I remember reading that when national parks tried to make a ‘bear-proof’ trashcan, they found that there was a larger overlap between the smartest bear and the stupidest human to make a viable product.
I feel like it’s a similar situation here. The smartest kid and the stupidest adult are far more similar than we’d like to admit.
Tbh I find it much more surprising that there’s an overlap of bears and stupid people than I do smart kids and dumb adults.
I’ve met an unfortunate amount of people that would struggle to dump water out of their boots with the instructions written on the bottom of the sole.
Bears can be trained to drive cars and communicate through various means, it’s thought they may be as smart as great apes like gorillas. This is why they were a choice circus animal for a long time.
Yes, this should be terrifying information.
They also shit in the woods & wipe their asses with bunny rabbits.
DON’T BELIEVE THE CHARMIN PROPAGANDA
is that a point for or against bears?
Depends on your bunny rabbit stance, I reckon.
bunny rabbits are a renewable resource.
Unfortunately for the bears, it’s duck season, not wabbit season!
I mean… a kid would probably do the same, given the chance, right?
I’m going with For, definitely a point For bears.
Yes
A bear on my road has learned to open cars by using the door handle. Pretty amazing. It got into mine, ate something sugary, and left with no damage other than mud absolutely everywhere.
Now I lock my car doors at night with respect for this boss bear.
You can’t just get my hopes up and not give us a video of a bear driving a car!!
It’s less idiocy and more laziness. Any amount of inconvenience is too much for a lot of humans, unfortunately.
Why does dumping water out of boots have instructions? Isn’t it like dumping water out of any other container?
It’s just a common way to call someone an idiot where I’m from 😅
That last line is an absolutely brilliant insult. Love it.
I think it’s more like: the maturest kids and the most immature adults.
Side note: the National Park Service has an awesome team running their social media accounts. Their posts are always hilarious and informative.
Funny, I came here to make the exact same analogy. I totally agree - a mature kid and an immature adult have a lot of overlap.
Nice try little Timmy, but I won’t be telling you how to pass as an adult.
Because you are a kid and you don’t know but are pretending to be an adult. Nice try!
Everyone knows you hop on another kid’s shoulders and put on a trenchcoat, fedora, and sunglasses and gave the name Robert Businessman.
Very confidently wrong, poor reading comprehension, poor grammar, limited vocabulary, emoji gore, catch phrase/pop culture quotes/talking points repeated with no comprehension of what they’re saying, clearly not aware of how many things in life work, religious regurgitation while being surprised everyone doesn’t agree with them. Very easily impressed with basic factual statements, clearly thinking confidence is the main thing that makes someone correct. Thinks their mom telling they they are handsome is a valid point. Idk, that’s all I got.
Bonus: can also be applied to boomers.
Boomers are just decrepit toddlers at this point anyway
Could be a new gameshow: Boomer or Toddler
By these standards, most of my adult relatives are actually children.
It’s like I tell my kids, an adult is just a child who got old. It’s also why a lot of cultures have a concept of adulthood that has nothing to do with reaching sexual maturity alone.
So every boomer on facebook. Got it.
Those first two…and a couple others, also apply to a lot of adults I have had political conversations with the past several years…
Extreme/insane positions on everything. Not just one or two insane positions, not just political extremism; when I say everything I mean EVERYTHING. No nuance allowed. And it has to be fully sincere, otherwise you are dealing with a Jreg.
There are milder versions of this, but I have rarely met a child that didn’t have a strongly held insane belief formed from their limited experiences. My favorite was a kid who told me that eating pasta supports fascism because it comes from Italy, so loving Italian products means you support Mussolini. Pizza is fine, though, because that’s American.
