Jon von Tetzchner, CEO and founder of Vivaldi Technologies, refuses to integrate AI features in its browser and wants human engineers, not AI, to write its code.
“Customers don’t want it” is surprisingly difficult to understand for a lot of companies nowadays. Vivaldi must be run by some sort of language genius.
cool. open source your product and i might consider using it
I’m going to stick with Firefox but also because they take the same stance.
Excel when they aren’t. Firefox bundles AI with their browser. Sure they let you turn it off. But it’s turned on by default and still there.
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I really do appreciate that he has enough sense to recognize everyone hates AI, I just wish he also had enough sense to recognize Vivaldi sucks.
Vivaldis not bad. Good for work where you need different profiles; not crazy resource intensive
I’m on librewolf just now having used vivaldi for about three years as my daily. Great browser, I just fancied swapping the chromium problems for gecko problems for a while :D
Well, that’s true… For the moment
Can you say more? Do you mean that people may want AI in the browser soon? I’m just curious.
Most likely they notice the pattern that corporations are inherently slimy, selfish, and shortsighted. It might be anti-ai now a days but how long will that last?
Seems much of Lemmy is still married to Firefox despite all their slop and Alphabet funding.
I’m going to keep beating the Vivaldi drum as their mission has always been clear. Yes I understand the chromium backbone, but as long as uBlock continues to work I’m staying on board.
UBlock origin is just so much better than any other ad blocker, and it’s Firefox’s main feature.
So Firefox main feature is something made not by Firefox? That’s a little sad. Why not use uBlock on Vivaldi?
Because it’s chromium-based and Google broke that possibility on purpose. It’s what they get for being Google’s bitch.
It works just fine if you aren’t using chrome. It’s not broke in chromium.
Googles bitch? You mean firefox? The company that wouldn’t exist without a regular paycheck from google?
You can like one thing without having to shit on the other. Firefox is fine. Vivaldi is cool. Simple as that. Not everything is a team sport.
Nah, they don’t just like it; they’re married to it. And with that into the clan that wanders around the steppes, downvoting every thing that challenges them and their beloved. This is, in essence, The Browser War that really doesn’t have any other participants.
Is their beloved good? lol, well it’s constantly in the news for all the wrong reasons. Is it a good experience? If you’re into being a sub, yes. Does it perform well? Such questions are not allowed in the clan, but they believe it to be so based on clan size.
Most of all, they swear against Chromium, but park their Steam icons right next to Firefox on their desktop trays.
There is no mercy for anyone seen not using Firefox. Mixed-browser friendships are an abomination. Not caring much about extensions is death.
I’m not shitting, just explaining reason I don’t like it.
Seems more like you’re explaining why you think others shouldn’t like it.
Try not to read into it too much.
The browser wars require browser fighting words, I am always happy to hear critique about these products… especially in 2026 when the corpo’s meta game is to completely stifle any and all bad PR / reviews / discussion.
It is really important that no single project or company dominates the web. Any browser based on chromium is not going to be well received by people concerned about current engine diversity. Whatever people think of the Mozilla corp or foundation and their stewardship, there is a strong public interest in promoting wider use of the Gecko engine and any other Blink alternatives. Many here will be running forks like librewolf to remove Firefox features we don’t want or trust.
In a healthy ecosystem people will use a diversity of products that suit their individual tastes and needs and that is fine. Advocates warning against over dependence on Chromium are doing it with very good intentions. We don’t need everyone to switch. We only need enough to avoid a mono-culture and the death of the open web. There is plenty of room left for diversity and freedom of choice.
The majority don’t even think about what browser they are using and use what is installed by default. They are the real battle. If a fraction of them did some research and made an informed choice, even if many chose Chromium browsers, the ecosystem would be much healthier.
Continuing to use Firefox so that Google has to keep wasting their money on it to avoid the antitrust lawsuit >>>
As someone who’s extremely picky about my browsers/extensions/etc AND who’s forced to use Edge and Chrome at work…. I make due with Firefox because everything else is just off enough that I can’t commit to ‘em longterm
Does casting tabs to a TV work?
Why would you cast tabs specifically to a TV and not just cast to the entire TV Itself and just make it a big pseudo monitor? 🤔
