I think that before any apologies can be made, the next president would have to send trump & his entire administration to trial, convict them, and sentence them.
Also, they would have to work on passing legislation to make sure another trump never happens (remove the loopholes, the excess of power to the executive branch, the corruption in all three branches, citizens united, the heritage foundation).
…and then do an apology tour. Apologies would mean nothing, if four years later we’re in a position to do the same bullshit again. We need to prove that we can be stable, reliable, and resilient. Make sure our house is in order. THAT’S the apology the world needs to hear.
The oligarchy will never charge one of their own, I’ve been saying this since before Biden went in and we saw first hand they will do nothing to hold him accountable. This is what happens when they all answer to the same people
Your comment prompted my memory of what I think Benjamin Franklin said when the country was born. In response to the question of what type of government they’d designed, he said something to the effect of: “A democracy, if you can keep it.”
Even then, they were mindful of some of the weaknesses of their grand design
Yes, it’s going to take a generation to undo all the harm this administration has caused.
The President, the Senate, the Supreme “Court” and a large contingent of their wealthy and elite went apeshit.
No one will trust the US for at least a lifetime, if they can get their act together before completely self immolating.
It won’t be enough. Even if they do one, our allies know ~80 Million US Citizens will turn on them at the drop of a hat, the second a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, conman tells them our allies are “bad” and “stealing from us”. So our allies are separating themselves from us. They are getting rid of our technology, goods, and services. That will cost the US Trillions in losses, from Visa/Mastercard alone, but it also costs us Safety. Because those allies won’t be as willing to share Intel with us. Many have already cut off Intel sharing. And that’s the way we stay safest.
If we elect a non-Trump-aligned president, there really is no point to do an apology tour. Obama did it because we could pass the Bush, fils presidency, as a one-off. But after electing Bush twice and Trump twice the world knows the United States can never be trusted again.
Fool me four times, won’t get fooled again.
No.
Apologies won’t do shit since Americans have shown they’re absolute morons by electing Trump twice and Republicans constantly. The American people have shown that America is too stupid to govern.
If by some miracle progressives and non-republican Democrats get elected into majority power they’d be better off simply passing legislation to ensure Republicans can never have power again if they actually want to get the world to trust America again.
People still assuming this will just magically over after the next election
Reading the comments here, It seems my disabled, poor ass is never going to get to leave the USA, even if I had the means. I voted against the orange regime and it’s similar evils over the years… And yet, I will be condemned to the mass grave that is soon to be America. I guess know that I genuinely tried my best, from talking relatives on how the orange was evil, to helping people vote for candidates that aligned more with the world’s values, and protested even if it wasn’t on the street, it was in my own way… Because I’m disabled in the USA… and it sometimes difficult to even survive, let alone topple an evil regime. But if I am to be lumped in with rest of the pigs if the US… I guess. When you find my body, you’ll wonder how a human got in the pig mass grave.
I don’t know that it would help. The longer Americans keep Trump in power, the more their former allies realize that it isn’t “just Trump”.
I used to be a pacifist. This goddamn regime killed that pretty damn quick.
Do you think the US needs to apologize just because of Trump?
Every History book is full of things that the US should already been accountable for
Oh I could give a laundry list of shit that America needs to apologize for.
The difference is, no one is placating us anymore… or no one should.
And yet they did not.
Yes, but
It will never go back. The new US will need to learn to be one of many at the table. A powerful one by all means, but one of many nevertheless. The ability to dictate terms to others is gone, all of the leverage has been used, for little gain, and the trust isn’t there anymore. Everyone has hedged against the US, decoupled, and persued other arrangements.
Europe is gone from the empire and will demand massive concessions to let the US even near its strategic policy. Concessions the US can probably can not pay. Remember, the US started a war with the Russians on Europe’s doorstep and then not only abandoned it’s allies, it threatened to invade from the other side (and is still doing so). Europe deployed against the US. The US is openly hostile - an enemy of Europe. There’s no coming back from that.
For better or worse the US is on its own now. Allies are theoretical at best. On its own the US is a western hemisphere regional power. The global power it enjoyed came from the alliances and it was paid for by the economic interdependence of the alliance system. That system is over.
The dominance of the USD is done, that was based on trust, trade is no longer conducted in USD exclusively and currencies no longer route through USD. With the reserve currency status destroyed, the US will have to learn to pay it’s bills like everyone else, from productive work. No more printing money to pay debts on printed money.
Without those things trillion dollar military budgets are out of the question, global force projection becomes impossible. Even enforcing Monroe is probably impossible, the Chinese and Europe are already making inroads in south America and as those investments increase so will the need to protect those.
So apologies are necessary for a reset of relations, yes. But those new relations will look very different from what we have known. It’s a multi polar world now and the US sphere of influence is shrinking to just north America, and even there, the other two countries are not on board and are moving towards EU.
The future is one of US decline and it’s up to Americans how they want to navigate it. Learn to live with the others or fight a losing battle against everyone. Or end the world.
No. Just fucking fix everything.
They won’t.
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I don’t think it will work. Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize for not being W Bush and then the USA elected Trump twice.
Fix America for good. We are watching. A personal apology tour will not be needed, as long as this president will fix what is broken, inside the US and in international relations.
