• MalReynolds@slrpnk.netEnglish
    22016·
    11 个月前

    Someone just removed many lifetimes of CO2 emissions with a couple of lines of code.

    Shame that usage will just expand to fill the gap. Thanks late stage capitalism. Degrowth.

    • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml
      872·
      11 个月前

      Wasn’t expecting this under a random unrelated post. A very welcome comment nonetheless.

      Never forget that the exponential boom of renewable energy tech the last 20 years has entirely served as additional energy, not as replacement of fossil fuels.

        • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml
          35·
          11 个月前

          Why would you assume I am talking about Europe which accounts for 1/10 of the global energy consumption and why would I be talking the continent that has mostly outsourced its heavy industry to third world countries? Why would you assume this?

          https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-primary-energy?time=2000..latest

          Here’s your source. Here’s your total energy consumption. It couldn’t have been that hard to look at our world in data right? How can you be so absolutely wrong about data in plain sight while being confident about it? Do you have an agenda?

            • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml
              31·
              11 个月前

              My “attitude” in no way excuses the very offensive remarks on your part, but I guess that’s what happens when you try to defend undefendable claims. You jump from claim to claim, when you are proven wrong, like how you edited out the part where you claim the European trend can be extrapolated to the entire world and you personally attack me with the excuse that I was taken aback by the ignorance on a straightforward Google search.

              From what you remember (from where? That’s a good question I guess no one will ever answer us apparently)that does not make up for the overall downwards trend of consumption and emissions. Ok let’s deconstruct that quickly. Consumption has not been decreasing, it has been increasing, proven by the ever rising GDP, which measures exactly that, the total output of goods and services and considering the imports and exports are roughly equal for Europe and that material consumption is coupled to gdp, that’s the consumption.

              When I say that Europe has outsourced its heavy industry to third world countries, I wasn’t talking just about “importing goods”. I was talking about their entire production. And the fact that fossil fuel consumption is still ever growing in Europe as well as in the entire West, coupled to the GDP growth is proven in Hickel(2019) “Is green growth possible”, where the domestic material consumption index is proven not to be accounting for the outsourced fossil fuels and materials consumed in third world countries to produce the goods imported, vital for Europe. The actual material footprint(which is the fossil fuel consumption and materials combined) is growing along with the GDP. And when you understand this, you realize it is all an illusion of accounting.

              These are your two tragically false claims. For the third paragraph I don’t have much to say besides that third world countries need to increase their GDP to be living comfortably since they are destitute and the first world countries need to degrow like we said. Scientists have been saying this for so many years. There is a space between planetary boundaries and the decent living conditions that all people can and should be living in. The west exceeds the planetary limits(per capita), the economic south is below decent living conditions. That’s what degrowth preaches. It refers to the west, not the world in general.

    • oldfart@lemm.ee
      49·
      11 个月前

      Yeah, one man did hours of profiling and the other made the patch more elegant lol

      • bluewing@lemm.ee
        7·
        11 个月前

        Kind of like the butcher who got his hands dirty cutting a steak and then a Michelin star chef cooking it for you.

        One got his hands bloody. The other made it delectable for you to eat.

        Which is more important to the process?

      • argarath@lemmy.world
        2·
        11 个月前

        He took the authorization for a bunch of Russians from being able to keep working on the Linux stuff. I’m def not remembering everything and I’d suggest you searching any news about it, it’s an interesting read

        • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          5·
          11 个月前

          From being able to work on Linux stuff without having their contributions reviewed by someone else.

          It’s an important distinction many seem to miss.

  • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
    141·
    11 个月前

    Great, now we’re not going to catch the next zero day compression vulnerability. :)

      • clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world
        14·
        11 个月前

        He would only escape if he was a presidential candidate or a multi billionaire.

        Since he is neither and he works on US soil, then the law came after him. You would cave in, if in similar circumstances.

      • GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
        11177·
        11 个月前

        I already explained my point about it. A lot of companies rebased themselves when political issues occured. The Linux Foundation could easily do that. It’s just racism.

