well.
So far, CachyOS has been great for me. KDE Plasma pimped out looks great also.
needing a closed source instead of open source nvidia driver.
Yes, you need Nvidia closed source drivers, especially if you want to play games. Although you had no way of knowing this if you hadn’t interacted with the community before, this is well known and part of the reason most of us who’ve been here a while use and recommend AMD.
Shes all switched to linux, and if her trial goes well and i don’t end up tearing my hair out doing tech support. I may switch over as well, probably a different distro though.
That’s an interesting approach, I usually experiment on stuff myself before making others switch, makes me more comfortable on the stuff and more confident that I’ll be able to solve their issues.
the modding scene on linux and how much busywork that took, that just killed a little bit of my soul.
Care to expand on that, I’m not too used to modding games, but from the times I tried it, it’s my understanding that 99% of the times it’s just putting stuff into the right folder. If not how is it different from Windows?
Even trying to get her game open, we first had a xbox game controller bluetooth not connecting issue
The game wouldn’t open if the controller was connected via Bluetooth? That’s weird, or did you mean that you had issues with making the game run and after that the Xbox controller wouldn’t connect?. For the Xbox controller thing I will assume you’re 100% sure it has a Bluetooth chip (not all of them do), I’m not sure how it’s in Bazzite but in other distros you need to install
xpadneoto get them working via Bluetooth, they also need to be in a updated firmware (but I never had to do this step), you can read about it here even though you’re not using Arch, their wiki is extremely helpful.see this in her game. What i can only imagine is some sort of video player error, but the game works. Its rough, but it works.
You’re almost correct, for legal reasons Steam can’t include transcoding for certain proprietary video formats that games love to use. There’s an alternative version to proton called Proton-GE (or GloriousEggroll because that’s the name of the maintainer), it includes those codecs plus some other extra fixes, as a general rule it’s always better to use it. To use it you either download it from the release page and extract it in
~/.steam/steam/compatibilitytools.dand restart steam, or using ProtonUp if it’s available for you which will make things easier on the long run.Good luck and welcome!
the modding scene on linux and how much busywork that took, that just killed a little bit of my soul.
Care to expand on that, I’m not too used to modding games, but from the times I tried it, it’s my understanding that 99% of the times it’s just putting stuff into the right folder. If not how is it different from Windows?
Alright so modding is actually harder on linux and stupid. You should use a mod manager and not manually install your mods so you can uninstall them easier, resolve conflicts easier, manage them, etc. But the mod managers don’t all work on linux natively. So you end up trying to get steam tinker launch working (to use vortex or mo2, but the creator hates modding and will let you know) or using other random things on github (like jackify). I spent way too much time trying to get this stuff to launch and that is before you start actually modding. I ended up doing some distro hopping to get the mod managers to work and ended up on CachyOs.
I’m currently using r2modman for Lethal Company modding, but it does lots of other games as well and it’s been working pretty well, so you might want to check that out.
That’s the only one I know that runs on linux well, but it is not popular in most of the games I mod. I would not be able to make huge Skyrim modlists on it. I could string some valheim mods on it, but that’s about it so far. I stayed on windows for so long because I needed not just the games to run, but the mods I spend a lot of time on tinkering as well. I even tried other things like pushing a payload to a Nintendo switch recently and ended up just going back to my windows install where it detected RCM right away (but the linux tools I tried didn’t).
Yeah, having your partner switch first is hella weird. I switched first, then my partner switched soon after. Same distro as well, which means that usually we can communicate with how updates went (I of course update first) and I’m more prepared to help her with issues.
The biggest issue she’s had was with her drawing tablet… That was solved by using the CORRECT PEN for the tablet she was trying to use lol, instead of a pen for a different tablet.
It’s a weird cycle of “it’s not an OS used by gamers so we don’t have to support it” and “nobody supports it so I don’t wanna use it.”
And the part that sucks is that writing drivers for linux was probably trivial to these companies compared to windows but they just didn’t wanna because it’s unpopular.
My suspicion for Nvidia not opening their drivers is that they have something shifty going on, maybe benchmark “optimizations” or some other trickery.
That, and they’re plain evil.
I think it was a Finnish philosopher who once said it best: Fuck you, Nvidia.
It’s much simpler than that actually. Nvidia makes a lot of money in feature licensing, particularly GRID/vgpu. If they fully open-sourced the driver they would have no method of enforcing license restrictions.
