I don’t mean it that literally. I mean just observing swaths of people putting straws into drinks, putting ointments on scrapes, etc might make them extrapolate and try similar actions using what’s available to them.

It’s not much of a reach for a primate seeing a human manipulate and dig with a shovel, and use that as inspiration to manipulate a bamboo shoot to scratch their own back.

We homosapiens spent 180,000 ish years wandering around in the dirt like idiots before it occurred to some of us that we could grow food in one place, thus beginning the path to civilization. Even we need examples to extrapolate from.

The difference might be in primates in captivity learning from humans using tools around them all day every day. Primate see primate do trial and error.

One seen doing it spontaneously in nature might be more significant.

I imagine they would make excellent fertilizer.

Plays Circle of Life from Lion King

If we can fight the owners to keep our shitty back breaking jobs and win, we should have fought the owners to rebuild our economy for automation profits to largely benefit the people from the bottom up.

If we the peasant masses even can win against the tiny owner class oligarchs, lets fight for the right thing. And if we can’t win, well then it’s all masturbation anyway and they’ll do what they want.

It’s irrational to fight for “we demand to continue to break our backs making your shit instead of robots so we can continue to subsist on menial laborer wages with broken backs!” in any event. That’s some coal miner excuse for logic.

Automation isn’t the enemy.

As ever, the owner class that hoards and wages economic war on you though automation for their exclusive benefit at their society’s expense are your enemy, whether you would fight them or not.

Arguing that we should “save” back breaking, repetitive unnatural movement, manual labor jobs that break human bodies by the time they’re 40 is the WRONG hill to die on. Fight for the citizenry to reap the benefits of automation through taxation, not to keep shitty jobs robots can do faster and better. Fight to change the economy so that everyone doesn’t need meaningless jobs machines can do better so we can have actual time to live our lives.

Taxing the fuck out of automation would let everyone win, because a heavily taxed robot is still far cheaper for the company than a human or possibly several humans for that one robot would be, so automation is here either way. We can riot to change our economy to benefit from this technology as we should, or we can be steamrolled yet again by the dictates of the affluent who will demand and get all the benefits and none of the responsibility if not confronted and countered on revolutionary terms.

Please pick the former. There’s no dignity or meaning to be had shuffling boxes around in an Amazon warehouse. Begging the owners to let us try to continue to compete with literal purpose built repetitive labor machines is not the way.

Thats why I choose to be a pessimist. It eliminates disappointment.

Expect the worst from humans and you’ll usually end up being factually correct, you’ll never be disappointed, and occasionally, if the moon and the stars align, you just might be pleasantly surprised about something at some point in your life, just don’t count on it.

Optimism looks fucking exhausting when dealing with our gem of a species. Being let down most of the time and still putting on a smile for the next disappointment you won’t expect 5 minutes later. Looks like masochism minus the sexual pleasure. Good luck with that optimists!

Human self-importance.

We think we’re magic, despite the fact we aren’t built for high g dogfights at all.

Kind of the same reason us being space colonizers is a pipe dream at this stage in our civilization. We can get a dozen highly trained peak human specimens to grow potatoes on Mars as a symbol, and I’m all for that, but not regular people. One mistake everybody dead, one cabin fever victim in the right position everybody dead. We literally can’t even care for the almost infinitely forgiving habitat we evolved out of that’s perfectly suited to our biology, and all that would require is stop actively, recklessly fucking it up.

The base game is prettier and more stable in my few playthrough hours with the update.

I miss mods, but this was a significant improvement to the base game imho, especially base visuals, and mods will come.

Honestly the last time I launched the game in an unmodded, un-community patched state, a couple years ago to be fair, it crashed every half hour or so for me from runtime errors, so this feels like a more stable bedrock on which to build.

Just one Bethesda fan’s perspective.

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I use the “I just want to tell you (both/all) good luck, we’re all counting on you” line irl sometimes.

My humble dream is that one day, before I’m dead, someone will get it.

I promise you the Pentagon has already spent billions working to weaponize both AI and AI derived robotics.

Their philosophy is that if a new technology even has potential military applications, they demand getting it first, best, and in larger quantities than any other nation on Earth would even consider. Our military industrial complex is the largest surpassing the Joneses continuous effort humanity exerts.

That’s how we get to spending more on our military than the next 9 nations combined. That’s why we have 11 nuclear aircraft carriers, France has 1, and that’s all there is on Earth.

