He added that physical and psychological damages “inflicted on each individual of the Iranian nation in the 2nd and 3rd imposed wars, from child killings and war crimes in Minab and Lamerd to attacks on medical centres, is each a legal file that must be pursued in both domestic and international courts.”

He further stated that from the “murder” of newborns and the elderly to the assassination of his father and predecessor, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, “each is a file among thousands of major legal cases that must be earnestly pursued in domestic and international courts”.

“What is definite is that these criminals must be seized by the collar and brought to justice for their criminal deeds,” he asserted.

Never in my life could I have expected to agree with the Iranian government. But, on this specific issue? I do. There needs to be accountability for this.

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          No women was beheaded for driving a car. It was the saudis who used to prohibit women from driving and beheading was not the punishement. Those beheafing non muslim is isis not Iran. Fuck off with your islamophobia.

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            A woman singer Parastoo Ahmadi was just sentenced to 74 lashes for singing without hijab.

            You guys act like this is a game and I’m so tired of it. I’m a woman. A woman is going to be publicly brutalized for singing in public without religious garb. It’s incredibly messed up that you guys can do whatever you want and hide behind Islamophobia.

            Do you actually think that womens’ rights in Iran are upheld as they should be?

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              The user said women get beheaded for driving a car in Iran which was false. It conflated saudi arabia with isis with iran which is islamophobic. Talking about women how many women was killed and raped with the west support in palestine, sudan ,libya etc?

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                The difference between you and me is that I’m talking about the oppression of women because I care and because it matters, and you are using it as a political talking point.

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                  Israel kill women daily with the west support. You are a hypocrite with selective outrage . I never said it is ok to punish people for not respecting an extreme view of a religion, i simply reject spreaing lies like women getting killed for driving in Iran

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                  Aren’t israelis jews. Does every jew because a colonizer stealing land and opressing palestinians? If i believed that i would be antisemetic because i generalized jews. Doing the same to muslim is islamophobic

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                  Think of it like this…

                  The Catholic Church just agreed to pay $700M for child sexual abuse.

                  Are you going to attack the local Methodist minister because “Hey, they’re all Christian…”?

                  It doesn’t work that way.

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          they behead people for not being their faith

          What are you referring to? Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians have official representation in the state.

          women not covering their entire bodies

          I haven’t heard of this practice in Iran, even less of the government forcing it on women, and clearly not beheading them for it.

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            They do detain, torture, and kill women who do not cover their hair completely and dress “modestly.” This is well-established fact.

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              I remember reading that women in Iran could get away with wearing the veil in a way that partly reveal their hair. I don’t know if this has changed with the recent events. All the stories of persecution I’ve read seemed to be about women who had their hair completely free.

              But in any case, this is beyond the point I’ve made. Even if women in Iran have to completly cover their hair, it’s not a full body cover like we see in Afghanistan.

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                Yeah it’s not Afghanistan but in Iran it’s subject to a lot of interpretation on the part of the police and if they want to harass you they can take you in for the tiniest slip of your head covering. It’s still horrible even if not as draconian.

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          They are a horrendous society and government, but a clock with dead batteries is still right twice a day.

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            To judge an entire society as “horrendous” just isn’t acceptable. That is where the liberals intersect with the fascists. It’s a society, people are born, grow up, live, learn, love, play, fall in love, grow, marry, make babies and raise them, grow old. 92 Million people. Their society has problems.

            Who are you to judge them as horrendous? Who are you to aid and give cause to genocidal invaders to destroy their country, their livelihoods, their progress? To bomb them back in time? They were making progress in many areas.

            It’s not just Trump who is responsible, it’s everyone who is pushing these overly broad talking points.

            Do you think meddling and interfering through NGOs has positive effects on their “freedoms”? Or negative effects? Just leave them alone, they can sort it out themselves.

            All of this is imperialism because there are many countries like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan who is a geopolitical allies. We all need to demand less interference in other countries from our own governments and our allies.

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            Sure although the Israelis are significantly worse. Israel is actively wiping out entire ethnicities based on racist supremacy, lies, rape and murder, to steal land. Israel also threatens unrelated countries with their “samson option” nuclear doctrine. Iran doesnt even come close to that level of evil. Not even in the same league.

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    Before blaming the current Iranian government of killing its own people, one should remember it was the US made it possible for them to come to power. By fomenting unrest against a democratically elected government which was as western as possible.

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    Fair. But let’s not forget all of their own people they killed. Trump, Netanyahu and Khamenei should all share a cell in The Hague.

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      let’s not forget all of their own people they killed

      It was crazy to hear US news reporting “Iran has killed 30k, 50k, 90k of their own people!!” based on unnamed sources and Facebook memes. Meanwhile, the journalists on the ground in Gaza reporting on the genocide were systematically assassinated by the Israeli government, while hospitals were obliterated, and communications severed. And the US national media response became “information is unreliable so we’re just not going to say a number anymore”.

      I wonder how many Iranians killed during the current US/Israel air raids and infrastructure annihilation will be retroactively counted as “The Iranians killed themselves”, once American journalists finally make their way back into the country.

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        The Americans think that their propaganda still works. fuck that disgusting rogue empire.

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          It’s definitely losing it’s grip. But genuinely frightening to see how many people will still fall back on “Yeah, but I’m glad they’re killing the correct kind of foreigners this time”. As soon as Democrats retake the White House, your head is going to spin to see how many people enthusiastically support more bombings.

