• sunbytes@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    It may be just how normalised it is for English speakers to hear people speaking English imperfectly.

    There’s no shame or judgement in it. But when you find whimsy, oh boy.

    I still say “delicious” in the way my Greek coworker did almost a decade ago, because it sounds better

    And my dog trainer called my dog’s arse his anoos one time and now that’s all we call it. Talking about mine? Arse. The dog’s? Anoos.

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      4 days ago

      My wife worked with a guy from Korea and when he got upset at work he would say ‘I go to mad!’

      We randomly say that when we get upset. It’s a more fun way of expressing your anger.

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      Also there are so many dialects with heavy variables that it’s entirely possible to get a group of people all speaking english who can’t understand each other. Throw someone with a thick Louisiana Cajun accent, a West Country dude, and Nevada hick into a room together and I don’t think they’d understand each other. Maybe the hick could understand the West Countryman but that’d be about where it’d end.

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      4 days ago

      For me, I watch tons of anime and I always find it funny when the characters try to speak English, especially if it’s supposed to be a native English speaker. There are also all of the loan words which they’ve modified to fit better into the flow of the language, but they sound funny/cutesy to me/English speakers.

      I am very careful to remind myself that anime isn’t real life and I’d never make fun of a real life Japanese person trying to speak English, but for anime it’s part of its quirky charm.

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    English is already a mess. The only people I’ve ever met who get persnickety about it with non-native speakers are assholes. I’d rather ‘correct’ them with a swift kick in the kisser.

    Don’t be embarrassed if your English isn’t perfect. It’s normal, and it’s okay. We’re all learning.

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    5 days ago

    Can confirm, this is basically how it goes in Texas. Almost a decade ago, my best friend and I were browsing this little hole in the wall shop in central TX run by an elderly Japanese couple. They got to chatting with us and at one point, said we were “forever friends”. I’ve been using that phrase to describe us ever since.

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    I love little expressions and turns of phrase. English is basically the remnants of other languages at this point.

    It’s the world’s pidgin, and the world ain’t over yet.

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    4 days ago

    In Japan, my experience has been if you use a word wrong, Japanese people will give out a pained laugh. If you ask for advice on the right word to use, the conversation ends.

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    I was taking a summer afternoon nap with my girlfriend (now wife) and got up to look out the window for some reason about 8 years ago. She got up in a sleepy haze and said “Are you leave without say goodbye?”

    We’ve been saying that to each other since.

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    One phrase I have eaten from Joe Abercrombie for anything eloquenty put is simply “those were good words”. Even simple words hit hard when meant sincerely.

    Would recommend the book series (First Law trilogy)!

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    Have you met English? It’s a fucked up amalgamation of meshed up loan words and spellings that don’t sound like they are spelled. There are no rules only vibes. We have grammar police but I feel the same way about them that I do all cops. ACAB.

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    In japan don’t you just get jouzu’d for any less than native equivalency and/or for looking too gaijin

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    It is annoying that native speakers of languages other than English correct the way they do. But then again, anglophones have been listening to bad colonial English spoken in one global accent or another for almost 600 years now. Less true of other languages, with the exception perhaps of Latin, 2000 years ago.

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        4 days ago

        Read up on this. These are made-up stories written by AI based on prompts in Japanese.

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          3 days ago

          I get the hatred for AI. I hate how I’m expected to be some sort of AI detective before even thinking about posting stuff on the Internet even more though.

          I’m not debating that this is AI. If you say it is, I believe you. I’m just more annoyed that someone went through the effort to make the original post in AI and that the onus seems to be on me to make sure everything I post isnt AI.

          Back in the stone age of the internet, it was largely up to the reader to decide if something was bullshit or not. More Importantly, we didn’t take shitposts seriously at all.

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            Hey, you don’t have to be the super AI detective. You saw something funny and you posted it. However, other people have seen posts by this dude before and they know that it’s AI fiction, so it’s also perfectly reasonable for them to comment as such. That’s discourse.

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              You’re right, it is discourse, but it is also tiring to hear. If the discussion evolved into something interesting, like the larger impact of AI on society, I’d be right in there, but instead it just ends up being a dog whistle, and then the anti-AI bros show up with nothing new to say.

              Again, not against the discourse or discussion, and I’m not a big proponent of AI, it’s just like the "here’s the thing… or 5/7 with rice or banana for scale memes that used to show up everywhere, and you can’t seem to get away from. It doesn’t generally add to the post or the conversations around it.

              Maybe I just need to relax a bit and up my dose of metamucill, and go back to glowering out my window at the kids that ride their bikes across my lawn, though.

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        4 days ago

        It posts several times an hour and includes tons of AI images. It’s human-curated AI slop.

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          Are you talking about the account that posted this? If so: could be, I didn’t check that. I only checked the original artist behind the tweet. (And even so: I don’t have twitter, so I only took a look at the website. That looks fine. No idea about the twitter account)