I might switch from Mega if it becomes a nix package. They already have CLI as a nix package so here’s hoping for the app as well.
If the source is available, it’s usually trivial to package up in Nix—& even then, a lotta .deb & .rpm files repackaged in Nixpkgs already.
I did that with Root chat app and it’s been a thorn in my side to update the SHA every now and then. I want it done by someone else.
My 1Tb nextcloud instance cost around 10CAD per month and I get office suite and much more. I don’t understand why people and organisation don’t use it more. It’s gsuite or ms365 on a private server.
the problem with orgs is that is not tied to a few users.
you need something scalable, higly reilable and with high availability.
that costs more than a single instance (load balancer + mettered traffic + separated database + N number of deployments + s3 storage), plus you need to pay for the sysadmin/devops engineer who will deploy and maintain that.
having that reduced for a single package in which you just pay per user… that reduces a lot.
for small orgs or entities, what you propose makes sense, and their IT person could handle it. but not when you start having more than 10 concurrent users and their issues…
(they could use nextcloud from entities who resell the service, this is something that would work as a replacement to o365 and goolag workspaces)
Where are you hosting it for that low?
Which VPS do you use?
Chipping in to say that they already have a great CLI app for Linux. I have it set up to auto-backup the Vaultwarden database on my homelab. Just type
jotta-cli add <your folder>and it will be automatically synced!A GUI app is great for making it accessible to more people, though 😊
Great to see more european services.
Great to see more european services.
Norway not being a member of EU, i had to check:
The General Data Protection Regulation (Regulation (EU) 2016/679), abbreviated GDPR, is a European Union regulation on information privacy in the European Union (EU) and the European Economic Area (EEA).
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That’s not what they said
Europe is a continent, EU is an alliance on that continent, not all European services are EU-based
like i wrote under another comment, i don’t care about Europe but the rights that come with GDPR and EU.
I wasn’t sure, i checked and i learned.
I shared what i’ve learned thinking that there would be some others who, like me, wasn’t sure about GDPR applicability in Norway.yeah, Norway is in Europe! Who cares? Hungary too is in Europe! Georgia too. Some percent of Turkey and Russia too.
“European services”! Yay!
Let’s celebrate!Norway has just as strict privacy laws as the EU
Norway is apart of the EEA though… So it does still comply with GDPR ontop of their own privacy laws.
Still a european member, and have GDPR. Just not a member of the EU
did you even read what i wrote?
Yeah, you’re doing the “erm akchually” thing when it doesn’t matter.
Yeah, you’re doing the “erm akchually” thing when it doesn’t matter.
not at all. Exactly like i wrote, i wasn’t sure if GDPR was applicable in Norway.
UK too is in Europe without, now, being in EU. Apparently GDPR is modified for UK.Russia too is considered a European state! “yay, European services!” ?
It’s not about “erm actually” and I don’t understand why you’re so defensive about my first comment.
Interesting, anyone familiar with thrir privacy, securityrecord?
Dude, their pricing is amazing. I signed up for the free tier to try it out first.
yeah, those prices are epic for retail… like cheap enough to make me skeptical.
Use Nextcloud
Any cloud storage without an S3 API is going to be a tough sell for me.
At least there is an rclone integration https://rclone.org/jottacloud/.
How about Filen? They support S3 block storage, they also support self-hosting if you’re into that
I’d like to ask people who use cloud storage what exactly you use it for. I’ve never understood the appeal. I barely use half the storage on my devices and for backups I just have an external drive. Syncing things can be done p2p via something like syncthing. So what is the actual use case for a centralized paid cloud service?
Not a diehard fan or heavy user of it anymore but it is, frankly, weird you’d even need to ask.
- It’s available where ever you have a connection. You can’t forget it or not realize you would need it. It’s just always available.
- It’s off site if something happens at home.
- Assuming you trust them, your data is safe. It’s not going to fail. It’s managed by someone paid to keep data safe for you. Economies of scale let them have more redundancy and verification than you. No stray atomic partical is going to flip a bit while it is on their servers.
- You can be lazy about it. I keep a working NAS, an older, slower NAS I back up that NAS to, and gave family offsite another NAS that I also back up to. I have many backup tasks and don’t rely on cloud storage. However, I need to, at least on occasion, make sure everything is still working… or I can fuck something up if I don’t property document or pay attention when doing anything major. Wouldn’t need to worry about that if I just used the cloud.
