• @toastal@lemmy.ml
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    361 year ago

    What’s odd to me is the cultural zeitgeist has moved to folks being aware that Microsoft (& Google & Apple) is collecting data on them to being the butt of jokes, yet those folks aren’t adopting an alternatives. With over a decade on Linux I’m now pretty out of touch with the opposite feeling. I guess the closest analog I have is not being able to realistically leave Android behind, but that is more hardware than software (banking app already don’t let you root or otherwise flash your device so I have given up hope in trying with them).

    • shrugs
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      211 year ago

      A few days ago I tried to install Windows 11 on the PC of a friend. It didn’t work because of missing SATA drivers. Anyway, I was shocked how many points there are where Microsoft or Apple (we used his mac to create the USB drive) tries to sell something (buy pro version of fan controll now) or wants your permissions to gather all your data.

      I convinced him to let me install debian. When it came to creating the default user he was hesitant to use his full name, because telemetry :D

      • @toastal@lemmy.ml
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        41 year ago

        I mean I don’t really see the point of using your real name on your system unless you often forget who you are. I would praise my friend tho for having the correct skeptical reaction even if it should be relatively harmless.

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          21 year ago

          I also think it’s a healthy attitude but at the same time it’s sad that people can’t trust their own devices any longer.

          Using your real name can have benefits, like metadata in office documents or things like that. If you are sure your devices are yours and secure, there shouldn’t be a reason not to use your own name. Unfortunately this isn’t the case anymore if you are using anything else but Linux

          • @toastal@lemmy.ml
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            11 year ago

            Many jurisdictions recognize pen names & other aliases which a username is & could also be put in the document. Many might prefer not inserting their real name into things by default & if that privacy is desired as default, all the more reason to skip the real name.

    • @Gluten6970@lemm.ee
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      51 year ago

      (banking app already don’t let you root or otherwise flash your device so I have given up hope in trying with them)

      Idk why this myth keeps getting peddled. You can use any banking app on any custom ROM, rooted or unrooted (though I see no point in rooting these days). And even if an banking app blocked you from using their app…the mobile website exists if you really need mobile access to your bank.

      • @can@sh.itjust.works
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        41 year ago

        I haven’t rooted in a long time. What would make the hassle of going to my bank’s website worthwhile these days?

      • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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        41 year ago

        That’s not true. Specially with older banks, they don’t let you run their shitty apps on rooted phones. And some younger banks don’t even let you do certain tasks on the website, they are mobile first.

        • @Sprawlie@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          No rooted phones for our App. No travel to specific locals and countries either. we hvae black lists of Regions of the world where you simply cannot login to your accounts due to overwhelming security concerns and lack of extrajudicial remediation should there be fraud.

      • @toastal@lemmy.ml
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        31 year ago

        This isn’t a “myth” they detect both root & custom ROMs so even if you wanted to use an unrooted custom ROM you can’t. Rooting your phone just to skirt around them should be the opposite of what they want as there is some security implications to rooting your phone. And the current solutions are all temporary workarounds til the banking apps find a new way to partner with Google to prevent modifications of any kind.

        In my country, at least one bank has shutdown & discontinued their website which is often just the first domino before others start doing it too. My bank is slow to adopt tech, but their site was created to detect IE and Netscape Navigator. I would assume they would kill that website before upgrading it to actually work on the modern web where a fixed CRT isn’t the only screen size.

      • @PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world
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        11 year ago

        European banks require strong security. Even a web-based login requires 2FA using the bank’s mobile app - so if that app won’t run, well, no banking for you today!

    • @reksas@sopuli.xyz
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      Majority of people just dont care about being spied upon unless it directly affects them somehow, at which point its too late for that person. But others having data on you wont likely directly affect you at the moment so not enough people get burned by it for general attitude to change. Smart people understand that all this can very easily change and prepare by not allowing all of their information be available for questionable people to use. Others make fun of them for this and call them crazy until one day they suddenly aren’t so crazy any more.

      • @toastal@lemmy.ml
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        21 year ago

        They actually do care tho about the tracking—if they weren’t privacy wouldn’t be included in marketing like it is now. They are just more willing to accept it as a fact of life rather than dealing with it (or don’t know that they can do something or how to start).

        We should make this easier for folks ’cause every email I send from a non-data-collection host usually ends up on a Google or Microsoft server, etc. Every silly Discord chatroom you join, or Facebook page you like has the same ramifications.

      • Cosmic Cleric
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        11 year ago

        Majority of people just dont care about being spied upon unless it directly affects them somehow,

        Remind them that strangers know their porn fetishes, and see if that changes their minds.

    • @fne8w2ah@lemmy.world
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      11 year ago

      Then there’s always Linux Mint for those looking to transition away from M$ or even all the other innumerable flavours of Linux.