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    23 days ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised if China might also be supplying weapons to Cuba.

    What’s up with the down votes? I’m hoping they’re armed to the teeth if the US tries any shit.

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      To weaken/further humiliate the US? To market their green technology? For humanitarian purposes?

      Take your pick, it’s some combination of the three.

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        It’s definitely all three, but I just want to point out that Cuba I believe has more doctors per capita than any other country and sends medical aid all over the world. They developed their own Covid vaccine because they had no access to the others thanks to the blockade. It’s not like they have nothing to offer.

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      money or resources i guess ? thats how it usually goes but im not an expert

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    That’s based. But didn’t Cuba basically rescind their Communist policies recently because of a lack of international support and the US sanctions having crippled the country

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            I asked and received. Thank you.

            Edit:

            Generalised subsidies that benefit the relatively affluent and the poor alike are to be replaced by assistance targeted at the most vulnerable – retirees, families with chronically ill children, and impoverished neighbourhoods – but the state’s responsibility for healthcare, education, social security and welfare is unchanged.

            This is the main thing in my mind.

            The reforms unquestionably carry risks. A property market, private banks, large firms and remittance-funded investment will tend to generate a propertied stratum, and in the Cuban case along existing fault lines of access to hard currency and family abroad. None of this should be waved away; it is the real cost of the policy. But the wager is a considered one, and it rests on a proposition that China has spent nearly 50 years testing: that a socialist state which keeps political power, public ownership of the commanding heights and the levers of planning and redistribution in its own hands can use markets and foreign capital to develop without being captured by them.

            I’m unclear on property reforms. Are large swaths of land open to private ownership?

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          It had to be a BadEmpanada video of course. His entire channel is dedicated to attacking other leftists for not being perfect platonic ideals of communism as he understands it. He would accuse Karl Marx of being a liberal if he lived in the same time period.

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            BE should stick to the one thing he can do well, making fun of Zionists. But I guess the holy algorithm rewards the other things better.

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              BE is a twitter-poisoned ultraleft who denounces every socialist country : China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. He has no materialist understanding of socialism and isn’t to be trusted on any topic just because he correctly opposes Israel.

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                Crazy guy he doesn’t like Graham Platner with Nazi tattooos murdering kids and DSA members who compromise with genocide.

                And he doesn’t think every single thing China or Russia does is good and thinks people should have more international solidarity. Craziest guy on the planet. Absolutely insane.

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                  Being anti-Israel and not apologizing for murderous imperialists like Platner is an extremely low bar (one that much of the compatible left in imperialist countries don’t clear, but still). I don’t recommend getting your politics from youtubers or streamers, but from actual Marxists / MLs. There are plenty out there doing great work, writing and organizing, who don’t spend all their time getting in pointless fights on twitter, and denouncing every socialist project.

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            Everyone agrees it’s bad but people are very upset BE points out that the Soviet Union had high levels of international solidarity which gave Cuba a necessary lifeline against US imperialism, but Russia and China are letting the US dictate the terms on Cuba now.

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              Russia has been capitalist for a long time, but not imperialist. Cuba is grown up now. Both are helping. What are they supposed to do, say: do this and that? Go in and take over and run things? Cuba is sovereign. This is a Cuban issue for Cuban people.

              Yes what the US does, did is slimey af. And if China or Russia went in telling Cuba they have to do this or that to get assistance, that’s… imperialism.

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                What are they supposed to do, say: do this and that?

                Pass through the US imposed oil blockade and tell the US to go shove it instead of abiding by US imperialist terms.

                Will it come at costs to their own countries? Certainly. But if everyone just thinks of themselves the US will divide and conquer the whole world with ease. First was Venezuela. Now Cuba.

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                  Pass through the US imposed oil blockade and tell the US to go shove it instead of abiding by US imperialist terms.

                  Do you imagine Cuba has no say in this? Has it occurred to you maybe Cuba doesn’t want this?

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        Wow I just listened to a two hour podcast of three people doing ZERO mentions of how China and Russia are dropping the ball on international solidarity because apparently that doesn’t exist. Apparently the USSR disappeared and now Cuba just has nobody to count on well gee that sucks. Gotta implement capitalist policies now!

        Am I glad I don’t listen to these Grahan Platner fans often. BadEmpanada doesn’t care about pissing off some of his audience. These guys are farming.

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          Am I glad I don’t listen to these Grahan Platner fans often

          Is this your only insult? Are you stupid? Do you think an iraqi Communist has any positive things to say about Graham fucking Platner?

          Log off, lmao

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            Yugopnik has another podcast with massive Graham Platner fan MikeFromPA in which they conveniently never talk about Graham Platner.

            Oh how nice of everyone to dance around the Nazi bar. Wouldn’t want to rock the Nazi boat!

            Guess who did call it out.

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          From here:


          Gawronski: But China, even if it’s remained socialist politically, is trying to move away from socialism economically. On the other hand, Cuba still seems to be solidly socialist. Isn’t it difficult to be the only socialist country when everything around you is changing?

          Castro: I think China is a socialist country, and Vietnam is a socialist country as well. And they insist that they’ve introduced all the necessary reforms, precisely to stimulate development and to continue advancing towards the objectives of socialism. There are no chemically pure regimes or systems.

          In Cuba, for example, we have many forms of private property. We have tens of thousands of landowners who own, in some cases, up to 45 hectares; in Europe they would be considered latifundistas. Practically all Cubans own their own homes and, what’s more, we are more than open to foreign investment. But none of this detracts from Cuba’s socialist character.

          What’s certain is that we will never make the mistake of destroying the country to make something new. We will not make the mistake of plunging our country into chaos, into anarchy, to solve the problems we have, because that would be the only way to never solve them.