• @Thann@lemmy.ml
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    a country that consistently works in the interest of its people is a democracy

    no, thats socialism not democracy lol.

    Heres the wiki definiton for democracy:

    Democracy is a form of government in which the people have the authority to deliberate and decide legislation.

    Heres the wiki definition for fascism:

    Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the good of the nation, and strong regimentation of society and the economy that rose to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

    The whole “forcible suppression of opposition” is kind of an important element which is clearly present in china, where there is no deliberation allowed.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      02 years ago

      no, thats socialism not democracy lol.

      Democracy is a government that works in the interest of the majority and is being held accountable by the majority. The government in China demonstrably functions in this way, and has been for a long time.

      The whole “forcible suppression of opposition” is kind of an important element which is clearly present in china, where there is no deliberation allowed.

      That’s just complete and utter nonsense that you believe based on the propaganda diet you consume. Again, this is demonstrably an idiotic thing to say. If no deliberation was allowed in China then its political system would be stagnant and inflexible the way western systems are.

      Instead of making a clown of yourself here, why not spend some time to actually educate yourself on China?

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        02 years ago

        The government in China demonstrably functions in this way

        no, when there are protests in china they roll out the tanks and kill people until the protests stop. deliberation in the democratic sense doesnt involve people dying.

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          2 years ago

          Wait till you find out what western governments do to people when they protest. Being ignorant about a subject is not a flaw, nobody can know everything. However, holding strong opinions on a subject you’re utterly ignorant on makes one a fool.

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            02 years ago

            Just because western governments mistreat protesters doesn’t mean executing dissenters is part of democracy.

            Today the people of Taiwan are meeting with representatives from the US government. Chinas response is threatening nuclear war. Perhaps you can explain how deliberation is a part of this process?

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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              12 years ago

              Every government puts limits on dissent. Today, US is violating China’s territorial integrity by sending a top official to Taiwan. US has also spent billions on nurturing a separatist movement in Taiwan. If you think that Taiwan being dominated by US is what democracy looks like what else is there to tell you.

              • @Thann@lemmy.ml
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                02 years ago

                Every government puts limits on dissent.

                And China sets that bar at winnie the pooh lol

                China is saying the people of taiwan are not allowed to deliberate foreign policy at all…

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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                  02 years ago

                  The most frustrating part of talking to imbeciles such as yourself is that you simply regurgitate nonsense. China has given Taiwan autonomy, and allowed it to have its own government and military. In 2014, China offered Taiwan to have representatives in the mainland government without China having representatives in Taiwanese government.

                  At that point US ran a color revolution in Taiwan. Weird that US didn’t want people of Taiwan to deliberate their foreign policy.

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                    12 years ago

                    China has given Taiwan autonomy, and allowed it to have its own government and military.

                    If they’re givin autonomy, why does china insist on controlling who they talk to? That doesn’t sound like autonomy to me!