Has anyone done this? Its a very proprietary program lol, so I can imagine that doesnt work.

But its powerful and my Uni supports it. I am fine with just following classes on Uni PCs and then learning QGis myself, but yeah…

Are there any tricks for running “modern”, maybe DRM infested Software?

Also, how I did it was always just running executables in existing Bottles, as I dont get having a new small OS for each app. But that doesnt seem to work that well in Bottles.

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      Yeah thats an entirely different thing. My GPU is weird and virt-manager doesnt work, while OpenGL enabled VMs are nice and smooth but had other problems with the correct viewer and all…

      Asked ChatGPT for every damn parameter or viewer, user virt-viewer, remote-viewer, VNC, some GTK viewer.

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      It all comes down to a question of how much time (days? months?) you want spend fixing things on Linux that simply work out of the box under Windows for a minimal fee. Buy a Windows license and spend the time you would’ve spent dealing with Linux issues doing your actual job and you’ll, most likely, get a better ROI. Windows licenses are cheap and you get things working out of the box. Software runs fine, all vendors support whatever you’re trying to do and you’ll be productive from day zero. There are annoyances from time to time, sure, but they’re way fewer and simpler to deal with than the hoops you’ve to go through to get a minimal and viable/productive Linux desktop experience.

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    I’ll chime in to say their “Enterprise Linux” support is (or at least WAS in 2015) merely a wine wrapper. That said, I strongly dislike ESRI and would recommend any number of open source alternatives.

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      Yes they suck for sure. Its just better to use currently as I dont have to recreate everything, as we pretty much sit there and get a GUI training lol

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    I’d bail on ArcGIS. It’s expensive and QGIS does everything you could possibly need to do without the price tag, or the windows dependency. If you know ArcGIS, Q will feel very familiar.

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      Do you have links for alternative resources for data, overlays etc? And does all the coding stuff work similarly?

      Yes I hate this seminar. Its basically Microsoft/ArcGis advertising, so horrible

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        They have plug-ins for web tiles, and you can connect to the ArcGIS map services. It has a terminal, but I don’t use that function much. I generally do all data manipulation and prep using Python and postGIS, and use Q as a visualization and editing tool. But it has plugins for just about everything. Most of the data resources ESRI gives you is repackaged public data, so searching the internet will provide you with most of the layers you might need.

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          Esri is such a piece of shit. The same as Komoot, but corporate. How can they make so much money by reusing loosely licensed FOSS stuff?

          I dont know, I think these projects made a big mistake using so loose licenses

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    If you need to work with their FGDB format you can do that in newer versions of QGIS

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    Not sure what your use case is, but consider something like geojson.io if you can export the map data somehow. You might be able to do this from their interface or you might have to do browser network capturing to capture the requested data. It supports GeoJSON as well as KML, GPX, CSV, GTFS, TopoJSON formats.

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      Qgis has Openstreetmaps data source, but I was thinking of custom community based layers like “all wildfires in 2023” etc

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        I see. With the link you should be able to query a geojson file that can then be imported into geojson.io. I used Query ‘GLOBALID IS NOT null’ to get the top 50 of 2000 results. That should give you a starting piont. The first link is just a way to query the data in this link

        I’m unfamilar with Qgis but I have been able to import layers into geojson.io before from arcGIS.

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    QGIS is a very nice piece of software, definitely worth checking out. Some of our geographers use Mapinfo (proprietary) but most use QGIS. Everyone hates ESRI.

    Some of your classes might require some ESRI plugins… I would check with your teachers if it’s okay to use QGIS, they will certainly know the answer to that question.

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      I asked already and they said “use the Uni PCs but you can also do a presentation about QGIS”

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    I tried this for the same reasons about ten years ago (college, free, etc) and found it to be essentially an insurmountable challenge. It’s a bummer since they support Linux in other ways.

    Maybe it is easier now.

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      It looks like it’s “garbage” quality.

      To be fair, that’s also true when running natively under Windows.

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    ESRI, the Microsoft or Adobe of Cartography. It’s a shame that public authorities get convinced to pay double.

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    Wine’s AppDB marks this as “garbage” aka “doesn’t run at all”. This is yet another case of Wine overpromising and underdelivering and also the typical collective delusion that desktop Linux is as user-friendly and productive as its mainstream counterparts.

    Also, if one lives in a bubble and doesn’t to collaborate with others then native Linux apps might work and might even deliver a decent workflow. Once you’ve to collaborate with others who use Windows/Mac it’s game over – the “alternatives” aren’t just up to it. Linux might be great but it isn’t for everyone and anyone. If you need to do your job without small annoyances that will curb your productivity it isn’t, most likely, for you.

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      True. Office 365 is key, Libreoffice with git is simply not existing, leave alone co working at the same time. Onlyoffice simply sucks, even though I am sure they do great work and its complex.

      Cryptpad is great, but not really necessary and thereby often slow.

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        Cryptpad is a joke. OnlyOffice could somehow work for a web thing but the license kills it.

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            Cryptpad is great,

            How so, they don’t even have a document editor that is even remotely comparable to LibreOffice, OnlyOffice or any other thing… and they really push their document “rich editor” a LOT and try to hide the OnlyOffice ones. They only seems to be willing to allow OnlyOffice to show spreadsheets.

            Also Cryptpad is a pile of overly complex shit that amounts to nothing and that can be compromised - its all just pointless overhead. Anyone using a simple FileBrowser setup is better.

            What license problem?

            The documents sever isn’t free nor it isn’t unlimited users https://www.onlyoffice.com/docs-enterprise-prices.aspx Even if you just use the desktop version the license goes and beats around the bush in questionable ways.

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              Ok so you dont like Richtext? Thats okay, but doesnt really matter. Fork it if you dont like it?

              Richtext will simply work better and faster, even though I understand it sucks for some things.

              Having encrypted data on a server and decrypt it in the browser is not useless. I dont think you are using the correct wording here, sounds a bit polemic to me.

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                You were suggesting their thing was comparable to OnlyOffice/LibreOffice when in fact is isn’t, not even in the same planet.

                Having encrypted data on a server and decrypt it in the browser is not useless.

                Yes until it fails do decrypt or fucks up your document in some other way.