VS Codium.
It’s VS Code, minus the Microsoft bullshit.
Source code is MIT licensed.
Please stop treating code editors as if they were IDEs.
VS Codium/Code is not an IDE, and it never claimed to be. It’s a code editor, like Kate, Vim, Neovim, etc. It only integrates a language server for code editing and some static analysis. It does not integrate a debugger, build system, test system, execution, etc.
IDEs are old school large systems that integrate a code editor, build system, test automation, etc., such as M$ Visual Studio (not Cod(e|ium)), CodeBlocks, Eclipse, JetBrains software suite, etc. They are complete opposition of the UNIX philosophy that the program must do only one thing and do it well.
Besides, when dealing with IDEs, I used to like Eclipse C/C++ and Corrosion IDE because one could easily add link-time dependencies to a project and it generated sophisticated makefiles for you. Besides, if you have a more custom workflow, like auto-generation of source code from a domain-specific language, there’s no IDE that can help you. This is the downside of IDEs. Also, nowadays, I found that NeoVim+Coc with Meson build system makes the same thing and even better.
Can you elaborate? I can do debugging, run code and tests in VS Code.
VSC has JSON configurations for executing tasks but it’s non-trivial to configure. A proper IDE would provide a graphical, fool-proof configuration for that because it’s easy for non-professional to accidentally destroy your JSON file.
Also, if you have to use terminal in an IDE for trivial tasks, then it’s also not an IDE.
Not that I liked GUIs, but with IDEs, like Eclipse or Visual Studio, one wouldn’t have to configure something with JSONs.
VSCodium’s debuggers do have point-and-click configuration.
I think your point stands, though - the easy-button debugger setup has plenty of room to improve, and the majority of the user community focuses on the JSON debugger config - so most developers using VSCodium are going to be hand-crafting JSON configs to set up their debugger.
Vs code is an IDE change my mind
vscode/vscodium + addons is an IDE
It does not integrate a debugger, build system, test system, execution, etc.
All of those things have been available in VSCode and VSCodium as production-ready plugins, supported by major vendors (mostly Microsoft) from almost day one.
Weirdly, as an extreme example, VSCodium with the MSSQL plugin is a better SQL IDE than most dedicated SQL IDEs.
As far as I’m concerned, as long as the editor alone can handle every step of the process from development to testing to version control to deployment to debugging, it’s an IDE.
I don’t care if it doesn’t natively ship with all these things and you have to append them with plugins. (I thought we championed software that doesn’t force bloat features we’ll never use down our throats?) The only applicable factors are that it exposes the extensibility to add them, and that someone has added them.
Does that make EMACS and Vim IDEs, too? If you’ve sufficiently tricked them out with plugins, extensions, and helper scripts to do every part of your pipeline without leaving the editor, then I guess so! It is an Environment that has Integrated everything you need for Development. If it quacks like a duck…
VS Code is an IDE, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
I just wish finding all references didn’t take an entire minute to show me a single reference though. By the time it loads I don’t even remember why I care what’s referencing the function anymore.
It’s probably Emacs, but I’m a Neovim user, so I’m going to go with that.
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no love for jetbrains ides?
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Emacs, because it’s so configurable that if it isn’t the best FOSS IDE it’s your own fault for not configuring it right.
Neovim all the way, super fast and lends you heavy control.
how does not having a gui work? it’s just the terminal right?
Intellij IDEA Community Edition
Helix. This is the one that could potentially be the successor to vim.
I could never be a successor to vim. However micro is a pretty good editor.
I love helix, I just wish the development was a bit faster. The main developers are all quite busy and I would love nothing more for them to be able to use some of the open collective money to pay themselves to work on it full time for a bit. I think in a year or two it will be amazing.
I love helix
Woah woah, not so fast.
Love you too
how do you have that robot symbol beside you
Bleep bloop, I’m a bot. To also have a 🤖 beside your name, enable the ‘this is a bot account’ flag in your Lemmy instance’s settings.
micro + makefiles. It’s very very fast.
VSCodium is OK aswell, has lots of extensions, but a bit slow. I can work with it way better than with IntelliJ products though.
Makefileclub for life.
VSCodium, emacs, vim/neovim, helix.
Helix is pretty slick, but it’s not very extensible. Very easy to use and if the out of the box features are good enough for you then it’s a fine IDE.
Neovim is my preference unless I’m working with Jupyter notebooks, in which case I switch to vscodium. It’s a pain in the ass to set up. I took the easy way out with LazyVim. It’s fast to work with and I can use it for almost everything.
I dabbled with emacs many years ago. It’s like vim but completely different. You can make it do anything. Personally, I don’t care for the keyboard shortcuts. It’s probably easier to pick up than vim, but all the key chords and sequences are too much for me. In any case, anyone willing to look at vim should also take a look at emacs.
VSCodium is accessible and extensible. You can’t go wrong with this one. It can’t refactor like the Jetbrains stuff, but if there’s anything else it can’t do then I don’t know what it is. It’s a great IDE.
Really, any of these can do just about any job and do it very well. There’s no choice that clearly stands above the others. It really comes down to personal preference.
Helix is pretty slick, but it’s not very extensible.
Bruh, thanks for the compliment, but I can be very flexible.
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Emacs because it lets you configure everything exactly the way you want it. You can also go with Neovim, but it only runs in the terminal.