I’ll bite. What’s a Jreg?
jreg is a youtube who (ironically?) claims to be anti-centrist, meaning taking an extreme stance on everything, regardless of which extreme.
jreg is a youtube
Found the adult
A youtuber who was relatively popular with enlightened centerists around 2019. Links so you can look on and cringe:
- A video where he regurgitates right-wing talking points directed at his cat in the name of “satire”
- An actually funny video about top 10 lists
- The video that made his channel really take off
- “Should we dehumanize our political opponents?”
- Man-made satire beyond mortal comprehension.
He also would attend rallies and spout political gibberist
jreg is pretty based i think. His content is satire, for sure. A lot of his recent stuff has been delving into more philosophical shit though.
Dude literally doxxed himself and asked people to kill him (in lore)
I was a big fan of jreg pre-2020, but after giving up mainstream social media I currently believe that only cowards, frauds, and master satirists feel the need to use irony. It’s arrogant to think you are the third, and I dont think Jreg is either. I think he is a coward.
ah, i think you should catch up a little bit on jreg then. He’s had a similar story arc lmao.
He’s “unironically Jregular now”
He’s actually leftist I think, and was parodying centrists too
If I remember his coming out video, he’s a Democratic Socialist. Which, if the political compass made sense, would be just right of center. But I guess thinking people deserve rights is inherently left-wing to Americans lol
He’s Canadian
You mean We Have America At Home?
Uuuuuugh. I remember being so black and white, there wasn’t any middle ground on anything. It was exhausting.
I’m just glad I decided to go full moral relativism right away back then. It was a good way to speedrun maturity, although I did maintain some kooky beliefs into early adulthood such as
- “if you are not multilingual you can’t be a good person, and the more languages you speak the better of a person you are”
- “The Democratic party is a puppet of the Republican party, and in reality the U.S. is only pretending to be a two-party state”
- “The age of consent should be 25.”
- “Evil people can be good functioning members of society, so we shouldn’t discriminate against people who hold evil beliefs as long as they are nice to others.”
It was exhausting. Opposite reason from you, there was only middle ground, no black and white allowed. But it came from the same mental place. Pride, arrogance, nieveté.
Glad we grew out of it.
The Democratic party is a puppet of the Republican party, and in reality the U.S. is only pretending to be a two-party state”
Ah, I see what you mean, anyone who disagrees with you is a child. America is a one party state, just in typical american extravagance they have two of them.
Ha ha that’s hilarious 😂 such a cherry pick too
yeah pretty much this. Dealing with one right now, people are funny.
This. This is how I pick out if I’m arguing with an adult or not
I don’t think there is a “dead giveaway”. Plenty of kids can pass as adults online and plenty of adults seem like kids online. And sometimes with stuff like word usage/grammar/etc you can’t tell if it’s a child or someone who doesn’t speak English very well or maybe an English-speaking adult who happens to type like that. There’s a lot of different people in the world.
Yeah seriously, every time someone makes a generalization online “that subreddit is all 12 year olds anyway”, “r/teenagers is mainly grown me”, it really bothers me because no, you’re just overconfident in estimating people’s ages from text
frfr m8
I can’t get over ironically using stupid lingo, without being good at presenting it as ironic use…so I often seem like a child. I am certainly bad at forming sentences that are not stream of thought (with weird punctuation like parentheses containing clarification…like this…and overused ellipsis…)
It’s interesting to meet someone else who also struggles with an overuse of parentheses and ellipses (I didn’t know what they were called, thanks for that!).
This is a complete shot in the dark, but do you also happen to be on the spectrum? (I have nothing to base this on expect my theory that overclarification could be more common among neurodivergent people)
Edit: ellipsis -> ellipses
I don’t present as on the spectrum, but I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was a kid. I haven’t suffered from it much as an adult. I have heard that the parenthetical over clarification and typing as your thoughts would flow naturally is a sign of Autism in particular. I can control it when I focus, but if I am ranting it comes out in force.
Add to your knowledge- they are ellipses. A single … is an ellipsis. Many words that end in “is” are pluralized as “es”
This is pronounced like iss versus eeze.
