LG and Samsung have both announced their 2025 smart TVs at CES this weekend, and some of them will include access to Microsoft’s Copilot AI assistant. Both TV manufacturers are chasing the artificial intelligence hype train with dedicated AI sections on their smart TVs that include a shortcut to a Copilot web app.
LG is adding an entire AI section to its TVs and rebranding its remote to “AI Remote,” in an effort to sell consumers on the promise of large language models. While it’s not clear exactly how Copilot works on LG’s latest TVs, the company describes access to Copilot as a way to allow users to “efficiently find and organize complex information using contextual cues.”
LG hasn’t demonstrated its Copilot integration just yet, but it has shown off its own AI Chatbot that’s part of its TVs. It appears Copilot will be surfaced when LG TV users want to search for more information on a particular subject.
Samsung also has its own Vision AI brand for its AI-powered TV features this year, which include AI upscaling, Auto HDR Remastering, and Adaptive Sound Pro. There’s also a new AI button on the remote to access AI features like recognizing food on a screen or AI home security features that analyze video feeds from smart cameras.
Microsoft’s Copilot will be part of this Vision AI section. “In collaboration with Microsoft, Samsung announced the new Smart TVs and Smart Monitors featuring Microsoft Copilot,” says Samsung in a press release. “This partnership will enable users to explore a wide range of Copilot services, including personalized content recommendations.”
I asked Samsung for more information or images of Copilot in action, but the company doesn’t have anything more to share right now. I’ve also asked LG and Microsoft for more information about Copilot on TVs and neither company has responded in time for publication. Without any indication of exactly how Copilot works on these TVs, I’m going to chalk this one up as a gimmicky feature that LG, Samsung, and Microsoft clearly aren’t ready to demo yet.
In every cyberpunk story, there is always a group of people that reject the new technology and claim it is an affront to humanity. I can safely say, in this dystopian future we live in, I am solidly in that group of people.
It’s not even that.
The technology never, ever works as well as it’s hyped. It’s a sales ploy, not a feature.
The purpose is always data collection, and the data is always leaked.
Vulnerabilities and the progression of tech make these kinds of bells and whistles age out of practical use faster, costing the consumer more over the long run.
F this kind of noise in particular, this is not progress.
The purpose is always data collection, and the data is always leaked.
Yeah. You’re welcome. Since 2010 or so, if I have a robot say something like “in a sentence or two, please tell me the reason for your call”
I always say “JXEHGSJHN KFUJVDR OIFHJBD4HB”
And it’s just garbage data. Their AI gets all freaked out.
There was a time that I’d go into mcdonalds and use their self serve kiosk, and do the same thing. I’d wear a jason mask, and speak jibberish. Which is in the lobby of the mcdonalds.
Always got weird looks. So I’d say “What? You never saw anybody save the world before? Resist the machines! AI is trying to learn!!! We’ve all seen Terminator 2!!!”
Which continued to get me weird looks. However, nothing I did is illegal. Just really weird without context. Which is how I live my life. Drifting in and out of percieved sanity. Things only making sense if you know the context.
Like last week I went grocery shopping wearing a pirate costume.
See, the context here is…I like wearing it.
Not only that, but they tend to adopt the new tech on their terms and reject the mainstream adoption approach.
You really start to feel old when the cyberpunk novels of the 80s and 90s start to become reality (not in a literal sense, but elements are definitely coming true). It was 40 years since Neuromancer was released last year.
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TL;DR: “We can’t say what exactly it does, but we’re gonna add it.”
If that isn’t the best endorsement of their new tech. Personally the only AI function I want is skipping ads and I’m pretty sure that one will not be available.
Miss the days when you could buy a dumb TV and add the tech you wanted.
You can still, they do have HDMI ports.
They are still paying for the “”“smart”“” part that they don’t want
The smart part of a large TV is cheap. Also why they’re slow af. The price is dominated by the LCD module.
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Every time I asked for a high-quality, non-RGB/backlight, yet affordable keyboard, people never understood that I’d still pay for it.
Nothing is stopping them from adding the smart crap to things over HDMI inputs. If it doesn’t have it at launch, I recommend blocking it from getting updates so you don’t get “upgraded” later.
Yes they do and I do add my own tech but my experience with some of these devices has not been great.
I have LG TVs which I connected to the network and have been updated over the years to have really bad UX and are now polluted with ads.
I had an LG sound bar that was great for a while until it completely stopped working. Powers on, all functions seem to work, just no sound. Originally it worked as a Chromecast device too, but they stopped doing updates and Google stopped working with the old API.
My fear is that eventually there will be an update that bricks a device. Now I’ve taken them off the network, but how long before we have TVs that require Internet to even function.
These smart TVs have a lot more hardware and software than they need which means a lot more to break.
You just have to deal with all the smart garbage every time you turn it on
There’s usually a way to get it to jump to the last input.
This news is reminding me that I need to unplug my TV from the Internet.
This scares me if I have to buy a new one, because I’d completely forgotten my TV has smart functions, I haven’t seen a trace of it for years with a Pi hooked up on the HDMI. It just starts up to the last input it was on. Heck, I turn it on with Home Assistant Voice automation that sends a CEC command to it over that HDMI. I haven’t even used the remote in months.
