• PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    7 hours ago

    I didn’t know any of this. Amazing. I usually just look at /proc/net/ for routes and bonding config etc.

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    Okay, this is legitimately cool as heck. This finally helps me wrap my head around the “everything is a file” concept in Linux. Of course it can just copy the executable to memory for later reference. That’s how the system would not completely have a meltdown when you do live updates.

    Excellent share!

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      I bet this is done with inodes. Deleted files aren’t truely deleted until nothing has it open and its inode gets dropped. Like ARC for files.

      You can also do interesting things like overwrite a “file” (as in a specific filesystem path) with new contents while keeping anything that already has the file open on the old contents by unlinking the old inode to the path and writing the new contents under a new inode. I believe mv does this. The kind of lesser known feature that probably strikes a good balance between preventing super annoying silent errors/corruption and causing them.

      Relevant Kevin Fang video

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        Thanks for explaining, I was wondering about that.

        Wait, is that why renaming or moving files on android takes forever?

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          No, that’s because Android. It’s also overlaying all filesystems to enforce stupid rules, like no files named “CON” and no files named the same in a different case (like in DOS).

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      It’s a bit more interesting than that…

      Linux, unlike Windows, will let you delete a file that is actively in use. It removes the reference on the file system but the contents of the file won’t be deleted until all file pointers to it close. In fact it will still be seen as taking up disk space until it’s garbage collected (deleting a large file that’s in use can be frustrating).

      So the file is actually still available to that running process. If you replace it with a new executable and run that then you get the new version.

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    10 hours ago

    Did you know openBSD does not have this folder? I think the BSD’s do not use /proc. I do not know why though.

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      That raises the question of how their ps, top, lsof and such work, since afaik in Linux they read from /proc.

      P.S. Looks like BSDs tug at the kernel via syscalls, namely sysctl and also the ‘kvm interface’ in the case of MacOS (not sure what ‘kvm’ thing is meant here). Seems vaguely reasonable, since procfs also queries the kernel for the info, so about the same resources would be used, perhaps even with the overhead of filesystem traversal and string-numbers conversion.

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    10 hours ago

    Damn, I really could have made a lot of use of this over the last 20+ years… Thanks for sharing!

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    13 hours ago

    Do you know how to build portable executables?

    configure --prefix=/proc/self/pwd
    

    It even works in .so files and libtool.

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        The executable will search for .so files not inside predefined paths like /usr/lib but inside it’s current directory. You may theoretically put . as an argument to configure, but it converts that into an absolute path, snd libtool and linker fail when encountering relative paths inside shared library dependencies.

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    Great tips! Although if i may 🤓 just a little for the top right, it works because what you deleted isn’t the binary, it’s the pointer that points to the binary’s location. The data is still exactly as it was before “deletion”; the symlink is simply a copy of the original pointer’s info; and I’m speculating that the existence of any pointer prevents the system from recycling those addressed bits.