• @Thann@lemmy.ml
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    02 years ago

    The government in China demonstrably functions in this way

    no, when there are protests in china they roll out the tanks and kill people until the protests stop. deliberation in the democratic sense doesnt involve people dying.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      2 years ago

      Wait till you find out what western governments do to people when they protest. Being ignorant about a subject is not a flaw, nobody can know everything. However, holding strong opinions on a subject you’re utterly ignorant on makes one a fool.

      • @Thann@lemmy.ml
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        02 years ago

        Just because western governments mistreat protesters doesn’t mean executing dissenters is part of democracy.

        Today the people of Taiwan are meeting with representatives from the US government. Chinas response is threatening nuclear war. Perhaps you can explain how deliberation is a part of this process?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          12 years ago

          Every government puts limits on dissent. Today, US is violating China’s territorial integrity by sending a top official to Taiwan. US has also spent billions on nurturing a separatist movement in Taiwan. If you think that Taiwan being dominated by US is what democracy looks like what else is there to tell you.

          • @Thann@lemmy.ml
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            02 years ago

            Every government puts limits on dissent.

            And China sets that bar at winnie the pooh lol

            China is saying the people of taiwan are not allowed to deliberate foreign policy at all…

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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              02 years ago

              The most frustrating part of talking to imbeciles such as yourself is that you simply regurgitate nonsense. China has given Taiwan autonomy, and allowed it to have its own government and military. In 2014, China offered Taiwan to have representatives in the mainland government without China having representatives in Taiwanese government.

              At that point US ran a color revolution in Taiwan. Weird that US didn’t want people of Taiwan to deliberate their foreign policy.

              • @Thann@lemmy.ml
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                12 years ago

                China has given Taiwan autonomy, and allowed it to have its own government and military.

                If they’re givin autonomy, why does china insist on controlling who they talk to? That doesn’t sound like autonomy to me!

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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                  02 years ago

                  Because China cares about its sovereignty. A better question is why US is spending billions of dollars to meddle in politics half way across the world?

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                    Because China cares about its sovereignty.

                    Yup, so much so that it doesn’t allow deliberation, which makes it a fascist dictatorship and not a democracy. The US’s undeniable love for wasting money is sort of irrelevant to the question of democracy in china. Perhaps you can provide an example of deliberation in china?