This Canadian has been avoiding all US products I can and has zero plans to ever cross into the US border.
Americans are fucking stupid can’t be trusted.
Canada should fortify it’s southern border and get nukes.
I would even be into an American style vetting on Americans wanting into Canada. Lets check their phones. Sorry, MAGAt. You support Nazi’s and Trump. Fuck off!
You sound like Kim Jung Un, or that orange guy, when talking about nukes, and securing the southern border.
Canada has a serious problem with a long term ally attacking our trade and saying we’re going to become their 51st state. Trump mocks and attacks our leaders and makes threats against us.
You can try to belittle my comments, but we have a valid reason to feel threatened.
I am Canadian, so what is this we?
If he invades Canada, that will start WW3, he won’t do it. He is too busy destabilising his own country, and deporting people. Also, we have no nukes, compared to the u.s. having over +5,000.
I think we should up security checks for guns and drugs coming into Canada, but not search phones unless we have probable cause. We don’t have to stoop down to Donald Trump’s level.
Make them feel welcomed coming into our country, and hated going back into their own country. We don’t need a wall, or nukes. You silly Goober.
As an American, the other 4 out of 10 must be idiots. GOP is on a mission to destroy everything that makes America a superpower.
Canada has their own far-right wing. I bet around 30% are MAGA types. If you look at any election, 30% usually vote insane.
Those 30% morons should move to the middle of bum fucking Mississippi.
Maybe they just never trusted America in the first place!
From Mary Poppins:
Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.
Haha, I’m stealing this to describe religious people
Personally, my trust in any specific individual is entirely based on that individual, regardless of their nationality or any other factor… Because I’m not bigoted like that.
However, my trust in the American government and my willingness to use American brands has been permanently altered.
Given how much surveillance most major tech companies do on their users, I’m just about ready to break out the tin foil. Shit is getting wild.
This. I live in a bubble in California. We still have decent folks here. When I travel the country I tend to encounter the chuds at airport bars. The key child indicator is to respond that you’re from San Francisco when they ask. They won’t be able to contain the fox news eulogy for San Francisco and how it used to be a great state before it got "ruined "
After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul
A complete overhaul is the prerequisite for this nightmare to be over.
Yeah, talk about putting the cart before the horse.
Holy fuck people like you are the problem. America isn’t coming back from this. Imagine being this clueless in 2025. This facist authoritarian government is there to stay for the next decades.
So you’re still saying it will end eventually?
Balkanisation might honestly be the only solution; but that would involve the US giving up its current position as the only remaining global superpower.
It’s not ending any time soon. The US supreme court will remain a theocratic conservative majority for most of our lives. Regardless of how old you are. You will be quite old by the time that changes.
A brave-enough Congress could overhaul the Supreme Court, as they had in the past.
Unfortunately that level of courage is missing from most current politicians.
Not that I’m trying to pawn off our responsibilities, but I think part of that change needs to come from the rest of the world putting us in our place. Quit bending the knee and letting us get away with murder. Sanction our asses.
Cuba is illegal in the Untied States. All other countries should outlaw the Untied States, make it illegal to go there and illegal to possess anything made there, until the Untied States behaves itself.
I don’t blame them. I am (sadly) American, and I certainly don’t trust most Americans right now.
Edit to add: and don’t know that I ever will again.
This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.
Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…
They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…
Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have
No matter how good a person could be, I wouldn’t trust them if they are easily manipulated in believing BS. I won’t hate them, but I won’t trust them.
Anyone with an bit of judgement could see what Trump was. And yet he was elected. Twice!
So all these “good people” have cpntributed to elect a fascist twice already. You want me to trust they won’t elect another one after him? That this is a two times mistake and Canadians can rely on the US after that?
Nope.
Maybe they were lied to about Trump. They will be lied to again by others about other fascists.
You can blame education, oligarchs propaganda, whatever. Point is: Canada can’t rely on the USA, even if Trump goes away.
