Just confirming what I’ve suspected: the point of the space datacenter thing is to keep the tools of oppression out of reach of angry mobs with torches and pitchforks.
Data center in space: untouchable
Strictly necessary ground radio station to get any usable amount of data to and from said data center: still flammable
You wouldn’t say untouchable if you’d seen me with a slingshot.
You could burn the ground stations down, but they’re all around the world, and all it takes is 1 to route the data to via the inter satellite laser links. You’d definitely add latency though taking out ground stations near you.
Keeping one rack of GPU running needs basically all the uninhabited parts of the international space station. That’s roughly 100 kilowatt. That’s 10.000 ISS sized installations, man’s most expensive object ever made, for a gigawatt datacenter. I just hope he’s forced to bankroll this personally
Vacuum does not vent heat.
This has been a PSA.
Vacuum does not vent heat.
my Dyson gets pretty warm.
Still kinda blows my mind that a ship could accelerate to 1c and still not be able to use cooling fins, aircraft on earth use it as part of the design process
no worries about the temperature if the ship collides with a spec of spacedust :)
No but hot things will just radiate it away, regardless of vacuum.
Apparently there are a lot of concerns, of which, one is venting heat. Also the change of heat as a satellite dips in and out of sunlight.
I didn’t think about radiation, which I should have since it’s a not-small problem for human astronauts.
Heavy CMEs are going to be the AI equivalent of Purple Haze LSD.
He will do absolutely anything to not spend money on making the world he lives in a better place for all. So build a data center in space, just add a little apartment for yourself. Imagine looking down on the whole world! What power!
Is there somewhere we can donate to help make sure he
fries in a coronal mess ejectionlives the dream he’s always wanted?With our current tech, a Mars mission pretty much 100% certain a one-way trip.
Common elon, wheres your “move fast and break stuff” spirit? Lets get you suited up and on a rocket asap!
Imagine how rapidly he could innovate on a constant acceleration vector out of the solar system!
Good luck dumbfuck, tell me how easy it is to service, maintain and repair them when you inevitably overheat them, or don’t have the proper shielding so components burn out or degrade beyond useful parameters.
Mars is all red, maybe you want to restart those plans and take your flock of sheeple with you as soon as possible?
I read somewhere recently that they found out Martian soil (regolith) is chalk full (0.5 to 1%) of pechlorates. So I don’t know why this Martian terraform thing is even still talked about. The dust is literally toxic, any food you grow there would also be full of pechlorates as the roots will suck them up with their nitrate transport systems.
Just look at the daily temperatures on Mars. It’s all stupid.
and no, we not mining in space.
As much as I dislike Musk, he probably could tell you in detail. His company is not the only one looking into compute in space, either.
Nah, it’s a grift. The Melon’s pitch straight up includes factually wrong physics claims. It is not easier, nor cheaper, to have data centers in space.
Actual scientists have done the math. Even disregarding maintenance for data corruption from radiation, and assuming the best near future tech. It would take 10 times an ISS equivalent structure to power and cool down a single server rack.
Musk promised he wants to get 1 Tera Watt of LLM processing power in orbit. That’s 10,000 times an ISS of solar panels and IR radiators for cooling. The enterprise is completely unrealistic.
The whole thing is just a con to get governments to funnel more money into his companies without having to deliver any actual results.
Yeah, other CEOs also fail basic physics.
Almost like Musk had to buy his physics diploma, eh?
I want Elon Musk in space, aimlessly drifting around.
Wow. He really is as dumb as I thought. As much as I would appreciate him investing the kind of money that would be required to orbit a viable data center into things humanity actually needs, I would also be perfectly happy witnessing him blow hundreds of billions on a fruitless project. Dumb shit doesn’t even understand basic physics and thermodynamics. It just demonstrates how he is an “ideas man” while actual smart people carry him on their shoulders. Wish he would just fuck off to mars already.
While he’s not smart enough to understand what a tough problem cooling servers in space would be, at least some of the engineers working on it might invent some interesting technology while failing to build a datacenter in space. Which is more than I can say about his other expenses like failing to buy elections, or failing to only have sons.
Wow. He really is as dumb as I thought.
no, his shareholders are dumb.
Please, waste your money on something that needs several football fields big heat radiators per gigawatt. And cannot replace a hard drive without launching a technician into space.
lol let him waste his money on an impossible technology
He doesn’t waste his money on his companies. He wastes tax payer funding on them. And when that started drying up, he took it to the stock market, convinced the exchange to fast track adding his company to being eligible for indexes, and then wasted our 401ks on it. He’s the ultimate con man.
Yes but that only lasted weeks before collapsing. The end is coming, he is now trying to roll Twitter into spacex. It’s where his real riches are. When it eventually goes, so does his money
That’s what he does. When one company starts having issues, his other company will bail it out or outright buy it. It’s a constant shell game.
I think my point is that his wealth is based on the game and like anyone who passes bad checks between accounts, the reckoning eventually catches up. He’s going to lose big over the next few years.
I’m hoping for a push by the people to pressure the Democrats to defund Musk. All his tech is shit and hurts people.
With Trump, he got no-bids.
Unfortunately there are still a ton of people that think he is some genius engineer and visionary. I would love for him to get cut off, I just don’t have high hopes for it. Ideally he is cut off and sent to prison or sent back to South Africa.
Yes. The investment market is based entirely on vibes, which means Trump/Musk shysters thrive. That might be a good use for AI that doesn’t hallucinate: create a data-driven investment advisor that works.
While we’re at it, a data-driven c-suite manager that actually cares about productivity will make workplaces much less toxic. One can dream.
And kill us all by destroying the ozone layer again? No thank you.
I’m not sure what it has to do with the ozone, please explain.
One of the major environmental issues with launching mega-constellations is the environmental impact of their end-of-life deorbiting. As satellites reenter the atmosphere, they create aluminum oxide particulate that has a negative impact on the ozone layer.
Thanks
Because, of course they do. We always have to find ways to destroy our beautiful planet, as if a new Earth-like planet is just a skip away.
Don’t you worry your poor little mind…the same folks destroying everything for their wealth are working on magic space ships to get us to earth 2, environmental bugaloo.
Elmo will have to move to Floriderp.
kinda hard to do that when he invested so much time and money on blexas
Elon should do I it. Really. Either we get to see what noone understands yet: How economically viable server cooling at scale in space looks like or we see Elon faceplant financially yet again.
Either way, we win.
Just a reminder, while they speak of data centers in space, their proposed satellite is actually more like a single server rack in space.
It’s always misleading, you can’t even trust their choice of words.
For a man who keeps talking about colonizing Mars, Musk seems remarkably surprised that you can’t permanently colonize a state’s politics. Spending hundreds of millions on campaigns didn’t come with a warranty, and moving SpaceX again won’t change how voting works.
I doubt voting would be allowed on Mars if Musk gets his way.
oh no it would be allowed. but it would be designed similar to spaceX’s share policy. Voting is allowed as long as he personally either is indifferent or wants the change, but the second he doesn’t want the change his single vote will override the majority.
We can also launch Elmo into space and… Well, just forget about him, good riddance
Democrats immediately win three of the four seats on the Moon and sweep the Sky Council.