        • Hemuphone@lemmy.world
          1206·
          11 个月前

          Sanctions against a country/nation that is attacking another sovereign nation are not “racist”. Russia could easily stop their war to start getting rid of the sanctions.

            • Hemuphone@lemmy.world
              281·
              11 个月前

              So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where? Sorry that was such a bad argument that I did not even consider it being one.

              Why would they relocate? To keep a few Russian maintainers? Because not relocating is “racist”? Not sure what you mean, just trying to guess.

              • GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
                135·
                11 个月前

                So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where?

                Somewhere stable and neutral like Switzerland or some island. I’m not a lawyer so can’t say which country is the best for it.

                Because not relocating is “racist”?

                To some extent, yes.

                • winterayars@sh.itjust.works
                  20·
                  11 个月前

                  Switzerland is currently sanctioning Russia. Let me say that again to be clear: moving to Switzerland, the most neutral country in the world, will not prevent you from having to abide by sanctions against Russia.

                • Tattorack@lemmy.world
                  213·
                  11 个月前

                  “Russian” is not a race. And Finland has a history with Russia that isn’t easily forgotten. That is to say, every Finn I’ve spoken to hates Russia for invading Finland… Twice…

                  Finland isn’t even the only neighbour that hates Russia. At some point one has to wonder why so many of Russia’s neighbours hate, or at the very least don’t feel comfortable with, Russia.

                  Maybe, just maybe, the reason why everyone is having issues with Russia is Russia’s own damn fault.

        • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
          1116·
          11 个月前

          Counter argument: The maintainers could “easily” relocate to a country that is not currently conducting an invasion to enlarge its territory.

          • ___@lemm.ee
            16·
            11 个月前

            Do they? They could have just isolated those commits as sanctioned and added a warning. Linux hates Russians as a Finn, so didn’t need much convincing to remove them.

            I would be singing a different tune if our allies invading other countries at the moment were also sanctioned, but that’s not the case.

            As it stands, let the individuals escape the nation state punishment. They didn’t start this war, and likely don’t support it.

            • Mereo@lemmy.ca
              31·
              11 个月前

              Rationally speaking, the whole purpose of sanctions is to sanction the whole population of the country in order to get the government of the country to change it’s policies. And when it comes to sanctions, companies and entities doing business with the sanctioned countries are themselves sanctioned. So Linus had no choice but to remove the Russian contributors.

              We’re talking about a real situation, not about what would be better.

        • winterayars@sh.itjust.works
          121·
          11 个月前

          “A lot of companies” completely left the sphere of influence of basically any country except Russia? Doubt.

          I know the company i work for has to take similar steps when the sanctions went into effect, for example. Same as almost everyone.

        • uis@lemm.ee
          11·
          11 个月前

          …it’s not. It is stupid, it stalls mainlining of Baikal, but it is not a racism.

        • BCsven@lemmy.ca
          93·
          11 个月前

          They are bound by USA sanction law, moving to another NATO country would be same sanctions against Russia

    • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.worldEnglish
      161·
      11 个月前

      You think open source project maintainers should move to different countries because of temporary sanctions? What if they have a wife with a job and kids in school? Or delicate Lego collections that are impossible to pack? Or a side-piece?

      Take issue with the sanctions if you want but don’t take issue with people who don’t want to move their family, LEGO collections, and side-pieces.

      • winterayars@sh.itjust.works
        52·
        11 个月前

        There are hundreds of Linux developers, including companies like Red Hat, Intel, IBM, Google, and more. You want all these people to up and move to… where? Somewhere. Russia, or a Russian ally presumably but hell if i know. Anyway you want them all to move so a handful of people working for Russian weapons manufacturing companies can keep maintaining pieces of the Linux kernel?

        This is obviously a non-serious suggestion.

      • GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
        419·
        11 个月前

        Move physically? Of course not. If it’s required to register the foundation, they could ask a maintainer from the country to register it. It’s not the cleanest of schemes but it should work. Though if Linus lives in the US now, it can still cause issues because US law system has been proven to not work and they could easily arrest him illegally if they wanted to. However in this case it’s the same as living in Russia. Both countries are terroristic.