Yeah mine takes forever to boot.
Every TV model sold by Costco is required to work without an internet connection.
Copilot can fuck off
Adding AI to your TV? Stupid.
Adding Copilot AI to your TV? Turbostupid.
To this day I don’t understand how Microsoft paid OpenAI $Texas to license their tech and used it to make… ChatGPT, only worse.
I just bought a new LG TV with QNED screen. It will NEVER be connected to the Internet, or any network. The ‘smart’ part might as well not exist on the TV.
Not even one time for a firmware update?
I’m in this same situation and at least for me, no, not even once for a firmware update.
If the TV is displaying the image that’s coming from whatever input source I’m using, then the firmware is already just fine.
Fair, but I mean, there could be bugfixes, etc, that’ s what firmware updates are for.
I’m not arguing with you really, but at least one firmware update opportunity seems like a good practice for just about everything, IMO. I have a current Samsung TV, and it has been allowed to connect via my guest network exactly one time, after which I deleted the relevant settings.
I use my TV as basically just a dumb display panel. If it can display 4k/60, then there is no bug that needs to be fixed. I don’t even use built-in audio.
I connected my other TV to my network once when my Nvidia Shield wasn’t working. That TV is still showing advertisements in the main menu for shows that were released 3 years ago.
Your use case is nearly identical to mine. Still wanted to be sure there weren’t bugs in HDR or other display features that needed to be addressed.
Look I’m not saying ZOMG HOW CAN YOU NOT GET A FIRMWARE UPDATE, I’m just surprised both that so many people don’t and that so many people don’t even seem to see why they might want to.
I completely understand what you’re saying; in general, I tend to agree that if a firmware update is available, it’s best to install it. I keep the firmware up to date on all my networking equipment, and the first thing I do when I set up a new PC is install Windows updates (or apt-get update in Linux).
I have two TVs. One in the living room, and one in the bedroom. After the brief time I had my bedroom TV connected to my network, it immediately started serving me advertisements. I hate ads with a passion. When it comes to network security, privacy probably comes second to blocking ads in terms of priority. When it came time to replace my living room TV, I first tried to repair it, but after spending too much on a replacement mainboard that didn’t do shit, I just bought a new TV. There was no way in hell I was letting it connect to the internet and download advertisements.
I have an extensive Zigbee network for home automation, 10GB fiber links between my servers and my home office, etc. My home is very much “connected.” TVs are just one of those things that I will never, ever, under any circumstances, allow to connect to anything other than a video cable. If I’m paying $1000 or more for a device, I’ll be damned if it’s going to show me advertisements.
You’re wasting your breath. These people are smart enough to know that you can connect (hell, even to an ad-hoc network if you’re so f’king paranoid) once to FW update then hard-reset. These people are just being pissy. They also know that “IF dIsPLaY PIcTuRe No BUg PosSiBLe” are absolutely lying to themselves because they’re not actually that technically illiterate.
I hate it when people pretend to be dumb just to continually underscore a feeble point.
I was coming around to that conclusion, but thank you for validating it! :)
If you want to do firmware updates on a “disconnected” TV, i would recommend putting the firmware update on a usb stick and update the TV that way.
What so they can update their tv to add Microsoft’s ai shit?
Firmware update for a TV, what a time to be alive.
I had firmware updates for a 1080 Philips TV from ~2010.
You could do it via USB.
I mean, they’ve been displays connected to a mini computer for awhile now…
Can’y speak for every TV, but some of them should support downloading the firmware update from the manufacturer, tossing it on a USB stick, and plugging the USB into the TV to update.
Why would I want a firmware update?
Just use a thumb drive
LG and Samsung are bigger idiots than I gave them credit for being.
My company orders a thousand TVs a month and we’ve dropped Samsung all together unless a client specifically requests it. I hated them when I was an installer (terrible to mount and configure, especially the Frame TVs) and now I hate them on the pre-sales side of things.
We looked into LG but they’re kind of a pain to get quotes from.
We default to Sony now.
Former smart TV app developer. I’m going to drive my old dumb lcd TV into the ground before I’m forced to use a “smart” TV.
I prefer casting, but for convenience for my wife, we have a fire tv stick.
I want my panels rendering, not thinking / reporting.
Oh my god, fucking stop. Nobody wants this. Nobody asked for this.
Advertisers are begging for it. The ability to ingest your data at record scale and bombard you with privatized propaganda as fee-for-service is hugely in demand.
Just have to recognize that these appliances aren’t for you to control. This is Microsoft’s world and we’re just renting space in it.
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Absolutely.
Yo dawg I put spies in your spies
Adding artificial unintelligence to a “”““smart””“” device is a move that I expected from a corpo shit
The A in AI just stands for Ads.
Just imagine how much money Microsoft must be investing in this mass surveillance program they are trying to sneak in under the guise of the AI in charge of its indexing.
This is what happens when rich people and corporations have too much investment money. They get convinced by some technology they think kinda works then dump an ungodly amount of money into it.
Uber is still pushing around investor money over 10 years later and until we start cutting rich people off this stupid AI stuff won’t die like it should.
What the fuck is the point of putting “AI” into a fucking TV, other than to have something else to spy on you?
