• Keilik@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Just remember that most microplastics come from tires so you kinda don’t want to have food you eat growing right next to the road

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      Could make everything within ~3ft of the road non-edible natives, either companion plants for the food or native cultivars to help pollinators (which in turn, will help the edibles closer to the house). So there’s still a way to make this work!

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        19 days ago

        Not much besides crab grass will grow within 3 feet of our roads anyway because they literally salt the earth all winter with insane amounts of road de-icer in our part of the country. The only places that get a slight reprieve are homes near reservoirs or when it gets too cold for the melt temp and they switch to sand.

        It’s also why cars don’t last much more than 10 years unless undercoated and carefully maintained and cleaned all winter.

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          19 days ago

          I’ve got so much crab grass this year because of the plow tearing into the yard and then the municipality reseeding it and nothing growing there lol

          and both of my cars are rusty pieces of shit because I didn’t undercoat. body looks great, relatively… the frame and suspension and all brackets underneath are falling apart. a gas tank bracket disintegrated in my hand the other day.

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        20 days ago

        yeah tbf i would not wanna eat anything that close to sidewalk anyway. dogs pee and poop there

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      20 days ago

      One thing you’ll find out about a lot of MAGA-heads is that a lot of them just despise Democrats to their core and think Owning The Libs is more important than whatever the fuck Trump is actually up to.

      Very common to see this kind of guy up in New York or Massachusetts or out in California, where its barely more than a protest vote against whatever D-branded ghouls - your Newsoms and Cuomos and Katherine Clarks - are currently ruling their state. My dad was a staunch environmentalist, a shameless outspoken anti-racist, and a die-hard Reaganite. I still don’t understand it to this day, but he made the math work in his own head somehow.

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        One thing you’ll find out about a lot of MAGA-heads is that a lot of them just despise Democrats to their core and think Owning The Libs is more important than whatever the fuck Trump is actually up to.

        Owning the Libs by… checks notes creating a neighbourhood garden for friends to have free access to fresh fruits and veggies and… Wait a minute…

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        i tried. he then walked up to my house when i was not home and asked my wife, who also complimented his garden, “what position are you in when thinking about me and my garden?”

        so … trump flag + sex pest. = he can fuck off.

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          Lmfao oh my God that is classic boomer trump supporters, I’m sorry that happened but shit is kinda funny. They have no fucking filter.

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        My Maga neighbor will tell you how much he hates all the Black people in the neighborhood.

        I don’t think it’s a good idea to tell people to waste their time and energy on people that are not going to be saved. You can use that energy to help your own people and it is a much better use of it.

        And you know I’m going to take this a step further and ask you why the fuck you assume we’re not having conversations with those people? It’s them refusing the conversation. What rock have you crawled out from under?

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        You can’t have a conversation with someone who is unwilling to change their stance, no matter the evidence provided in front of them.

        I drive a blue car. I refuse to have a conversation with someone who tells me it’s yellow. Or that I don’t actually drive a car, but it’s actually a horse.

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      They are, just depends if you’re in an HOA or what the laws are if you’re within city limits. If you’re in unincorporated land then it’s pretty free and wild. Earth ships are a thing and started in New Mexico.

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        Hell, it even depends on the HOA. I live in an HOA and there are plenty of yards in the neighborhood like this. We have a pretty chill HOA. It doesn’t do much beyond taking care of a few communal spaces, organizing a couple of annual events like a community garage sale, and enforcing the most absolute basic of yard maintenance requirements. (A well-tended garden on the front yard is perfectly fine. Turning your yard into a junkyard or having three foot high grass in your front yard isn’t. You can do what you want with your property, it just needs to be clean and intentional. You could convert your whole yard over to zero-maintenance clover, and that would be perfectly fine.)

        And that’s the kind of HOA I like. I do want my neighbors to maintain their properties. I want people to be free to mold their homes into whatever form they want, but no one intentionally sets out to have a yard filled with junk cars or three foot high grass. People plant grass with the intention of mowing it, it just gets away from them.

        If you want grass, mow it. If you want a garden, plant it and tend it. If you want the lowest environmental impact and least effort, plant clover or other low-maintenance ground cover. Do whatever you want. I don’t care. Just keep it clean and intentional. Hell, one of my neighbors keeps a giant demon skeleton in their front yard year-round. It’s weird, but it’s intentional, so it’s fine.

        I don’t want to live in a neighborhood where every house is the same. I want the freedom to express myself through my home, and I want my neighbors to have the same freedom. But at the same time, I want to live in a place where people maintain their homes. I don’t care what form you maintain your home to. But I do want it maintained. Grow as big of a garden as you want, just don’t neglect it and let it get overgrown. If you just don’t have the time and resources for a lot of yard maintenance, plant something like clover. It doesn’t take a lot of effort or resources to keep a yard neat and clean.

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          Normal? Probably not normal anywhere. The money and effort in farming usually isn’t offset by the production of such a small plot. It would be more of a hobby. What is more common is a dedicated space for farming within a suburban area. Typically they have a shared area and you pay monthly for your plot. Either that or some people with a green thumb in urban areas can turn their high-rise apartment into quite the greenhouse.