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            More accurately, you’ll notice all the currently anti- people oddly quiet, none of the news reporting it (outside of extreme edge cases), and a relatively few people loudly and enthusiastically supporting it.

            Most “don’t” support it, but keep their heads down when it’s a D doing it, and scream endlessly when it’s an R doing the same exact thing.

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              but keep their heads down when it’s a D doing it, and scream endlessly when it’s an R doing the same exact thing.

              And vice versa. The US is really showing the flaws of a two party system right now.

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        You don’t need to wonder how many Iranians died during the war, because Iran keeps very good track of these. However, they try their best to hide how many were killed of their own citizens during January, and there there will probably never be an accurate figure for that, only estimates.

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          Iran keeps very good track of these. However, they try their best to hide how many were killed

          Where did you get this information?

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              I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I have a friend in Iran, his cousin died in the protests and his body was tagged in the 10,000’s, and he was far from the last to die. Most Iranians hate their, in my friends words, fascist and theocratic government and they absolutely did massacre the protesters.

              All of you morons saying its just western propaganda without speaking to actual Iranians need to shut the fuck up. You trying to deny what happened to the protesters is just like fucking zionists trying to deny what is happening to Palestine.

              Does that make the war against them just? Fuck no, America invaded to create a smokescreen for the Epstein files. But you trying to wave away what happened to the protesters is spitting on their graves.

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                Maybe he is a pahlavist who lied to you? 15k in a day that’s hitlerian numbers, only idiots believe the 30k in 2 days numbers

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                I have a friend in Iran, his cousin died in the protests

                Channel 14’s Tamir Morag says arms from ‘foreign actors’ let protesters kill hundreds of officers; Iranian FM: ‘Trump should now know exactly where to go to stop killings’

                I actually have a friend from elementary school who was killed by an Iraqi IED. Really sad, but also… he should have been going to college, not getting in shootouts with ex-Ba’athist insurgents on the other side of the planet.

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                Sure mate, I believe you. Also, I’m the queen of Sheeba, trust me. (On the internet anybody can “be” whatever they want)

                That said, I misread the comments I replied to as being about the number of dead in the war, which doesn’t make sense for Iran to hide hence my reply.

                If the poster I replied to meant it as “have you really thought about where the ‘information’ you think you know originally came from”, then they made a good point - for Iran, just like for China, Iraq before that and countless others, the information space is so heavilly polluted at all levels (from Social Media to traditional Press) by American propaganda that it’s hard to really know the extent of what has and is happening, unless one has direct connections inside Iran (which you claim to, but again for exactly the reason I gave about Propaganda, I can’t just directly trust “claims from random poster who for all I know might not even be a human” as being true).

                For example, for what happened to the Uyghurs in China the best and most trustworthy info that we have is indirect and comes from Chinese Official numbers: the fall in birth rates in the region they’re the majority by comparison with other Chinese regions, which doesn’t tell us exactly what’s happened by does tell us that something bad enough happened that people refrained from having children there from 2017 and for a number of years.

                Unfortunatly the slimy and excessive propaganda pushed out by America and American actors means that the information space in the West is very poluted so you can’t just take at face values any claims about bad things done by states which the US sees as adversaries.

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          Like in the Lahaina Fire on Maui, right. They counted the people they can identify in the death toll. But the homeless are left out of the official count of the dead. That town was full of homeless camps in the bushes. The real number of dead could be 10x the official number.

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      Also every american presidents and every american politicians who allowed weapons and aid to israel , all the western politicians who did the same , the arab traitors collaborating with the enemy and every single isrseli politicians and prime ministers.

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    Afaik neither Iran, not Israel, nor the US recognize the ICC nor the ICJ. Their leaders should stop bitching about who committed what war crime and just go to jail already.

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      Yeah, but most of the World does, which means that the American and Israeli leadership shouldn’t be able to travel to most of the World or even fly over most of the World without getting arrested (if those countries actually properly abided by that treaty, which many don’t).

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    Wouldn’t it be funny if Iran joined the ICC? They won’t otherwise they’d pretty quickly have to answer for all the executions they are perpetrating, but still, it would be funny.

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    Agreed. Someone(s) should be made to answer for all that murder. Laws and common decency need to matter again.

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    It’s true, but Iran leadership has been commiting crimes against humanity themselves as well.

    It’s crazy though that I instantly agreed with the sentiment when I read it…

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    We will happily give you the convicted felon that happens to be our president and his entire cabinet to you. Please save us.

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    The regime that slaughters and oppresses its own people so heavily is going to have a tough time here, even though the US is guilty of what they accuse.

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      Just because the other guy does it at home doesn’t mean its okay to do it to his people too. Its not an invitation.

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    Guys calm down. It’s cute when we do it. It’s only a problem when you do it because of branding.

    You want fuck with us? Prop up an extremist Christian sect in your country and publicize the atrocities they commit. Then compare them to the US.

    Bwhahaha

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    The problem is; all that baby murder and hospital 'splodin was legal.

    That said; Iran does kind of have the leverage to change that, and I really hope they’re willing to suffer through it for us.

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    im in usa we did not do this it was trump put the and the people that voted for him.

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      There is an entire precedent as well of people saying “I was just following orders”, that could be looked into.

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      It’s a grave mistake to blame this all on Trump. Our foreign policy has always been evil, and will continue to be so.