I want to donate to a linux phone. I believe in linux and I want a linux phone. Maybe we can use one in very few years as a normal daily driver. It’s getting closer and closer every month.

I want to donate that we get there sooner. But which project? I’m following postmarket but I’m not sure if they are the most promising. What’s your stance on this? To which project would you give your money to accellerate it?

Edit: I don’t want to buy a phone. I want to support the phone os devs. Sorry for the bad wording.

  • @Pantherina@feddit.de
    38•1 year ago

    Tbh GrapheneOS.

    Android is Linux.

    And unlike desktop Linux it was able to spread secure and private standards

    • every app is sandboxed, not some opt-in like Flatpak
    • apps start with no permissions (or at least very little), everything is opt-in
    • it is like 99% unbreaking, immutable, it just always works while my desktop Linux broke all the time
    • there is a webview, which can be hardened. Not Electron, which is insecure and bloated
    • energy saving etc work like a charm. 1% battery loss over an entire night!
    • hardware security with trusted element is decades ahead of desktop Linux (Ubuntu is just now getting TPM encryption support)
    • it is a unified platform, with tons of apps, many of them essential (as the platform is so secure), like 2FA, Banking, public services etc. you can have a full FOSS phone though

    I am sure excited for other operating systems but they are just toys. GrapheneOS does amazing work that is a 100% alternative today, for real phones with normal prices, good performance and outstanding security.

    • FreeBooteR69
      29•1 year ago

      When i think of Android i don’t think of it as part of the gnu/linux ecosystem, but a heavily modified linux kernel turned against the user.

      • @Pantherina@feddit.de
        -3•1 year ago

        How is it turned against the user? Androids Linux is highly restricted in that it doesnt support a lot of things, but that makes it extremely stable, while this doesnt mean that apps are also “stable” like in Debian

        • @scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
          1•1 year ago

          They don’t expect users to do development on android.

          (Phones should be used like telephones lol.) I’m going to buy a landline phone

          • @Pantherina@feddit.de
            1•1 year ago

            No a phone is an end device. But I dont think GPL or whatever says you need to be able to modify the code on that device.

            Makes no sense.

            Btw as I only said this in another comment, afaik android runs a tailored LTS linux kernel. It is not as bloated as regular linux as it contains device drivers and also doesnt need all the random drivers for whatever hardware to run on a specific phone.

            So you can say android restricts freedom in exchange for security, but “linux kernel turned against the user” makes no sense. Their kernel is just fine.

    • Mnglw
      12•1 year ago

      how are you only getting 1% battery drain overnight? my pixel 7 w grapheneos drains 10% overnight and battery saver makes it worse somehow

      I would like to know your secrets

          • @scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
            0•1 year ago

            These people know zilch about security

            Agreed, now your mission is OpenBSD

            Let’s watch if your shit got cared, you can only attacks small projects with peoples who don’t want to write portable code (amd64 and aarch64 only) for “security”

              • @scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
                0•1 year ago

                I do not do that. Pretty sure most said in your thread that you write weird stuff, and I also tried talking to you to no avail.

                You are doing that. You dispose contributions like hardened_malloc. Why don’t you spread more misinformation about it? Maybe when hardened_malloc have a bug you will.

                You can only laugh on some security bugs of Pixel. You thought “debloat” is enough. This is insufficient. (And using adb to debloat can be considered overkill. Your software recommendation is insane and overkill. Being both insufficient and overkill are the current infamous attitude of current privacy communities, including privacy guides, privsec.dev, grapheneos community and other “degoogled” android communities)

                Your OpenBSD fandom sounds like TempleOS meme. Weird. Pass.

                ???

      • @scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
        0•1 year ago

        harassing and witch hunting any critics

        You can criticize GrapheneOS just because Micay will care about your words. But you can’t do with something like OpenBSD because the developers are much knowledgeable and they never cared your words. They maintain an operating system for themselves and will not develop features to please users.

        You can only criticize some small project with a developer that isn’t good in communication. You are truly a petty person.

        having a little social media army with sockpuppets to do this

        No loser, the community is the army. (their quality isn’t better than any Calyx or Lineage). The developers don’t even have enough time to please user with a beautiful user interface then why they would screaming on social medias like you are doing.

        But they maintained hardened_malloc and you never take a word for it.

    • Lettuce eat lettuce
      5•1 year ago

      On GrapheneOS right now typing this, love it! I switched over about 2 years ago to Graphene and never looked back. Rarely have any issues, solid battery life, all my apps work, life is good and private.