I have found the gen xers are the WORST at texting and writing in general. At least the ones I know.
I would die without autocorrect. I grew up with “mom, how do I spell (word)” and getting “sound it out”, witch werks grate in Inglish…
I grew up getting “Look it up!” and I still can’t spell for shit.
I HATED that one…look it up in the Dictionary…sure ok, let me look up a word I can’t spell …ffs!
Ever watch a kid who grew up after smartphones try to type?
“Redditors of Reddit, how do you sexily sex the sex out of sexy sex???”
Serious response: you can’t really make a very general rule. There are a lot of people who write quite maturely since their teens, and a lot of people who are morons since their teens and have endless dedication and determination to remain in that state for as long as they breathe.
It really sounds like you’re 14.
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When they’re adamant that voting third party in the United States will be useful in some capacity, I assume they’re 13
The youngsters are downvoting you, but what you’re saying is sad but true. It’s the reason Bernie never ran as an independent, he knew it would hand the victory to republicans on a silver platter.
I don’t assume they are 13, but they at least aren’t old enough to remember what happened in 2016.
Or any other election year, for that matter. I don’t think a third party candidate has gotten a significant voter block in 100 years.
Ross Perot got 18.9% of the popular vote in 1992. While he didn’t get any electoral votes he likely prevented a second HW Bush term.
the analysis shows perot damaged Clinton’s margin of victory.
Source on this? I was young but I remember that election. Perot seemed to be like some kind of ultracapitalist “run the country like a business” moron that people respected because he was rich. My grandpa loved him and I rarely heard him talk politics. He was also only educated to the sixth grade for what that’s worth.
Seems like the kind of guy to take a bite out of the conservative vote.
I’m gonna fix my ignorance and go look him up right now though.
Edit-- I’m back, learned a lot. I love that he supported electronic direct democracy way back in 1992. He was in favor of gun control and money for AIDS research. Openly supported gay rights in 1996 but notably not until his second campaign when he really had no chance.
He didn’t believe trickle down economics worked. Was a billionaire who spoke against greed which is really strange. But me calling him an ultracapitalist is probably misplaced. Also not a moron. He was into taxing the wealthy, starting to like this guy, but balancing the budget by cutting social programs, nevermind do not like.
He opposed outsourcing factory jobs and favored environmental protection. He wanted to decrease the budgets of both the military and NASA. Wanted to cancel the space station.
Quite the complicated guy. I love some of his policies and hate others. Seems like a weird mix when viewed through a modern lens. I think I’d have considered voting for him if I was ten years older in '92. Probably would have voted for Clinton though who notably achieved one of Perot’s primary goals, which was to balance the budget.
So I ended up researching Clinton’s campaign and it was straight up racist against black people. He also pledged to end welfare “as we know it”. I think I actually would have voted for Perot! Maybe there’s something to what you’re saying about reducing Clinton’s margin of victory.
Fair – outliers might exist, on rare occasion
Conversely: when they say this is the most important election of “our lifetimes”, and the world will end if we lose.
(Doesn’t mean they’re wrong)
I know a full grown adult that does that in every election. Local elections, sure, I can understand, but he does that with all of them, Basically a card carrying communist that’s a useful idiot for right wing politicians.
You would need some real insurance that others were commuted to vote 3rd party no matter what. Otherwise the real benifit is just getting to that 5% mark where third parties get some bennies like federal funding and automatic ballot access in some places. Which is minor vs say stopping a campaign of vengeance from a candidate who has acted feloniously already and has abused his position to black bag political opponents before.
Almost anyone with an irrational political stance betrays their youth.
Political ideology has always captivated the passions of youth, but isn’t successfully implemented or even internalized except by people with age and experience and emotional regulation.
I agree with you. Do you think people become more conservative with age or is it society becoming more progressive and leaving them behind? Obviously ignoring the current regressive times of the last eight+ years there.