This might put some of it into a better perspective…
You would be amazed at how easily you can be manipulated…
You will probably sit there and say not me never, but you probably have been manipulated and tricked into thinking differently and didn’t even realize it…
And you’ve been graceully and entirely missing the point of my comment. So maybe you should wonder what state of mind you’re in right now?
It looks to me that you’re more here to push a narrative about manipulation than discussing the topic.
Brecht:
“When the last [war] came to an end There were conquerors and conquered. Among the conquered the common people Starved. Among the conquerors The common people starved too.”
No one can trust an oligarch. If they live in your country, they are not your countrymen. If they don’t, they are not the common people who live where they happen to.
Can’t trust Americans or can’t trust the United States because those are two inherently different groups.
both… after electing a convicted felon and rapist to the presidency for a SECOND time, Americans cannot escape responsability in my books
I can’t blame you. But to quote a movie … “A person is smart. But people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals…”
precisely, I don’t hate Americans, I just can’t trust them blindly
I trust that their only interest and motivation is money.
Honestly, same here.
Well, one makes the other.
Sorta… But only about 65% of us voted in the last election and of that only 50% voted for these douchebags. And of those, most of them voted that way because of a single R. So I’d guess around 75% of the people don’t agree with what is going on.
So as a concrete example, I’m an American and I’d go out of my way to help most anyone but I am not the United States.
Sorry but the 35% who didn’t vote, knowing the threat of Trump becoming president again was looming, are no different than those who voted Republican.
The whole world remember his first presidential term. And we all saw the Project 2025 playbook. The US is in a mess of its own creation.
As a Brit, I too have lost trust in Americans unless proved otherwise.
Oh I know, I don’t blame you in the least. I’m losing trust in my fellow Americans. The whole process was just a major fustercluck. I woke up the morning after with a serious case of dread of what was about to happen. The apathy in this country is a major issue no doubt. I’m hopeful that as shit gets worse and worse, the apathy goes away. If it doesn’t, then Handmaid’s Tale becomes more of a playbook and less a work of fiction.
Handmaid’s Tale becomes more of a playbook
It already is.
Project 2025 intentionally leads to Gilead.
We are definitely in the first few chapters.
Agreed
Here is one of those people who shouldnt be trusted.
okay so you’re saying that we should be safe and play the odds and not trust any americans since the grand majority did nothing to stop this
Sure not everyone is on board, especially how it’s going lately, but you do spell it out kind of. Only 65% voted, that’s 35% who just decided to like give up or something. A third of you. Then a third voted MAGA, a thorn other.
That’s the danger of the stupid third.
Right now, they are a danger for more than just Canadians.
I’m not trying to be an apologist. I’m just saying most of us aren’t that stupid, xenophobic, and racist. But some of us definitely are.
I disagree. Drive out to rural Ontario, read the literal Trump and PPC signs, we’re no better than any Red State.
Oof… sorry.
“Impeach Trudeau”
Americans always tell themselves these lies. Yes, only 65% voted, but the ones who didn’t vote weren’t all non-voting democrats. About half would have voted Trump if they’d voted. It’s not some small minority that supported Trump, it was a majority.
Not voting was a vote for anti democracy. So they got what they didn’t vote for.
The ones who preferred Harris, sure. The ones who preferred Trump got what they wanted without having to vote.
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4 of 10 never trusted them to begin with
I get it, but like, this isn’t something the American people did. This has been orchestrated over decades by the wealthiest evilest mfers on earth. Definitely dont trust our government and dont trust the red-hatted folks, but do realize that if this plays out how they want, all of the regular peiple of the world are going to need to set aside that distrust. It has spread to England and Germany. Canada wont be immune.
Americans still enabled it. Fuck em.
You’re telling me that people like Steve Bannon don’t go to Europe to spread their hateful shitty rhetoric all around the world? Or that 77 million that voted for Trump have nothing to do with his election?