I’m not saying it’s right, but it’s the reality. Whatever we consumers have access to is behind what our military is testing and throwing basically infinite money at.

We’re less than 5 years out from networked, general purpose humanoid robots, that we’re using current AI technology to train to interact with the physics of the real world in virtual sandboxes, being everywhere.

Within 10 years there will be humanoid robots no human Olympian can compete with by any metric. We are static on timescales we can perceive, they are iterative. It won’t be close.

You’d think our response to Covid would have shattered the mass delusion of human hyper-comptetence.

“Why is my food not a live small mammal for me to take instinctual pleasure in dismembering YET AGAIN?!”

We’re almost finished. This is just the transitional period where AI is roughly as inept as an average human. They have nowhere to go but up, and most humans are less competent than they believe they are.

waves at Dunning–Kruger effect

The first transistor was made in 1947, now AI can carry a conversation with a larger vocabulary than most humans. We spent 180,000 years wandering around in the dirt before it occurred to us we could grow stuff in one place.

I’m sure their private shareholders are absolutely thrilled with slave labor making them a few extra cents per share.

It’s insane what we allow people to do to people in the name of “just business” profiteering.

CEOs of the offenders at the time, and anyone who signed off on this, should go to prison. Instead, at most (and likely nothing at all), their companies will receive a fine far less than what they saved using slave labor, which means they’ll keep doing similar things.

Welp…

The owners will do what they’ve been doing with our consent, or we’d have stopped them by now. They’re going to keep profiting until the bill comes due, and then they’ll cheat like always, this time by running away instead of with floors of tax attorneys and lobbyists capturing their own regulatory bodies, ensuring you’ll bear the brunt of the consequences of their fine work.

https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-inside-luxury-bunkers-ultra-rich-prepare-for-doomsday-2022-9

The owner class doesn’t care about their nation state of origin, or even humanity’s future, only themselves and their ego scores. That’s literally the sociopathic motivation our civilization rewards through the global economy that punishes pro-social vocations, and is the very reason they won.

When we’re dying by the millions through starvation and constant deadly weather events, when far too late we stop making them more capital and start picking up pitchforks, they’ll be underground, protected by class traitor private security, sipping exotic whiskies and irrationally placing the blame on the peasants for the fact that their favorite private resort for the rich got flattened by a CAT 6.

It will take millions of years for the Earth to recover from what we’re doing in a matter of decades to make a few thousand sociopath families feel like modern Pharoahs.

The fact that making significant sacrifices in abandoning many of the decadent comforts of this period at our only habitat’s irreparable (on a human timescale) damage expense is met with ridicule shows how determined we are to wreck this place.

Imagine mass famines and frequent catastrophic weather events a couple generations from now. I’m guessing they’ll look at us being above living with our once kind, nurturing habitat with disdain and bewilderment when they’re steeped in the fruits of our lifestyles.

Im not saying going back to the dark ages, im not advocating rejecting knowledge, only the rushing around and consumerism. There’s no more reasonable room for growth, growth is killing us, and robbing us of meaning.

If we can’t live with this paradise, the idea of us spreading to hostile, unforgiving worlds within reach like Mars or Titan is a bad joke. Unlike the infinite mistakes we get to keep making here without instant death, one major mistake out there where we didn’t evolve, and poof everybody dead instantly thanks for playing space faring civilization. That isn’t a game humans can pull off. Maybe some small crew of exceptional people, but certainly not a colony of regular people.

This is what we got. So yeah, maybe spending our time whittling stuff we need and moving at the speed of horse would be better for humanity long term than racing to grow our GDP into extinction.

Whats the endgame of all this growth and “innovation” if it wasn’t killing us as it is? To have Google ad AI generated amalgums of our dead relatives transmitted directly into our brains to convince us to buy more crap?

It does, but if a catastrophic war, including one with nuclear weapons, brought us down to 2 billion from 9, those nukes wouldn’t even touch the current course of heavy industry of 9 billion that we recklessly became without a thought in the world about whether our only habitat could support it.

Because shooting wars end, even if through attrition. Industry just keeps metastizing if you let it, and pretty lies like “but we planted trees! That evens out all the shit we’re pumping in the air and water!” are just pretty lies.

If we cared about our species having a future, heavy industry would be scaled back to food/medicine, we could sow our own clothes, go back to horses, breed less, communaly build our own structures, and whittle our own shelf crap, and we could perhaps still provide a future to subsequent generations. We do not.