To contribute an answer to the original question I offer this post as evidence of age- thinking about how much has changed during my life may have come through above.
Do you think people become more conservative with age or is it society becoming more progressive and leaving them behind?
I am getting up there in years and seeing this play out over and over.
I think every generation wants to be more progressive than the last, but we tend to carry baggage of fear and insecurity through the generations. Or more specifically, older people tend to gain the political and monetary capital needed to affect policy and shape our societal outlook and attitude. They will always be more conservative than the younger generation who will want more freedoms and personal rights, inherently, and as the ruling class will clash with newer sensibilities, over and over.
What we’re asking here, is the conservatism reflected in our elders and leadership now broadly more harmful or helpful? Are we out of the touch or is it the kids who are wrong?
I think it’s a mix but mostly it’s not our real problem. Our real problem is that no matter what our age, we have greatly misunderstood how our own existence works. Most people have been taught that they have brains designed to exercise logic and reason and that brains are the best thing ever if you use them and make them smart.
No, our brains are not logical tools. We are not a rational species. There was no “age of enlightenment.” It’s all a hoax. Our brains are tools designed to write a story to explain how you feel. And that’s it. It doesn’t even have to make sense. When we all learn how our brains actually work we will collectively make better decisions, have more compassion for each other, and likely sink into even deeper despair as we all start to realize we have no free will.
Why not vote 3rd party in states that only go one direction? Take NY for instance. What the fuck harm comes from voting 3rd party assholes for president? One time the state elected a republican candidate and it was (still is I think) the largest landslide in history. I’m 36 and have always hated the 2 party system. It’s been easier and easier as I got older too with increasing political polarity.
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Not understanding the difference between pre and post 9/11 politics
Hate to break it to you but people born in 2006 are turning 18 this year (and are technically considered “adults”).
Having just turned 43, I can tell you that I don’t think I became an adult until my early/mid 30s.
This is a truth that everyone under 30 denies until the day they turn 30. It’s like a magic spell is suddenly broken, and you realize you’re alone in an aging meat husk that now knows the glory of back pain.
I know a young person will read this and think this won’t happen to them. To that person: I am you from the future. Remember us as we were.
I think it’s kinda like the old dating age formula; you can date people (your age) / 2 + 7 years old, and you feel like that’s the age of an adult.
When I was 15 I felt like ann adult, but people younger than me were teens. When I was 25 I felt like an adult but people under the age of like 20 were just kids. Now I feel like people in their early/mid-20s are just about adults. I’m sure when I’m 50 I’ll think back to myself now and consider myself barely an adult.
I’m 27 and I think I’m there already
I thought that too. I regret to report: it gets worse.
I’m 40 and it seems like I can continually look back at myself from five years ago and think damn I was an idiot back then. I wonder how I will feel in five years…
Wow, you’re me!
That assumes you live in one of a small number of countries for which politics significantly shifted after one of those countries was attacked.
And also that you’re at least old enough to have had a reasonable mature understanding of the political landscape before 2001, so as to appreciate how things changed. Let’s assume that’d make you at least 20.
…So, we have to be at least 43 years old, and American, or you’ll assume we’re children?
To actually understand you’d have to have been following politics pre 9/11, which would make you probably 16 at the time. That means 39 right now. That’s a lot of adults you’re ruling out.
If you want to say understand society pre and post 9/11, then you’re probably talking 12 at the time, so 35 right now. Still a lot of adults you’re ruling out.
So, uh, what is the difference?
I was alive for 9/11 and I don’t know the difference.
I don’t care for politics.
I don’t care for politics.
Your sphere of control should match your sphere of concern; and neither of those things are what you think they are.
You think politics are in my control in any way, shape, or form? They’ve gerrymandered my vote to irrelevance.
I still vote, I look at the platforms and vote for whomever I feel serves my interests the most, not that the party’s platform means jack or shit. They’re all just pandering to whatever they know you want to hear, and once they get into power, they do whatever the hell they want.
