The project is now being made available via a repo on cdm-project.com but how long that’s likely to last is unclear.
I’ve mirrored it to my own git server too https://git.ngram.ca/mirrors/cdrm-project I will ignore DCMAs because I (and the server) don’t live in the USA.
Canada might start ignoring DMCA as a whole if the idiots in my government keep harassing them. Maybe that’ll piss off Hollywood and friends in a useful way…
(Just ignore me laugh weeping at the prospect that billionaires stabbing each other in the back is the only thing I can look forward to in my country now)
There needs to be a widespread p2p solution for opensource projects before its too late. I have lost count of all the amazing stuff that has been gravity bombed from orbit.
There also needs to be a way for authors to submit things anonymously too and maybe sign their things with cryptographic keys to ID it. How many times has a company had a court order someone to cease and desist or simply acquire somebody’s work?
p2p solution for opensource projects
That’s called Git and it’s been around longer than GitHub. There is also Usenet which by now is mostly dead. People fell for centralized alternatives. Oops :)
Right? Git is literally decentralized. If you choose to use GitHub as a centralized Git service, that’s on you.
(I will caveat this by saying we moved 2009scape off GitHub and the number of new contributors probably got cut in half. Mainstream services have a lot more eyes)
2009scape is wonderful for those like me who need to scratch that RuneScape itch without a subscription. The fact I can play it off of a USB is testament to itself how incredibly awesome you guys are. Thank you for the project, sincerely. :')
How come Git is decentralized?
Doesnt it need a central component so I can pull your changes?Edit: Thanks to all that explained it to me :)
Fundamentally, the repository you have on GitHub is the same thing as the repository you have on your computer when you clone it. Pulling and pushing are shorthands for synchronizing commits between the two repositories, but you could also synchronize them directly with somebody else who cloned the repository. As somebody mentioned, you can also just host the same repository on two servers, and push to both of them.
The issue is that git doesn’t include convenient features like issues, pull requests, CI, wikis, etc., and by extensions, those aren’t included in your local repository, so if GitHub takes them down, you don’t have a copy.
An extra fun fact is that git can be considered a blockchain. It’s a distributed ledger of immutable commits, each one representing a change in state relative to the previous one. Everybody who clones a repository gets a copy of its entire history and fast forwards through the changes to calculate the current state.
But to push/pull you’d in theory need to port forward your git server/workstation, right?
Git works through ssh. So you need the same system as sshing into your machine. You just make a user group git and then let git and ssh handle things. And if you don’t need people to push to your repo, then it’s a lot easier as it’s now similar to hosting a website/file server.
Git exposes a lot of internals through odd commands, so I suspect you could manage synchronization by sending changes over email or something.
Bonus fun fact: there’s a
git bundlecommand that “dumps” the repository into a single file, that can be interacted with as a remote. So if you’re ever working with a local repository and want to put it on a server over ssh or something like that, you can just create a bundle, scp it over, and clone from that on the server.
Git is, but it has no process of discovery or hosting by itself. Those are needed to efficiently share open source software to large numbers of people.
You’d think Usenet is dead.
It’s not.Oh boy it’s not! But mainly for binaries
git is clearly not p2p in the needed level or else we wouldn’t have faced this problem
It’s not always takedowns either, just the developer deciding to nuke their own repos. Real annoying, although it’s making me more vigilant about forking/mirroring important repos.
I found https://radicle.xyz/ but I’ve never used this technology before. Maybe someone can shed some light?
I2p has a git service
All you need for this is a global overlay network and a global DNS untied from physical infrastructure. Cryptographic identities (hash of pubkey will do) instead of IP addresses (because NATs are PITA and too many people use mobile devices behind big bad NATs), and finding (in something like Kademlia) records signed by authority you yourself chose to trust instead of asking DNS.
Then come encryption and dynamic routing and synchronization of published states.
One can have some kind of Kademlia for discovery of projects too, but on the next level.
I2P comes close, but it’s more focused on anonymity.
OK, I’m not sure what I wrote makes sense. These things are easy to grasp somehow, but hard to understand well.
OK, I’m not sure what I wrote makes sense. These things are easy to grasp somehow, but hard to understand well.
yeah it seems you forgot what you wanted to say midway.
to extend on it, I2P, Tor and other mixnets provide the only safe way currently to host projects that others don’t like, because such sites cannot be taken down. that’s both a blessing and a curse
I wanted to say something about easily hosting searchable repositories, and solving a few of the problems because of which the Web as it exists still has users.
Open-source projects are quiet safe on Github. Maybe don’t push illegal code? Seems pretty obvious to me.
Do you forget who determines what is illegal?
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I was wondering why these types of open source projects always push to Github, despite the latter always complying with DMCA. (I get that Github provides discoverabilty features, but it just isn’t worth it to have all your work taken down).
On a similar note, has anyone tried out https://radicle.xyz/? It’s supposed to actually make use of git’s peer to peer nature (and not the client server model that everyone adopts with git) and ideally provide discoverability features.
The said I’ve only read the faq and haven’t actually tried it myself. Basically I’m wondering if it’s worth doing a deep dive on this technology
Give CodeBerg a look. It’s starting to pick up some steam.
A lot of my favorite open source android apps have been switching to CodeBerg. Some of my less than legal ones have moved to Telegram, unfortunately. That aside, CodeBerg is great and hopefully it will gain even more traction soon.
It’s nice that Obtainium supports CodeBerg, too. I have a few must-have apps that I like to keep up to date straight from their repositories.
