still better than ios lol
Nah, /e/os and GrapheneOS rule!
I’m an /e/os user and all I can say is even though it sucks the least among its competition, it STILL SUCKS! Not to downplay the immense effort put in by the devs and maintainers of course. Providing a privacy-respecting phone OS to ordinary people isn’t just a good deed, it’s necessary for a vibrant and diverse digital society. But still, we can all strive for better.
By the way, do you know of any other OS except for GrafinoS that does not bundle any MicroG or other tether to Google? I like /e/os, but MicroG bothers me. Can it be uninstalled?
GrapheneOS has been working flawlessly for me for years. Highly recommend!
Check out crDroid. I do not know how it’s like to daily drive it, but afaik it’s highly customizable.
Tfw your Phone has no ROM and the stock one is trash.
I am currently considering switching to a 3rd custom rom on my xiaomi since both of the ones I have tried while better than the stock one by miles, seem to have no activity surrounding them (one was last updated almost 2 years ago and the one I am currently on has been updated in october).
Just sucks that its notsuch a mainline phone rhat gets lota of custom ROM support.
Gabe please make Linux mobile phone.
I want this too but I don’t get how you can call something like LineageOS dogshit.
It works perfectly.
I’m a desktop user mostly but my phone feels like the more polished experience
For sure. One or two super paranoid banking apps but literally everything else works great with microg.
I’ve even ditched microg a few years back.
Depending on your usage it might not be an option, but for me it didn’t make any difference
Sounds like OP was using an unnofficial miui port or smth like that
i maintain that my pixel running lineage with microg and magisk and some other stuff is about the best experience you can have on a phone
It works with 0 issues 97% of the time and never annoys me, and i have basically complete control over the device.
idk I enjoy LineageOS
But Linux for mobile exists, it is just not popular. For instance you can install Ubuntu Touch on certain phones.
Yeah, like the Nexus 5. Not anything you’d want to actually use today.
I looked into Ubuntu Touch last week as a potential alternative to Graphene on my Pixel 9.
The most recent Pixel it supports is the 3.
So Graphene it is then…
That’s still way newer than I thought. I guess they started updating it again.
Graphene so far is the slickest one.
This one right here, officer! They did it!
If only Arch Linux ARM existed… ;(
Came here to say the same thing. I’m very happy with sailfish OS since the first jolla phone came out (10+ years). I’m certainly not a power user though.
I had a great time (save for bugs) playing with a Sailfish OS 2(?) phone way back. Glad they’re still kicking.
Costs so much though. Thinking about what a phone even needs to do for me, what other handheld devices could work instead?
Steamdeck perhaps? Then a brick phone for calls/sms. Not too sure what would work as a lower spec and cheaper alternative to a Steamdeck and runs Linux though.
still better than ios lol
Yeah android has termux, termux is amazing, I run emacs in it and have all the power of org mode on my phone!
Yeah I am thinking of just don’t care about phones. Just the cheapest second hand thing I can get for calls, sms, ssh, vlc.
Maps would be nice, OsmAnd crashes frequently (out of memory?) on the tablet I got second hand.
it’s pretty weird that no company seems to have thought to just make a cheap minimal smartphone with a big battery and removable back cover, running a feature phone-esque modified android
feature phones just aren’t really feasible to use for most people these days, but that doesn’t mean the only alternatives have to be phones that try to wow you with 5 billion gigapixel AI enabled cameras
achtually, every Android phone is using the Linux kernel
achtually, every Android phone is using the Linux kernel
Yes and support for GNU/Linux applications is currently in beta.
Where would you even find a phone without a locked bootloader to even try this on other than a pixel, because, a google phone, to degoogle, really ? lol!
Volla phone has unlocked bootloader and ships with android or linux, some even have nativ dualboot
I have fairphone, it comes with unlockable bootloader. Don’t get the new ones tho, they suck. 3+ was the last good model before they drank the koolaid and removed the headphone jack.
I’m only using iOS because android is worse. Neither of them make me happy. IOS is just less terrible than Android.
The problem with a Linux phone is that there’s no market for it, and developing one is only possible if you fundamentally change what a Linux phone means thereby ruining it but getting profitability and therefore carrier support and manufacturer profitability.
We don’t get what we want. They do.
Basically this. I use my phone as a tool and Linux phones don’t have the toolset for me to be satisfied. Like NFC payment, online banking and GPS tracking. Android does have the toolset but I’d like to keep my phone 5 years and longer. Currently rocking an iPhone 14 Pro and I plan on changing it with the iPhone 20 or 30 or however they call that one on 5 years.