My district leans a particular way, and whether I vote with them, or against them, the same party is elected to govern. I’d say my vote is pretty useless in that context.
I was too young to vote, pre-9/11, and had even less interest in politics than I do now. I’ve vaguely followed along since I got registered to vote when I got old enough to do so, but it’s not like learning about what happened before I was registered to vote will help me in any way. I make the best choice based on the information that is available, and in the end, it doesn’t even matter.
Could anyone persuade you to vote on what’s better for most people instead of what’s better for yourself? Maybe it’s the same policies maybe not.
I usually want whatever is best for the majority. I’m done college, and I paid my student loans, I’ll vote for student loan forgiveness and a restructuring of that system so others don’t have to go through what I did.
I’m pretty healthy and rarely need hospitals but universal healthcare is something that everyone should have.
I would also vote for UBI, though I would get no benefit from it, as I’ve been employed pretty much non-stop since I left college.
I would also vote to raise the minimum wage, though my salary is significantly amount the minimums.
My principles are in line with what most people would consider to be the greater good for all people. I believe in true equality, and I don’t feel like that’s what we have, some people just aren’t given the same basic rights, especially in America with roe v. Wade being overturned. Bodily autonomy and the right to love, and marry whomever you want. I don’t believe in lowering the bar to give the illusion of things being “fair”, eg, allowing people who are otherwise mentally or physically incapable of doing a job, to do the job just because they’re a particular race, gender, or something else (making it more about who they are than whether they’re the best fit for a job).
I don’t think I need any convincing to vote for what’s good for someone else.
Agreed, we are like minded in many ways. Thanks for the kind and long response. I believe your earlier comments were being taken by myself and others as fuck everyone I’ll get/I’ve got mine. Sorry I don’t mince words at the moment.
No apology needed. No offense taken.
I know that text replies, especially terse ones can be interpreted in many ways. Often I tend to be rather verbose to get my point across accurately. Some then complain about the verbosity of my replies.
It’s a struggle to find the right amount of terse while being verbose enough to not be misunderstood.
Not at least understanding the difference seems irresponsible.
Who needs an informed electorate anyway?
Why? How does knowing how politics worked before I could vote, help me as a voter today?
I understand enough about politics to cast my vote and beyond the act of voting, I generally don’t follow politics. I vote based on party platforms (what they intend to do) and the likelihood of those things happening. Eg, if a party was to say that they’ll make everyone rich, I would consider that statement to be delusional, unrealistic and not something that could be fulfilled even if that party was voted in. This is an extreme example, but I think you get my meaning.
Beyond doing my due diligence in figuring out who I want to vote for, and then voting for that party… What else do I realistically need?
My district always elects the same party anyways, whether I vote for them or not. I’ve landed in a gerrymandered location and that party basically always wins, but I still vote regardless.
IMO, I shouldn’t need to take a political history course to be considered to be a responsible voter.
I’m actually gonna give the benefit of the doubt and assume this is actually a grown idiot lol
This ‘compress’ everything is such a waste of CPU and energy. Plus “oops, all your files are gone, tee hee”. GZ everywhere is fucking stupid. More complexity for zero benefit.
- CTO at my previous company
To be fair: there are many things where compression is a waste of CPU time, like fonts and about 90% of non-text media as they’re already compressed
What, you don’t love downloading a zip file that contains an msi (which is perfectly capable of internally compressing much of its internal data)?
I only tar my game backups, because compression time for 0.5% is wasted time.
Hackers mad
Hackers mad
Hackers mad
Found the thread and wow, this person goes on to desperately defend this dumb stance…
I still stand by full disk encryption accomplishing almost nothing for the average user but separating them from their own files
If you don’t have data on your PC that someone might be willing to kill you for, you probably don’t need it, and Microsoft enabling it by default for Win11 installs is crazy
I mean, I think it’s a good idea to enable it on a laptop.