          When it comes to feeding the masses efficiently farmland is still the dominant and most efficient method in most countries.

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      It can get overly complicated. there’s so many random laws that basically you give up. Like I have a tiny garden in the back yard, which won’t give you issues; but the front yard can result in a $250 daily fine if it’s not to their liking. I had to cut off part of my driveway, which everyone else has, so my lot can be more “herbaceous” because someone (neighbor that has a tree cutting company, salty cunt) across the street called the city about me trimming a tree so a branch so it didn’t fall on my roof. I made sure to get the shittiest invasive grass you can get.

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        20 days ago

        In Massachusetts near Boston I do not have to deal with any of that shit so my front yard looks exactly like this.

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          As Sam wrote, HOAs are terrible. I thought I escaped by moving only to have the city do the same, sigh. Bonus points: I have a old oak tree that’s half dead, can’t be cut down because it’s “protected” and it’s destroying my foundation and driveway. But the next hurricane will likely topple the tree on the road and it’s their problem then since the area it’s on is “city property” so yeah you’re luck you can have a garden. I really wanted to put one in the front yard then again the tree will kill it all anyway.

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            I am only lucky in my front yard. My back yard has 3 very large trees shading it. I would never cut them down but did find out pawpaws love shade and started down a rabbit hole of what else can I do back here.

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              Ironically If I put up a sizeable panel on the ground, it would probably save power simply by shielding the windows from the heat of the sun. One put up like a canopy would be amazing as well.

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            HOAs are probably okay for condos where the property is shared. Other than that I agree. Also they are rooted in racism so I harshly judge people in single family suburbs defending them.

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    Yeah that’s a no-go. The lawn extension must be kept less than 12" tall under city ordinance, and you need a license if you’re going to sell or give away those vegetables…

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      I was worried about this and called the city/township and turns out, as long as it’s cultivated, my plants can be as tall as I want!

      I can’t make a fence with trelliseseses though. They were very adamant about that.

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          Maybe! Just as long as it’s NOT A FENCE. I could call them again, but I think the idea of a trellis maze would upset them, and then I’d be behind the making of a new law lol.

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      you need a license if you’re going to sell or give away those vegetables

      Wait what?

      Does come with a cost?

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          Something something taking potential profits from major chain grocery stores, and we can’t have that.

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            Well there is that but they also have to go through the same beruacracy (they can just afford the red tape anyways plus lobbying to convert those nice residentials to being strip malls)

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              What bureaucracy? It’s vegetables in a garden. Pick them, wash them, eat them. This isn’t commercial farming where you’re using pesticides, tractors, desiel emissions, manure… It’s a garden on the corner of someone’s house.

              These people likely aren’t selling their stock to a global market, but rather letting their neighbours take something for dinner.

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      Front yards are for block parties but nowadays everyone just hates everyone so they go home and close the shades./jk

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    Either that is the ugliest home design or this is AI generated nonsense. Those buildings make no sense.

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    Y’all’s interpretation of anarchy is not good in this thread. Has anybody read the theory!?

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      They mean like this:

      But, a lot of neighborhoods don’t have them:

      I specifically bought in a neighborhood with sidewalks, because kids. But, as GenX I didn’t anticipate that GenZ would be the first generation that didn’t play outside all summer like we used to.

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        This drives me nuts, I know sidewalks are an extra cost. But I’d happily pay a portion to get some put in around us.

        I don’t live in an HOA, but I swear all the surrounding neighborhoods just don’t want them to keep the “riff raff” out. Still I ride bikes with my kid in the mega HOA neighborhood across the street, a lot flatter. Have to ride in the storm gutter if a car comes by.

        They are building another mega HOA housing development next to the current one, houses at double the price. They certainly won’t have sidewalks because it’s targeting 60+. No restricted by age, but by money. They’ll probably put a gate on it too.

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        I don’t know, My nieces are in VR or on their phones alot, but outside is still on equal footing. And they are meeting other kids out there.

        I think for people that can sustain their social needs with indirect relationships, maybe. But anyone that needs in-person socializing, they are gonna go get it. They don’t go outside as much extra during the school year, but they spend the majority of summer break out there.

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        GenZ would be the first generation that didn’t play outside all summer like we used to.

        Idk where you live but going outside in August is absolutely brutal down in Texas. All the kids go out in Fall and Winter, when the weather is much more bearable. You’ll have the running trails packed shoulder-to-shoulder for half a mile as soon as temperatures get under 90. But not a degree before.

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      Walk up the driveway, than under the wooden pergola at a 90 degree angle, than it turns to the house.

      Driveways are parts of sidewalks, don’t need a seperate one if the driveway is wide enough to walk past the cars.

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    Disgusting! I hope to never live to see such horrific living conditions in MY America /S

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    Give it three weeks of good sun and enough rain, and all those plants will be very happy, twice the size, and unruly as it comes. Much more “anarchy” than these neat rows.

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      I prefer to believe there are no cars and so no need to build a separate walkway. That shiny thing in the background is a cardboard cutout.