I guess I’m just not like super plugged in? Like your point about it being available anywhere. I keep my mp3s synced between my laptop and desktop so I can listen to music from both but I don’t use it outside the house. In the car I have little sd cards that have music in them that I plug in. And the radio. Mostly when I’m out and about I don’t need the internet or anything I have stored on my computers. What is it that you need access to all the time? As for data backups the only thing I really NEED to have is my passwords and I don’t trust the cloud with that. I do backup like my music library and stuff too but I just put it on an external drive. If I was paranoid about like losing it because my house burned down or something I would just stick a copy of those drives into a safety deposit box for cold storage. I’m genuinely curious what things you keep in the cloud that you need access to on the fly like that.
I don’t keep them in the cloud because every company these days is either horrendous or one acquisition away from being horrendous. I use a VPN and can access anything I need from my homelab where ever I am. However, if I didn’t feel so negatively about the companies just keeping things in the cloud would be easier.
Personally, I guess you could call me “super plugged in” if you want and just leave it at that. I use a lot of technology both professionally and as a hobby. I don’t need most things all the time, it’s just nice to have whatever I want, or on rare occasions need, whenever and where ever. Notes, records, documents, music, audiobooks, etc. Someone asks me about a recipe, I have it to share immediately. I get delayed for 20 or 30 minutes or have a long drive? Continue my audiobook or listen to music. It’s convenient to have something and be able to actually use it whenever.
Similarly, I have so many spare sets of tools in different places if I need to fix something for myself or someone else. Yet I still, somehow, find myself without the right tool sometimes and that really bothers me. I want to be helpful and useful. I could solve a problem, I have the tool, but I don’t have it with me in the moment. The same feeling hits me when I don’t have access to my digital stuff, hence the VPN.
My point isn’t “OMG how could you even live without the cloud?” I just don’t understand how you can pretend it offers no obvious convenience.
I mean I’m not saying it doesn’t offer things to you. That’s why I asked. I think maybe what’s obvious to you just isn’t obvious to me because I don’t do stuff like that. Like my life really would not change that much if I lived it in the 90s instead of today. I just don’t do much stuff that requires me to have access to files on the fly, or show them to other people. I genuinely don’t think I’ve ever needed to show someone else a digital file in my entire life that I was not emailing. If I was going to see someone in person I just print it out. And even thats rare.
The biggest plus (for me) is “access anywhere”. If you’ve ever needed a document in a hurry, it becomes easier to understand.
I self-host nextcloud on a vps for this and other solutions.
Well I guess maybe its work related stuff then? I don’t work in the officey/white collar sector so maybe that’s why I don’t get it.
Me either. I’m a semi-retired social worker. Still, there are times I’ve needed “proof of something” that I have available on my “cloud”.
If you’re an artist, you can have a portfolio there.
Syncthing is a PITA to set up, especially if you want to exclude certain files from syncing to all devices in your “pool”. It’s super cool, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not easy to configure.
For my use case, Seafile is much better. I host it in house and everything I sync goes to the server, then I can choose what I want downloaded to any other device or just grab files as neccessary. I use it backup documents and downloads on each client (Android, Linux desktop, and Macbook). Then if I need a file that I had downloaded to my laptop, but it’s not in reach I can use my phone to pull JUST that file easily.
NOTE: Some people do not like Seafile because it stores data on the server in git-like chunks rather than flat files. I have my own way to manage that so I’m not worried. It’s also a Chinese owned company. But I don’t pay them, I host it at home, and it has not telemetry or internet access
What was so hard about it? Their web gui is pretty good I thought.
For my use case, needing to do the exclusions was the friction point for me personally. I did find the initial set up confusing too. For non-techy people, including myself when I tried it for the first time in the sense I wasn’t familiar with FOSS or Linux at all, it was confusing as hell. I’ll admit I haven’t tried it again since. But so far Seafile is the ticket for what I want to do with file sync across multiple OS and clients
What exclusions do you mean? Like specific files in a folder that you don’t want synced?
I have my nextcloud instance that back up my important files from phone and computers. I also work with petty heavy audio and video sessions that I need to share and be able to access from other computers. The nextcloud sever makes things so much easier for us. The minute I change something and save it in a audio session, these changes will reflect on other computers accessing the project. That’s on top of when I need to share to files to random people, or work on share document in real time with others.I guess not everyone needs these features, but it was a game changer for me so having this services on my own server is actually great.
Yeah I don’t do that stuff but if I did I’d use my own one like you. A self hosted one. I don’t think I’d ever trust some company with my data.
I think is like a team/corporate solution thing. Idk, i don’t get it either.
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