It doesn’t catch on because entry level devs love committing private keys
Widevine, BTW, is a Google product that all the browser vendors agree to use. Its the only reason HTML5 has gotten anywhere.
Its crazy that we can’t agree on any international rules except the ones that protect IP hoarding
This just implies that the Microsoft employee was an OnlyFans subscriber simp.
The mentioned repositories enable and encourage criminal behavior. And it’s quiet intentional. It’s because of piracy that we have DRM in the first place. The audacity now of pirates to wine about them not getting what they want like the entire world revolves just around them.
Format-shifting and time-shifting your legally acquired and licensed media is not illegal. If the DRM is preventing someone from doing that then it is within their rights to remove the DRM. Recall that not everyone lives in a country subject to the draconian DMCA law.
Are you serious right now? You can’t actually believe ordinary people will go out of their way to visit some random Github repository just to remove the DRM for their convenience. I guarantee you that 100% of contributers and users of that repo are doing piracy.
oh you’re very confidently wrong, I very much will, you corporate bootlicker
Baseless (and also wrong) assumption that piracy is responsible for by any means significant monetary losses aside, there are other reasons for bypassing that DRM bullshit. Like, off the top of my head:
- archiving – when you don’t have a local copy of a piece of content, it can be changed or deleted at any time;
- ability to access stuff on a wider range of devices – I want to be able watch my favorite coomtent creator in full resolution on my phone that has only L3 and quite outdated version of widevine without installing proprietary crapp, so what;
- bypassing bullshit restrictions – not sure if onlyfans in particular does that, but we have Netflix, for example, that would tell you to fuck off when you’re not watching from home be it VPN or an actually different location when traveling.
They know all that. They want you to be able to only consume content the exact they they publish it.
That simplifies market analysis, removes the dilemma of supporting or not supporting some other way users want, and ideally selling the same thing a few times.
They want you to be able to only consume content the exact they they publish it.
And they have every right to do so. If you like it or not. You don’t own and have not created the protected content. On what basis are you deciding it should not be DRM protected?
On what basis are you deciding it should not be DRM protected?
they have literally given 3 of such bases
And they have every right to do so.
morally, no. cartoon mouse says, yes.
On what basis are you deciding it should not be DRM protected?
they have literally given 3 of such bases
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On the basis of having bought it. If they haven’t sold it but made such an impression, then they’ve committed a crime.
When you are buying a cure against all problems with miniscule text saying it’s just a metaphor, the seller is committing a crime. It’s the same here.
Morally. Regardless of how courts interpret this right now. That feature that courts and practice officially do not equal morality and thus we can decide differently this time, if we can provide an explanation, is the main advantage of English legal system and those descended from it over others.
Also baseless assumptions.
Btw, you don’t need to use whatever service you don’t own if you disagree with their practices. DRM is shit. But you’re not in any position to elevate yourself above that. You don’t own the services and you have not contributed in creating the protected content. You have no right to decide anything.
Agreed to disagree then. IMO, if a company thinks it’s OK to throw me over the dick hiding behind being afraid of shadows, deny me access to legally obtained content on my devices, walk back on previous deals, and so on, then I have no problem with getting unrestricted access to stuff they decided I don’t technically own. Fuck the fucker, simple as that.
By subscribing you agree to a contract. The company is doing no shitty practice since everything is black and white in the contract. You just don’t like the contract. But the consequence should be to not sign it.
Even buying physical media, they claim you still don’t own the content, are only leasing it. It’s all bullshit to charge more and give us less. Stop defending this practice of eroding consumer rights
Nobody is eroding consumer rights. The consumer rights haven’t changed. Maybe it’s time to change that. Change legislation and stop pirating like monkeys.
Accessing content I paid for isn’t pirating. And corporations have been working in eroding our ownership of the things we pay for years now. You can stop pretending they haven’t
The company is doing no shitty practice since everything is black and white in the contract.
Unconscionability says otherwise.
Yea you’re above the law and everyone else. I’ve hear this plenty of times.
You are the one who elevates random terms of service above the law just because both parties “agreed” to them, not me.
Yeah, right. Because those contracts are set in stone, and our corporate overlords won’t ever take away the advertised ability to download books you’ve paid for, not to mention those very contracts being written in human-readable format and not lawyer speak. \s
The contract states you don’t own it and they can take it away any time. So why are you stupid to sign it? Buy a physical book if you don’t like it. But there is no justification for piracy like “I don’t get exactly what I want so I now decide that I have the moral right to do whatever I want with indefinitely.”
Bypassing DRM isn’t criminal behaviour.
Your whole series of posts in this thread are seriously unhinged. Are you trying to cosplay a corpo bootlicker or something?
It’s either that or you’ve been born wealthy enough to never have to think about the money you spend.
You’re working for the same corpos and you’re getting payed. You’re part of the system and you’re profiting off it. We get rid of DRM tomorrow but you get a 20% salary reduction. Would you do it? I think you wouldn’t. So why would they? You guys are pretentious and can’t think past the simplest complexities of an economic system.
The only jobs I’ve ever had were teaching and nursing, both paid by the country I live in, not some private entity. I don’t even own a car or a TV, nor do I live in the US for that matter.
Get your head out of your ass and realise there’s more to life than fucking money. I was born poor and will die poor, but I don’t give a shit because I at least know I helped some people along the way.
Jfc, the bubble some live in. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I guess you’re not even capable of that, are ya?
