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alessandro@lemmy.ca to PC Gaming@lemmy.caEnglish · 1 day ago

Both Microsoft and Sony say they're under no obligation to pass tariff refunds on to customers

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Both Microsoft and Sony say they're under no obligation to pass tariff refunds on to customers

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alessandro@lemmy.ca to PC Gaming@lemmy.caEnglish · 1 day ago
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Microsoft and Sony argue no obligation to pass on tariff refunds, file to dismiss consumer lawsuits
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  • Caveman@lemmy.world
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    And that’s a surprise to… absolutely no one

  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    This entire scheme was a combination of market manipulation along with a universal price hike. A lot of very rich people got a lot richer. They got to engage in insider trading while massively increasing prices while pretending they had no choice.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    TBF, I’m not getting one from Linux, either.

  • RadiallyAxiomatic@lemmy.ca
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    If the government wanted the people to have it they could have stipulated that or, better yet, given it directly to the people. You need a complicit government for ‘privatized profit; socialized loses’

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    No one could have possibly anticipated this

    • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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      *no one

      • db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Fixed, thx

  • racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Yes, that’s correct, they are under no obligation. Obviously. It would be nice if they did that, but there is obviously no obligation.

  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    why?

    because fuck you. that’s why.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    They must just need more time to do the right thing naturally without being legally obligated?

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      Self regulation and the free* markets in action

  • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    And they’re not.

    And you’re not obligated to buy their products

    • St.Elsewhere@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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      Is piracy a thing on modern consoles?

      • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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        Look into the bounty on a PS5 firmware crack.

        • St.Elsewhere@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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          15k seems like a nice sum. I’m guessing it’s pretty locked down if a few months’ pay hasn’t led to anything

          • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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            Or it could be an attempt to drive the sum up since Sony pay for bugs found. That said, these things take time to find too.

      • BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca
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        Use emulation. Can’t play the latest, but there’s no shortage

        • St.Elsewhere@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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          I figured. DS had great piracy, which is where my burgeoning hope was pulled from.

    • myyass@lemmy.world
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      And I don’t. Those 800 games that I haven’t touched aren’t going to play themselves.

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      Neither one sussists on consumer products lol

  • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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    Sony already don’t want me to buy their games, so at least they’ve ensured they don’t owe me a refund.

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      You literally can’t buy a game from them. They argued as much in court yesterday.

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    Just to highlight the good actors too:

    For one thing, Arctic announced a price rollback after securing its refund, saying this will continue until “every single dollar Arctic received […] has been paid back to our customers.”

    Panic, maker of the Playdate handheld, has taken a bolder stance, offering refunds to those who bought its console and were charged extra for its tariffs. Company co-founder Cabel Sasser said last month, “It’s just not our money to keep.”

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      Playdate handheld

      That thing is so hilariously overpriced in the first place, that a few bucks don’t make any difference neither to the seller, nor the consumer.

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    And we have no obligation to buy their products. Bodycott is the only language companies understand

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    Not surprising considering most companies have no plans to refund the consumer for the tariff costs they passed on because there’s no regulation forcing them to do so.

    • Willy@sh.itjust.works
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      did most companies pass it on though? some didnt and in those cases why should they?

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        Sigh…

        https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2025/06/are-businesses-absorbing-the-tariffs-or-passing-them-on-to-their-customers/

        And did you have a point on the cases of companies that didn’t? The answer to that is blatantly obvious and not that deep.

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    Guess I’ll continue pirating their shit.

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    I can’t really blame them. I wouldn’t expect a check in the mail from Starbucks because of their coffee bean tariffs were refunded.

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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      Starbucks doesn’t require you to have a verified identity, contact information, and credit card on file to buy beans. The companies in question could do this with the click of a button.

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        Okay then I don’t expect my local deli to give me a 50 cent refund on a turkey sandwitch. Don’t be pedantic.

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