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    Boy, it sure is a good thing that Sony charges a subscription fee for any and all network multiplayer traffic.

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      And 99% of the games I “own”. So much for a relaxing Saturday playing games. Fuck you Sony.

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      Boy, it sure is a good thing that Sony backed off charging a subscription fee for single player PC games

      Or should I say, BOY

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        To be clear, that was not a thing. Just the PSN account doesn’t require payment. The subscription is for playing in MP and (I think) access to online media like yt.

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          The account is step one to lock you into their ecosystem to then force payment plans.

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            Probably, but it hasn’t been on the table yet. Saying that it was is just going to hurt valid criticism.

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              Why trust a company that already charges people to play online after buying the console, and the game…

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            It worked the other way for me, seeing it locked me out because I am not agreeing to that

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      Unless the game has its own subscription, like Final Fantasy XIV.

      Unless that has changed over the years. I’m not sure.

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      Last night I thought “this happened a few years ago, too, and we got free games as an apology” and now you tell me it was 14 YEARS ago!?

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      Your making me feel old… I remember when it happened. I was so pissed I couldn’t play call of duty.

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        You’re making ME feel old. I remember having to go over my friend’s house to play multiplayer.

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          Right??? Grab your NES cartridge, and make sure to grab the one that you borrowed from your friend last week. Throw them in your bookbag, and pedal your bike while your mom has no real way of knowing where you are. Sure you SAY you’re going to Jimmys house, but it’s not like you have a GPS tracker. And even if you did, how would your mom follow that that tracker? Go to the FBI and use their super computers??? Maybe you’d like her to ask for the nuke launch codes while she’s there. Just be back home before the street lights come on, or dad’s beating your ass!

          Ah, the 80s. What a magical time. A magical time of AIDS epidemics, wars on drugs causes by and fought by the government, toxic toys not being recalled, and everybody being too dumb to care.

          Nowadays, kids don’t even HAVE bikes! You throw your kids into a strangers car, call it uber, and use technology the 1980s government would have dreamed of having to make sure your kid goes to that little shit Jimmys house.

          Everytime I remember the world I grew up in, and then look around at the world I’m in, I feel like I’m missing a big piece of what happened. These two worlds don’t line up. Like when I see old photos of my dad, from the 60s, I say “Yep, that sure looks like what my dad would look like if he were young”. But when I look at the 80s, I think “that sure seems like a totally unrelated society. One in which absolutely did NOT age into this world…”

          I don’t understand life.

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            I was born early 90s and always had a bike, so kids not use them anymore, or is it a regional thing?

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      I remember being so happy that outage happened because they gave away free games. That’s how I got to play LittleBigPlanet for the first time.

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      They gave out Wipeout and infamous for free out of that, I got a lot of play time out of those two games.

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    Sony’s uptime delusions crumbling faster than a PSN auth server. Fourteen hours of radio silence while charging for the privilege of digital serfdom? Masterstroke. Remember 2011’s month-long outage? At least we got free games as consolation—now they’ll just send thoughts and prayers via shareholder memos.

    ”Premium service” my ass. Paywalls for multiplayer, cloud saves held hostage, and a walled garden rotting from neglect. But hey, keep funding Zuck’s yacht repairs while your PS5 gathers dust. The 2011 apology tour is dead—2025’s mantra is ”fuck you, pay more.”

    Reboot the servers, Jim. Or just admit the cloud was a screensaver all along.

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    If only there were a way to connect to a network without an intermediary like PSN. Damn shame that it’s impossible.

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    This doesn’t bode well.

    The last time this happened was when Anonymous hacked PSN and took them down for a month after they went after Geohotz(cant remember the spelling) for jailbreaking/reverse engineering the ps3.

    Radio silence like before as well. I hope they weren’t breached again.

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    I’ve never thought about it before, but I wonder if the companies with games containing microtransactions can ask PSN for compensation for lost income due to long outages.

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      I knew a guy who did this with Comcast for every minute his Internet was out. He’d call them every day for weeks until they cut him an account credit

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        I tried this in the first place I lived at where I paid for my own internet, which was Comcast at the time.

        They said (paraphrasing because it was a long time ago) their contract specified they were not responsible for any outages, nor any income lost due to same. I don’t know if that’s true, but I was young and naive and accepted it at face value.

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          Outages are a thing of the past since I switched to 4G. If you asked me in 2010 if 4G of all things would be better than a wired connection I would never have believed it.

