• southernbrewer@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Everything on this list is still being taught to my kids (NZ). Phonics is still the best way to teach reading. Every new stupid fad dies out and they come back to phonics.

    I’m pretty surprised they’re learning cursive though. Wtf

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      I believe cursive is thaught because the hand makes repetitive movements that way, not because of how it looks. But since we barely need to write anything lengthy anymore i guess efficient writing isn’t worth that much more than inefficient writing.

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      25 days ago

      I don’t think making writing beautiful and celebrating penmanship is the worst thing. I’m all for cursive

    • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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      Phonics would make sense in a language that’s phonetic. But English is not phonetic, so teaching them it as if it is, and then teaching them “tricky” words and that all words are fake, and making them read nonsense words to test their phonics, is stupid

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        From a semantic perspective that argument is badly framed but I can intuit your point using my foundational skills of reasoning. In the same fashion, the reason I can guess what words like phantasmagoria and phosphaturia sound like and tell them apart is because the written English language is still representational enough that you can develop common sense abilities and learn additional rules and exceptions from there. Every single word in your comment follows a rule pattern that another common word follows.

        Cueing is poorly taught; the whole language approach makes no sense on its own. Why would you remove the tools for assembling the pronunciation of a multisyllabic word and instead suggest guessing at it? You wouldn’t. Nobody studying this is suggesting you throw phonics out in entirety, even the cueing advocates that don’t believe in dyslexia who sound suspiciously like they have dyslexia.

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        Except that the alternative method, the “whole word” approach, seems to have way worse outcomes.

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      Far less open flames around your average household. Less fireplaces being used, electricity is far more available so it replaced candles, you don’t see wood stoves pretty much ever anymore, and even gas stoves are being replaced with electric ones nowadays.

      Fire used to be far more prevalent. Prometheus would be sad, at least until he discovers the fire emoji and tinder.

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    As someone who had to learn cursive in school, I dropped that shit literally as soon as they said we didn’t need to use it anymore. Good riddance.

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      I have seen the handwriting of some people who complain about “schools not teaching cursive anymore”. I have news to them: I know how to read cursive, their cursive is just crap.

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          The worst part is that it feels like different people were taught different forms of cursive. Lowercase r, f, q, and z is where I noticed most people just making stuff up half of the time

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      Yeah, I learned cursive too, but I think it’s weird to see anyone younger than boomers using it.

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    Not only cursive and calligraphy, but we rode our bicycles until we were lost and without a mobile phone.

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    I learned cursive and then never used it again. I learned it to sign my name, but you don’t even need cursive to sign your name because everybody’s signature is just a big scribble anyway.

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    As a 56 year old - I write cursive fine enough to barely get what the letters are. My signature however is exactly the same way - mostly rushed and random. Hoping for that someday challenge.

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    fuck cursive, bullshit ass writing method.

    A Day Later: Some ableist ass fuckin discourse goin’ on here now…

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    25 days ago

    You were never tutored in analogue calculations. Analog doesn’t mean “everything that’s not digital”.