I mean if someone steals your laptop they can access all your files without it, and even though 90% of files may be useless there’s always chances to find passwords (often reused, even if encrypted can be decrypted if they aren’t strong), bank details, documents, etc oh and cookies for your browser sessions etc etc. If I were a laptop thief (which I’m not) I’d probably look for those too before formatting everything, that could be extra money.
That’s why I encrypt my laptop’s drive. That way even if it’s stolen the only thing I have to really worry about is not having a laptop anymore.
Yeah but I don’t think the average smash and grab thief is going to be smart enough to recognize the potential value of the data on the laptop, they’re just going to pawn the thing off as quickly as possible
Anyone smart enough to want the data probably doesn’t need to smash a window, they’ll just access the data remotely when the computer is on and the drive is unencrypted
So even then, it only protects you from the very narrow overlap of thieves who are dumb enough to need to break into cars for a living, but smart enough to harvest data off of stolen laptops
Sounds like the whole hard drive recovery industry is about to go poof.
And even then i prefer to encrypt only the folder, less hassle that way.
it depends on the application, if you’re just serving a static site, or talking on a public chatforum, yeah encryption is pointless.
If you’re talking an SSH tunnel? Yeah no this is stupid.
Encryption everywhere isn’t about the individual content. By making it ubiquitous, it’s harder for bad actors to separate the encrypted data they want from the one’s they don’t. If only special content is encrypted, then just the fact that it’s encrypted is a flag for them. It also makes it much harder to ban. It’s pretty much impossible to ban the algorithms in TLS at this point. Too much depends on it.
it’s a good thing the entirety of https traffic has encrypted headers than…
Regardless, if it’s properly encrypted it doesn’t matter if they have it, and are able to confirm who it’s from, unless we’re talking about a governmental agency or an org with access to one of those mythical quantum computers. In which case it’s probably a significant portion of future security.
TLS already has algorithms hardened against QC. The effects of QC against encryption are greatly exaggerated, anyway. The number of qubits that would be needed to break encryption may be too large to ever be feasible.
Get IPv6 going and stuff like SNI becomes unnecessary.
I don’t know about you all, but I have been posting as an adult human male for a numbers of years now despite being a 4 year old Alaskan Malamute. No one seems to notice or care.
Moon moon?
Awooo to you, fine canine.
Men come in all shapes and sizes.
Kids care too deeply about the most shallow things
Shut up you care about the most shallow things!!!
no i dont!!!1!!! i only care about the best things. you are stupid!!
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Larping as a tankie is definitely a thing of immature, terminally online kids, but I wouldn’t throw Lenin in the bunch. While Stalin is mostly condemned as a reactionary psychopath by pretty much everybody except a few leftist basement-dwellers, Lenin is still read and taught throughout the world. Nothing edgy in reading Lenin.
Edgy kids on the internet worship other psychopaths like Pol Pot or Hoxha.
Stalin maybe. Lenin? He was a hero to the working class. I’d really like to see your sources on how Lenin was one of “history’s worst communist leaders”.
Some instances on Lemmy are going through a Red Scare, I doubt they can explain.
I suppose there’s not a lot of communist leaders to choose from in general, but Kronstadt happened on Lenin’s watch and it would be a bit disingenuous to pretend this was controversy free amongst the left and working classes.
It was always a thing, had a tankie friend in high-school. Though you’re right, most people grow out of it. But I don’t think this guy did last I saw him
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Late teens, maybe early 20s.
How close am I?
Some people take longer to mature.
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😂
Great reply. Respect.
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Ah yes, if a Communist is young, they are naiive, and if a Communist is older, they are cyncial and regressive.
The double-think is strong with you.
Where’s that Parenti quote?
“During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.”
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I can’t say there is one. Every time i think to myself something like “goddamn, this person is immature” I remind myself that there’s a high number of immature adults in the world including myself, so…?
One was fucking president of USA
And millions elected him