          It’s fast enough and never had an outage. Once in the past year I rotated the antenna to point at a different mast because it was being a little slow. I assume cell towers are a higher priority of infrastructure as they serve more people, and as there are multiple I can connect to there is also redundancy.

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            This was back in 2006 or so. I don’t recall if 4G was around then, but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t available as an internet provider. If it was, I wasn’t aware.

            I’m pretty happy with my current internet solution, but I’ll keep your suggestion in mind. Thank you!

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              My first reason for going 4G was general distaste that all the wired providers leave me with. Awful pricing models where they charge less for 4 months then more for 20 and then loads indefinitely kinda thing and I just decided fuck that. I think there is a bit more competition for the 4G side of things too.

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    Musk is currently reviewing it for DEI terms. Also Trump just fired the Sony board and declared himself president of Sony.

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    Damn reading the impact this has is some combination of hilarious and horrifying to see people bought into a service like this. If it was free or simply a monthly sub like Netflix I could kinda understand. But a sub to use things you also had to buy? Fuck that.

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      Not sure if this is still the case, but with Steam it used to be that if you didn’t put the client into “offline mode” ahead of time the client wouldn’t open, let alone allow you to launch a game once the connection was lost.

      I hope they took care of that by now.

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        At least in 2013 when I started using Steam more seriously if your connection dropped it would prompt you asking if you wanted to switch to offline mode. And I know this because I had Steam on a laptop that I carried in my bag hibernating and I didn’t had internet in some places I went to. So that has been fixed for over a decade.

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          So that has been fixed for over a decade.

          they fixed that, but if you are connected to WiFi that blocks steam it will refuse to launch your games even after you disconnect from the WiFi. I think this is to prevent piracy I guess??

          I needed a software that I bought on steam for schoolwork and I couldn’t use it because steam was having a panic attack over my schools wifi. Inst of preventing piracy I went and pirated the software to not have that issue LOL

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        Pretty sure they did a while ago

        Especially with the steam deck, you’re not going to have Internet available everywhere

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      Tbf all platforms have this. Steams not much better. Neither is the Xbox ecosystem. We truly are in the worst timeline.

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        The difference is if steam goes down I might not be able to play a few games. If xbox (what is their service?) goes down you can’t play any games.

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    Finally picked up kingdom come 2 on my ps5 just to dust it off after not playing for years and this is my weekend. Well played Sony, well played

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      I was looking at that game. Looks really cool. I’m interested to see a more historically based rpg game without mages and whatnot. I think it’s based on some section of polish history?

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        It’s the sequel to the first one, and historical accuracy was like, at the center of of that one. Your character starts off the game not knowing how to read, because in medieval Europe, literacy was not widespread and the son of a blacksmith certainly wouldn’t know how to read, so books you pick up in the game are total gibberish until you learn to read.

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        It’s like the anti pirating software. Drm? Can’t tell if I own it or not.

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    I’ve been playing so much kingdom come deliverance 2 that I didn’t even notice PSN being down.

    If you like RPGs try it.

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      Isn’t it linear story based though? I prefer open ended, been playing a lot of bannerlord recently

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        I never played the first one. I just watched a story recap.

        The gameplay isn’t janky just brutally difficult and unforgiving. It goes for realism above all. I’m really liking it but I’m only maybe halfway through the story.

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    “Did you remember to plug the server back in after vacuuming the server room?”

    “Shit.” "Honey, gotta make a quick jump at the office! "

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    It annoys me that you can’t even look at your trophies for games when PSN is down…

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    Better than every year or so no one can play the games they supposedly “bought” due to some technical hiccup for a random yet lengthy amount of time than some percentage of people be able to more easily play our games without paying us. -some Sony/gaming industry stooge probably

    In all seriousness, people need to stop being so willing to put up with this sort of easily foreseeable failing with the current way of doing digital goods. If I can’t use it without the blessing of someone else it is not buying, it is borrowing, and that severely impacts the value proposition for me personally.

    Technical issues WILL happen. It is the nature of the beast, it is just terrible engineering to build what is essentially dead man switches into your customers products.

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    Spoilers: it’s the weekend and some hard drive is full. Japanese uptake of the cloud was lagging, and I fully anticipate that PSN isn’t utilising any big cloud providers scalabaility and we’re now waiting on Jim, who is on a long weekend (and well earnt!) to reboot/add more storage/logrotate