I know it’s not “all of them”, but it’s a good chunk. It lowers the trust level in general, want it or not.
The American people control who is elected at the voting booth. THEY did this.
I’ve had beef with them ever since they dressed up in redface and threw a bunch of perfectly good tea into the Boston harbour. Quite rude, and they never apologized for it.
Especially because they were doing it to protect their smuggling profits, not out of some great and noble cause.
Ungrateful sods too, because a lot of the war debt that the tariffs were meant to pay off were the result of beating the French on the American continent so that it could be settled by English colonists. Ever wonder why so many places in the US have French names? Detroit, Louisville, St. Louis, Lafayette, Reno (a.k.a. Renault), Arkansas, Illinois…
Could have just not had the war…
Well, for that you’d have to talk to a certain English colonist named “George Washington”.
During a time when the English and French were technically at peace, this “Washington” fellow, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Virginia Regiment, ambushed a French detachment of 50 men, killing them all, including their commander who had been carrying a diplomatic message for the British.
This “Washington” fellow was a real fuck-up. Not only did he kick off the French and Indian war (also known as the 7 years war) by ambushing and killing a diplomatic courier during a time of peace, he then holed up in a fort which the French attacked and then he surrendered. When he surrendered, he signed a surrender document in which he took responsibility for assassinating Jumonville, the diplomatic courier.
This dude continued to fuck up too. He resigned his commission after this because as a colonial, he wasn’t allowed to have the rank he thought he deserved. A year later, he signed on as an aide to General Edward Braddock, who was planning to expel the French from Fort Duquesne. Washington came up with the master plan of splitting the army into a main column and a second smaller “flying column”. The French and their native allies ambushed the divided army and killed 2/3 of them, including General Braddock.
After a series of mistakes like that, I can only assume this guy faded into obscurity, forgotten as yet another failed son of a rich aristocrat. History is full of rich children like that who think they can play at “army” but who just keep screwing up.
And the British crown did not hang the British officer?
They probably should have. It might have changed history a bit if they had.
beef has gotten really expensive in the US.
Dw us and the injuns got pay back. How did reward them? Oh right…https://www.ontario.ca/page/indian-residential-schools
Ah yes. Native American. Famously for participating the the Boston tea… Hold on…
Are you a bot?
You know Canadians burn down the white house, right? And the first nation people were the one that led the atk? Right?
That’s one of my favorite facts about the long storied history between Canada and the USA.
Ha ha.
Strange way to bring up that particular atrocity.
Doesn’t seem to have any bearing on the subject matter of the OP, or the commenter you’re replying to.
Weird.
The parent comment alludes to “redface”
I hate that I’m lumped in with these people but I also understand.
Individuals are to be assessed and judged individually based on their own merit; but trust in the collective, particularly of those in a position of power has eroded so enormously that the ‘benefit of the doubt’ is lost.
There’s no choice but to assume the worst will happen; because of this, I will NEVER live in America. It will be a long long time before I even consider visiting, and for the foreseeable future I will continue to make an effort to not buy American products.
I’ve been removing American tech companies from my life over the last 5-10years, but I’ve been stepping up those efforts more recently and this is only more encouragement.
I’m lumped in with these people
Maybe at first glance, but first impressions aren’t everything. Everyone deserves a chance; keep your chin up m8. I wish you the best of luck in this crazy world. 🇨🇦
The other 4 didn’t trust them to begin with.
Many of my friends are American trans people desperate to be able to stay here, terrified of going back.
It took you guys this long ??
Canada needs a nuke now more than ever. Build it. And any time the orange fuckhead threatens annexation load it up in the silo.
Might need more than one but you got the spirit
Sure…the US will let a country park nukes next door. See what happened the last time someone tried that.
The Kim dynasty is still in power.
Rapist convict trump can suck it. We’ll burn down the White House again if he pisses around.
They will fail to invade? Maybe this bay can be called Canadian bacon.
And Canada has nukes already, they are just labelled “usa”