Gotta love Finnish philosophy!
what card?
You are seeing the truth of why normies should not switch lol. Its way more work than people tell you and if you dont find it fun like I do , you’ll hate it.
As part of “Steam Play”, videos are re-encoded and downloaded to allow playback via proton in certain cases. On subsequent runs of the game, the video will likely work fine.
Nvidia and Linux is possibly the most dysfunctional and hateful relationship in all of existence.
Do you mind sharing what the issues were/was?
I’m the pool of people where my computer “just worked” when installing Bazzite.
Looks like it was Nvidia drivers… Might have had trouble with any other distro then too.
I was a dum dum and installed the wrong version of Bazzite for my graphics card. If someone is having drivers issues the first thing I’d check is if they have the right version for their card, and then check that the card is actually recognized. Immediately fixed most of my problems by installing the correct version.
Now if I could get my Steelseries headset chatmix to work reliably I’d be 100% happy lol.
I think there are some ujust recipes related to Nvidia drivers, but not sure since I’ve never had to use them.
Not OP but I installed Bazzite on my old previous rig, Intel/nVidia system (i9-9900k/1080) last week. I’ve already installed Mint on multiple machines as well as my daily driver.
The regular ISO would not install and black screen. I couldn’t resolve whatever issues there were on the F2 screens and almost gave up. Later I read on some forum about deleting existing partitions on the install drive might help, so I tried the Live ISO instead and it booted into the environment just fine. The old NVME drive had an existing Windows install that I was planning on overwriting. I ran Gparted, selected the two partitions and hit delete, then install. The progress bar stalled a bit on the nVidia part but it finished install.
The only problem I have now is wifi/bluetooth, as it’s not recognized for some reason.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z390-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10
(edit - fixed the wifi/bt problem, not sure when but I had it disabled in the BIOS for some reason)
She’s playing the terf wizard game? Is the wedding off then?
Nope, learn to separate art from the artist you cretin.
The art is a product of the artist. Their beliefs, opinions, and ideals. Separating them is an impossibility.
That attitude doesn’t work when the artist is actively using the profits from her art to oppress trans people.
pirated games can be quite ethical :3
Who says we bought it? Also this was in response to the shit head who said I should break off my marriage, fuck them
“I’m fine with supporting a nazi who wants to kill trans people, but I draw the line at joking about divorce”
Lol
What i can only imagine is some sort of video player error
My guess is, your system is missing a video codec, probably a gstreamer plugin like libav (I don’t know what its called on Bazzite, something like gst-plugin-libav or gst-libav …).
If you would start the game from console or find the steam log file you should see a error message. (I’m not at home now and rarely use steam, so I can’t look it up now).
close, but it would actually be missing the codec in proton. bazzite actually comes with a very comprehensive ffmpeg build and all its dependencies.
steam just can’t include those proprietary libs in proton. luckily, protonge exists for this exact reason.
closed source instead of open source nvidia driver.
This is where the problem really began. though afaik, you can get a version of the bazzite distro with the closed source nvidia drivers already installed, so did you select a different one? Nvidia gave me nothing but issues when I was trying to migrate to Linux though. Ever since I switched to AMD, it’s been smooth sailing.
Shes the only one in the house with nvidia, which tbf, has been just perfect for her needs up to this point. I’m just worried what might happen when i finally get her a new motherboard (long story short, it was my old one, i was splicing a 500ft ethernet cable, and didn’t realize 250 ft away the other end was still plugged in)
Shes the only one in the house with nvidia, which tbf, has been just perfect for her needs up to this point.
If you spend any amount of time at all in various Linux meme or Linux newcomer communities you’ll quickly see that this is one of the issues plaguing people switching over.
That’s not a dig at you but to make you realise how big and well known the issue is. The reason it persists is because nvidia refuses to play nice with Linux or an open source environment, presumably for monopolistic licensing issues.
The issue is large enough that there’s even a fairly famous video of the creator of Linux specifically giving a very vocal ‘fuck you nvidia’ middle finge specifically for their efforts at hindering cooperation with Linux at all.
My partner and I are running Kubuntu, both with Nvidia cards, and haven’t had any issues that aren’t solved by using the ubuntu-drivers tool.
Weirdly enough linuxmint with lutris + steam works fine for me. I followed this guide in order to figure out lutris configurations. Don’t download protonupqt though, just download through lutris.
