You’re living in a townhouse as part of an apartment complex. The apartment complex has benefits such as a pool and hot tub, indoor gym, full size basketball court, a library, and a garden. You have 2 other roommate/coworkers, and you have 6 neighbor/coworkers. A Labor neutrality agreement is guaranteed, and both tenant unions and labor unions will be voluntarily recognized.
No.
We tried that with coal mining. Results were disastrous.
Read history.
Read the thread. It’s not a company town.
It’s entirely exactly a company town.
A company town has all of these things?
- Provides housing independently of the job
- Job is paid by the government
- Apartment complex is managed by the people who live there
- Has a Labor neutrality agreement
- Will voluntarily recognize labor and tenant unions
The job providing housing while paying starvaton wages is what makes it a company town.
Sounds lovely, until you and the employer stop being on the same page about the tiniest of things.
Then it starts spiraling into a personal housing security crisis.
And you can forget about thinking of changing jobs any time soon. The moment your 2 weeks end, you’re homeless.
The tenant and labour union stuff sounds nice, but they’re not a magical fix. They can and often are bought and controled. While better than the alternative, they’re not a guarantee of protectedness.
This doesn’t mean the model is dead on arrival. It’s just not one I’d choose. I’d rather have a seperate boss and landlord, thank you very much.
In some countries, 15€/hr is very livable (around 2,4k€ a month working 40 hours per week), especially if you don’t need to pay rent.
We tried this before, they were called company towns and they got banned because they’re a horrifically abusive practice.
Imagine living around the same people you work with. Imagine a company that won’t even let you take a piss break having control over your housing situation. Imagine getting fired and having to move out of your apartment the same day.
The broader idea is that the job is paid by the government as part of a program to end homelessness
Then it’s housing that comes with a job, not a job that comes with housing. There’s an important difference.
Never thought of it like that
I’m sort of in that boat. Boarding school provides accommodation for some staff, and I got lucky. Teacher assistant doesnt need any fancy degrees or certificates. (Passed year 12 and a Working with Children clearance).
Indentured servitude? Company owned housing? What am I, dumb as fuck? Well, I might be dumb but not as fuck.
But i am convinced the younger gens will be fooled by something like this and sign themselves away into slavery again.
Please read the rest of the thread. This isn’t a company town
Nope, roommate is a big nope. Give me a 1 bedroom to myself and yes I’d accept that deal. $15/hr with a 1b1b covered completely is a fair deal.
Oh but…I’m gonna need you to come in more this week and… if not… you can find another place to live.
Apart from company town concerns, I assumed you’re not being paid in scrip. This could be a great opportunity if this is something that sounds interesting to you. Do you know what rent is if you lose your job? How much float time can you save up off of $15/hour?
Rough math (double check me, I am bad at math): take average rent, divide by 160, and add that to your $15/hour to get a better idea of what you’re getting out of it via free housing.
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This is what we call a company town. Soon you won’t get real money, just monopoly money you can only use at the company store. No thanks.
I know that’s not exactly what you’re scenario is saying but, feels too slippery of a slope for me personally.
You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.
It is one step back into this. It’s something we fight and died over in the past as workers only for these people to bring it back up again as a perk.
We learned this in school so I’m assuming the younger gens aren’t learning any history at all unless it’s a lie “Trump fought wwii single handedly!”
I was gonna say, this sounds like a company town. I’ve seen some videos on company towns and they’re fairly glamorous tbh, I forget the drawbacks, I’m sure it has its drawbacks.
In old school mining company towns the drawback was that they didn’t pay you in real money. They paid you in essentially monopoly money. The currency they gave you was only usable at places owned by the company. The issue becomes, you don’t like your job and want to leave? You have no money. You can’t leave.
What about being fully enslaved to a fucking corp seems glamorous?!
Like the living conditions I saw were pretty good. From housing to the gym they had and everything
I have more details in other threads, but it’s distinct from a company town in that the job is paid by the government, the housing is provided independently of the job, and the housing is controlled by the people who live there
How do you save money to leave if you want to? That’s where the difference will be and at $15 an hour… you’re never leaving.
If that were the case then why would your roommates and neighbors be fellow employees? Also how would the government afford said housing if they’re also subsidizing the company you work for to allow them to be competitive for employees while only paying $15/hr?
Your scenario sounds like it at least has checks and balances which is the only way this could work without employees getting screwed.
No way, absolutely not. Even if I subtract my mortgage payments from my salary, $15/hr still less than a third of my remaining income. Plus, I have a wife and kid. We aren’t all fitting in a townhouse with two roommates.
Also, I don’t think I can go back to apartment living. I don’t like neighbors or people.
State owned company or Walmart?
Fuck no.
Nope
With roommates? Hell no.
